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Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« on: September 18, 2016, 10:30:18 PM »

I read a few other posts... one where someone had a bent stand, and the bike was practically falling over. I am a shorter rider, and the lean angle is just a little steep for me. Obviously I get it off the stand to ride, but instead of lowering the front I was thinking about putting that 1" longer Performance Machine jiffy stand. Has anyone tried this, and had any luck?
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 10:41:17 PM »

Is this longer kick stand intended for a bike with a stock wheel size or is its market bikes that have gone to larger wheels?  Would just want to make very very sure you're not standing things too upright.  Depending on angle of side of the road/lot/whatever you sometimes  might park against those things can sneak up on you.  Not every parking surface is flat.
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 10:58:43 PM »


Be very careful changing the length of the stand.  The bike leans on the stand for a very good reason, to prevent the bike from high siding in a gust of wind, or from a slight bump, or as Twolane mentioned if you park where the surface slopes from left to right.  Don't forget, your bike is already lowered an inch in the rear from the factory.

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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 11:24:51 PM »

I have just the opposite problem.  I cannot get the kickstand up, when I center the bike the kickstand is still on the ground. I have to move the steering to the left and tilt the bike right to get the stand up.  I do have adjustable air shocks on the back, but still does not help. I have a 2011 CVO SG.  My wife have a 2015 CVO SG, and when I center the bike her kickstand is off the ground about 1/2 inch.  I just ordered a Pingel -2.  It should help.

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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 12:02:42 AM »

Thanks  for the advise guys. My wife had a sportster that we lowered so much, it was practically vertical on the stand. Worried me all of the time.

Ill try to find a 1" thick block and see what the outcome is.


Dig-- Did you lower your bikes?  Sounds like my wife's old Sporty.
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 12:05:08 AM »

The Harley Jiffy stand is not particularly elegant but it works very well. I would reconsider replacing it. We had a similar problem on the 2009 bikes with lowered suspension. It turned out that they needed a shim placed between the Jiffy stand and the mount.  It actually became a recall item on the 2009 Screamin Eagle Road Glide. If you search here you can probably find old threads. You could also go talk to your parts guy at your local dealership and he should be able to find a shim to help you.
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 08:59:51 AM »

Originally the bike was lowered 3/4 in the rear with progressive shocks and in the front with lowering Progressive springs.  I then put on Arnott air shocks and can raise and lower at will.  Last year I put the front back with Progressive mono tubes.  So bike can be put at spec levels.  I also added the jiffy stand extender, but on my last trip I realized I put it in the wrong place.  The extender should be as low as you can get it.  I was going to fix but ordered the -2 jiffy stand from Pingel.  I hate being on tip toes when trying to get the stand up, he bike feels so unstable. 

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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 06:26:12 PM »

as jerry stated a gust of wind on a other than flat grade...never thought it would send a bike over ...but watched it happen over the labor day weekend, it was a Rocker it hit a soft tail and it just missed the next one in line. i helped pick them up and the owner was no where to be found, did talk to him later that day...my point be careful with your changes 
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 11:01:16 PM »

I'm confused.  Which way is the bike falling?  I can understand if the bike is straight up a gust of wind will knock it over to the right.  Is that what you are talking about.
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 03:56:44 PM »

That is what I seen...fell to the right
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 08:10:51 PM »

Got it!!  Thanks, my bike is that way, I have a hard time putting the kickstand down and when I do it is almost straight up.  Changing it to a lower kickstand,  should help.

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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 11:29:01 PM »

 :soapbox:      It's not the length or height of the kickstand which is important.  Please see my reply #5, above.  Most of the H-D bikes use the same jiffy stand.  The differences are the angle at which the stand attaches to the bike.  That (and the height of the frame) controls how much the bike leans on the stand.  You can replace the stand for a couple hundred bucks or more or replace the shim between the stand and the frame for a fraction of the cost.  That's how H-D is able to use the same stand on different models.     :coolblue:
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2016, 07:03:41 PM »

Get air ride!
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2016, 07:41:58 PM »

Don't know if this affects the lean angle at all but I just installed the Kicker from EZ-Brake and like it a lot... 

https://www.e-zbrake.com/other.php
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Re: Disliking the lean angle on jiffy stand
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2016, 08:57:14 PM »

Why would an air ride make a difference?

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