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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2012, 08:08:29 PM »

I have a friend with a G2 126, how much am I giving up to him with this motor? Also what is the cost difference, never asked what he paid for the G2 126.

Zinister,

25-40 hp/tq is what you are giving up to the G2.   Most of the G2 126" motors I have seen have been mid 150-mid 160's  depending on cam/setup.

Get the heads done on the 124" Crate Motor and and you should be in the 140's give or take with throttlebody, exhaust, tune.     
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2012, 10:13:49 AM »

I just wanted to add some info I found out yesterday.
Called S&S, spoke with a tech guy. (Scott)
He told me the engine from Star is not from them, that is why it is not listed on there web site.
I found that interesting.
He also stated that the main kit may be from S&S, the cases where not.
Something to do with a deal with the MOCO.
He would not tell me more! :(

Some or most of you guys prob already know this, I however, did not.
Just wanted to post for the other people that may have thought it was a S&S engine.

This info does not not stop me from considering this engine, just nice info to have.

 I do like the 1 year warranty offered with the engine as the 120 has none.

I guess what I am saying is, not matter what engine you would choose, it's nice to have choices. ;D ;D

Anyone please correct me if I misstated anything.

Big Dave
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2012, 11:42:44 AM »

BigDave,

The cases are the Screamin Eagle Cases that S&S is using, so the motor will work in the 07 and up style twin cam motor.   S&S is also doing all the reman motors for Harley.   Guess it is all part of the deal they made.  You will also note that S&S has some bigger throttlebodies as well, but I did hear they require a core, haven't validated that yet.

If you are truly considering the 124" '07 up S&S motor "I" would go into with the mindset of 124/124 and if you get better great if you dont you wont be disappointed.

The 1 year warranty is pretty nice and in my experience S&S has been great to deal with.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2012, 01:30:47 PM »

BigDave,

The cases are the Screamin Eagle Cases that S&S is using, so the motor will work in the 07 and up style twin cam motor.   S&S is also doing all the reman motors for Harley.   Guess it is all part of the deal they made.  You will also note that S&S has some bigger throttlebodies as well, but I did hear they require a core, haven't validated that yet.

If you are truly considering the 124" '07 up S&S motor "I" would go into with the mindset of 124/124 and if you get better great if you dont you wont be disappointed.

The 1 year warranty is pretty nice and in my experience S&S has been great to deal with.

Thanks so much for the input.
I figured that tech couldn't tell me everything.
I am thinking about it, and at that price, why not.

I have used s&s parts in the past, and always with out problem.
So I do have faith in them.
124-124 should be more then enough to hall my fat butt around pretty good.

Big Dave






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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 01:32:16 PM »

If the S&S 124 was paid for out of pocket, I wonder if the "Extended Service Agreement" (if one had a few years left on that for example) would cover any future motor problems?
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 02:28:07 PM »

If the S&S 124 was paid for out of pocket, I wonder if the "Extended Service Agreement" (if one had a few years left on that for example) would cover any future motor problems?

There's no way the ESP is going to pay for a motor that has problems and is not a HD engine that came stock in the bike.  Regardless of who pays for the replacement engine.  It's not a stock engine by a long shot, and it's not made by HD.  The ESP only pays for stock components.  They have been known to "look the other way" if a person has done cams, pipes and a tune, though doing ANY motor work is risky with regards to future coverage.  Technically, the ESP is voided by doing any modifications whatsoever, if you read the contract.  Even if they did not void the entire agreement, the best you could hope for is replacement of the radio or other such things.  The entire drive train would definitely be excluded, including tranny, primary, clutch, etc.  They don't have to pay for any of that stuff if you simply put a trailer hitch on your bike.

That would be like me expecting them to pay for new Legend Air Shocks, or Traxxion AK-20 cartridges on my bike if they failed...ain't going to happen.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2012, 10:05:08 PM »

The S&S 124" crate engine does come with a 1 year S&S warranty
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2012, 01:16:03 PM »

The S&S 124 is very tempting..  The price is good and performance very good.... I'm not a fan of easy start cams though,,  wonder if they would special order them out?  
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2012, 02:55:41 PM »

Is the 126 faster reving then the 124? I did ask my buddy what he paid for his 126 and it was allot more than the 124 asking price. But he got one of the first ones out several years ago.

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2012, 04:07:23 PM »

Looks like the 126 will not fit in a 2012/13?
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2012, 05:16:15 PM »

You are correct about 126 only fitting in 06 and under frames.

My comment was concerning the bore/stroke ratio of the 126 vs 124.

The B2 heads on the 126 cause some modification to the exhaust and intake on the 126. But the SOB does run good!!

For the money and price I think my choice would be the 124 even without the new frame ('09 and later) consideration.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2012, 05:38:40 PM »

You are correct about 126 only fitting in 06 and under frames.

My comment was concerning the bore/stroke ratio of the 126 vs 124.

The B2 heads on the 126 cause some modification to the exhaust and intake on the 126. But the SOB does run good!!

For the money and price I think my choice would be the 124 even without the new frame ('09 and later) consideration.
What exhaust would you use? Currently have the Fat Catz which I do love but understand I would have to change to the Boarzilla with that motor for maximum performance. My brother in law runs the CFR's which sound absolutely amazing and look great but if I do this motor, looking for maximum performance.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2012, 07:46:05 PM »

I will be changing my boarzilla out on my 07 next summer for the Dragula 2 into 1. Performs better and is an awesome design.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2012, 08:35:19 PM »

Waiting to see the 66mm TB dyno run, is it coming anytime soon?
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2013, 10:20:25 AM »

The bike ran very well.  Update got soome messages on what was in the engine.

We replaced the stock triple valve springs with a set of bee hive springs, cleaned up the heads, and a .030 head gasket. T/B is the 66 MM and the S&S backing plate kit with larger filter. Tuner was a TTS , clutch was a bandit. 6.2 injectors.

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