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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2012, 11:56:55 AM »

I see some posts of guys waiting to get their newly modified motors Dyno'd until they get some miles on it.  Is that wiser than doing immediately?

Getting miles on a modified motor without remapping for the changes can be a disaster waiting to happen. Depending or your changes the fuel maps could be off and can be rich and or lean in different areas of throttle position and rpm ranges. If your builder has a base map for your application then it should be ok but its but to check out the AFR to be sure the mapping is close.

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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2012, 04:49:06 PM »

Might as well seat the rings on the dyno, too, while checking/getting things close enough to start with.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2012, 05:20:01 PM »

So my plan to have the dyno done when the builder is finished sounds like the right move.  Is there any benefit to having another dyno done once the motor is broken in?
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2012, 06:19:28 AM »

Usually you get a break in tune on the dyno.  Put miles on the motor and then return for the final fire breathing tune.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2012, 09:36:35 AM »

Usually you get a break in tune on the dyno.  Put miles on the motor and then return for the final fire breathing tune.

Is this the general consensus?  A second dyno after a break in period?
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2012, 08:05:00 PM »

Break-in tune.
500 miles.
Final tune.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2012, 05:41:04 AM »

The standard is for a break in tune, break in, then final tune.

Only debate is how many break in miles are necessary.  I'm not sure there is a big difference between 100 miles and 500.  Heat cycle, let the rings seat, and then all should be good.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2012, 07:57:24 AM »

I spoke to my builder and he said he'd have enough miles and heat cycles on the bike for the rings to seat and the engine to be good to go.  He said it could be close to 200 miles on the bike before he's finished with the last dyno run.  Sounds like a lot of miles, but if he's doing that I think I'll be set.  Only 48 days 11 hours til spring..... Vrooooom
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2012, 05:33:46 PM »

Have a tman 120 in my 06 SG.  130/130 RW.  Carb bike.  Can't say enough good things about tman work.  Motor pulls like a train at 90+.  Think I have the 660 cam (been a few years) love the idle.  Had just over 12K in the motor (he supplied original 120).  Worth every penny. Spook
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2012, 05:50:20 PM »

That makes me even more rev'd up....  the heads are supposed to be back this week.  I'm promised the bike back by the end of Feb.  I dropped her off before Christmas and told them to have it done by then.  Little did I know that the weather in Ohio would be so nice.  It's not been easy feeling 50+ degree days and no scooter to cruise with.
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130TQ 124HP
TR Stage 2 Street Eliminator Pro-Touring Heads
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TTS Master Tuner
SE 10.5:1 forged pistons
4-5/8" stroke Se Pro Stroker Flywheel and rod Assembly, trued and welded by Revolution Performance
Cylinders 4.060 Bore
Timekin Bearing
SE 58mm TB
SE 5.3 grms/sec injectors
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2012, 06:10:11 PM »

i know how you feel
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2012, 06:34:38 PM »

i know how you feel

I'm sure you do....  Hopefully it will be well worth the wait for both of us....
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2012, 07:15:23 PM »

Just wait until the first time your builder fires it up.  It will all be worth it. 

Everybody will know it's not stock.  I get it all the time.  People tell me it sounds like a well built big block muscle car! 

I highly recommend the 30t front sprocket.  It really allowed my bike to run in it's power band.

Good luck.  I can't wait to hear what you think. 

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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2012, 10:41:38 PM »

I'm looking forward to hearing it fire up.  This is all too much like the excitement of being a kid on Christmas eve.  Knowing that I still have to wait to open my present... lol  I guess therein lies the old adage, The only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
I did decide to go with the 31T Andrews front sprocket.  It won't give quite the snap the the 30T would, but I think the 31T will be a bit easier on belts and if there is a belt issue it's a stock item a the HD dealer, not a special order item from an out of state company. 

 
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Cylinders 4.060 Bore
Timekin Bearing
SE 58mm TB
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2012, 11:13:17 AM »

Well in the spirit of change.....  We've made another change in the direction we're going.  I spoke to my builder (Buckminns HD in Xenia OH) and we're switching out the SEPRT for the TTS Mastertune.  Also at the suggestion of T-Mann we're going with his TR-660SM cam.  All the parts were in, not have to wait for the TTS tuner and the cam.  Hoping they will be able to start next week.  I'll post pictures when it gets going back together.
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130TQ 124HP
TR Stage 2 Street Eliminator Pro-Touring Heads
TR-660-SM Cam
TTS Master Tuner
SE 10.5:1 forged pistons
4-5/8" stroke Se Pro Stroker Flywheel and rod Assembly, trued and welded by Revolution Performance
Cylinders 4.060 Bore
Timekin Bearing
SE 58mm TB
SE 5.3 grms/sec injectors
SE lifters,
SE rods
SE Clutch upgrade
V&H Power Dual headers with V&H Twin Slash Oval slipons.
Andrews 31T transmission sprocket
K&N air filter
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