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[supertechal]

I have a 2015 CVO street glide with V&H power duals,V&H OS 4 1/2 slip ons, V&H V02 DRAKE air cleaner and the fuelpak3.bike runs extremely well but in 80+ degree weather just waiting for a red light to change to green the engine gets so hot the ETMS kicks in and kills the rear cylinder turning it into an air pump. this 110 engine has the 255 cams factory installed which gives the engine a lot more shake than stock engines so when the etms kicks in it shakes beyond obnoxious! i know you can turn this off but dont want to do that. I thought after putting on the pipes, tuner and air cleaner it would run cooler and the ETMS would not kick in but it didn't change it at all. I am thinking about putting a set of the love jug cooling fans on it and would like to get some input from anyone that has them on there bike pros and cons. thanks

[RGlideKid]

There are a few (if not a lot of us) guys here who don't run with EITMS activated.  I tried it, but I'm back to running without it.  With liquid cooling and the SEPST and no cats, I see it as a minor issue (never had it on a bike before..right?), but then I don't live in a big city and don't typically get into situations where I spend long minutes at stoplights every day either.
If you're in a big city all the time where lights are a real issue for you and ambient temps make the heat a nuisance, maybe the fans are a viable option.  There are a few who have the fan system on this forum and hopefully they'll weigh in as well.  You might want to change the title of your post to draw in the guys with the fans.  Good luck!

[supertechal]

first off very sweet ride you have there. i never had this before I came from a softail custom and this is my first so called bagger. I have cams in my softail bigger than this cvo and with the balanced engine it still doesn't shake very smooth. that is the biggest thing for me to get used to is the shaking engine but when the etms kicks in I just cant deal with that chit. a 2 cylinder engine running on one is very rough and the popping through the throttle body is horrible.

[skratch]

in 80+ degree weather just waiting for a red light to change to green the engine gets so hot the ETMS kicks in and kills the rear cylinder turning it into an air pump. this 110 engine has the 255 cams factory installed which gives the engine a lot more shake than stock engines so when the etms kicks in it shakes beyond obnoxious! i know you can turn this off but dont want to do that. I thought after putting on the pipes, tuner and air cleaner it would run cooler and the ETMS would not kick in but it didn't change it at all.

part of the 'problem' is that hd has changed the parameters at which the eitms kicks in.  it no longer is tied to cylinder head temp, but now has an ambient temp sensor.  80* also happens to be the threshold temp.  the thinking is that if it kicks in early, it won't be as much work to cool it down, as opposed to waiting until it's already hot and then trying to cool it down.

[supertechal]

well that changes everything. so now trying to keep it cool with the fans will not do what I had hoped for which was to keep it from activating when it got hot.do you know this for sure and if so do you know where the ambient temp sensor is. I guess I could disable it and still put the fans on to keep it cool.

[grc]

well that changes everything. so now trying to keep it cool with the fans will not do what I had hoped for which was to keep it from activating when it got hot.do you know this for sure and if so do you know where the ambient temp sensor is. I guess I could disable it and still put the fans on to keep it cool.

Yes, on the Twin Cooled bikes the EITMS is now activated by ambient temperature, not cylinder head temperature like it was before the 2014 Touring models came out.  And no, you don't need to disable the ambient temp sensor.  There is a simple way you can deactivate the system using the Infotainment system screens.  Refer to your owner's manual.

Jerry

[supertechal]

thanks for the info on the temp sensor activating the etms. I have turned it off in the info and you can toggle it on and off while it is running as well with the throttle.i just cant stand how it feels at idle when it is activated. its horrible a 2 cylinder running on one cylinder! I wanted to know if anyone was using the love jugs cooling fans to cool the engine and how loud they were.

[CVODON]

I suggest if you want to use fans look @ the Wards. They are color coded to match the engine or can be had in chrome. Much more attractive than the Love Jugs, to me. I had them on my SERG and they seem to help and Mr Ward is a great guy to deal with, I had mine on the automatic on/off sensor that Ward supplies. My sensor failed, I called and left a message. He sent me a replacement that afternoon and called me to let me know it was on the way before end of day.
Good guy.

[VRODDAVE]

I suggest if you want to use fans look @ the Wards. They are color coded to match the engine or can be had in chrome. Much more attractive than the Love Jugs, to me. I had them on my SERG and they seem to help and Mr Ward is a great guy to deal with, I had mine on the automatic on/off sensor that Ward supplies. My sensor failed, I called and left a message. He sent me a replacement that afternoon and called me to let me know it was on the way before end of day.
Good guy.

X2       love those fans on my bike ...  they do the job ... look great!   and we get a fair discount on them ...   

[ptnlinda]

Yes, on the Twin Cooled bikes the EITMS is now activated by ambient temperature, not cylinder head temperature like it was before the 2014 Touring models came out.  And no, you don't need to disable the ambient temp sensor.  There is a simple way you can deactivate the system using the Infotainment system screens.  Refer to your owner's manual.

Jerry

I live in the tropics and it is over 80 every day of the year. The EITMS drove me mad when I first got the bike and it didn't take me long to find out how to turn it off. Much happier now, used to hate the sound when the EITMS kicked when sitting at the lights. Easy enough to turn it back on if you do get caught in traffic etc.

[Sierramadre]

I keep mine disabled.  I'd rather have the bike blow up than have it putt like a Honda lawn mower as you wait at the light...

[supertechal]

I hear ya the idle when it is activated is beyond horrible. I would love to get input from someone who has the love jug fans on how loud the actually are. I want to hook them up to an auxiliary switch on the lower dash where the extra spots for switches are. That way I can keep the ETMS disabled and just flip the switch to turn on the fans if needed. Other than that I love this bike!

[T-Roy]

I have the love jugs fans on mine. I had them installed while I was in Sturgis this year and so far I love them. I got caught in a BUFFALO induced traffic jam in Yellowstone after Sturgis and bikes were pulled over everywhere due to getting too hot, I just reached down and switched the fans on and the bike ran great. I do reccommend their frame mount because they shake a good bit at idle with just the horn mount. They really do throw a lot of air. They do not come on and off automatically but i just switch mine on when stuck in traffic jams and such. I cannot hear them running when the bike is running but they are loud enough when the bike is shut off that you wont forget them on. I wired mine directly to the battery with a fuse and use the switches on the fans. I already had heated seats and backrests on my aux circuit and figured that was enough.

[T-Roy]

Post number 14 in the following thread has a picture of my bike with the love jugs installed.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=104167.msg1343083#msg1343083

[supertechal]

Thanks a lot T-Roy that's exactly what I m gonna do but leave the fan switches on and run them off an auxiliary switch in the dash panel.