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Title: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Mike 2hogs on March 20, 2008, 08:09:52 PM
Has anyone out there attempted to wire the HD headset mic so they can talk on the Zumo Bluetooth phone?
It is my thought that if you run a cord from the mic output on the Zumo into the wire going to the PTT switch it would work with the HD mic.
Has anybody tried this and if not, why?
2hogs
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Merlinii on August 26, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
I have the stock HD radio and Zumo 550.

I am using the helmet headset for bluetooth calls. There is a special (low cost) interface that allows you to plug into the 2.5mm jack on the Zumo bike mount (located above the Zumo audio out 3.5mm jack) and allows you to use your helmet headset for both CB and bluetooth.

Simple, clean, inexpensive and crystal clear calls at 70mph!
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Rooster on August 26, 2008, 10:50:12 AM
More info please, parts and where to get. Thanks
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Texas 103 on August 27, 2008, 08:27:11 AM
More info please, parts and where to get. Thanks

J&M. It's on their site
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on August 31, 2008, 11:28:08 AM
J&M. It's on their site

You mean this?

http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=CFRG-HDC-ZMO550&PF=6

$269.99 isn't exactly low cost, so I don't think that can be what Merlinii means!

You also need to press a handlebar mounted switch to talk on your cellphone, so it's not exactly the perfect solution.  Cellset's one is better, in my opinion: http://www.cellset.com/multigps.html  but at $225.00, it's not cheap either, so I think he means something else!

Any more info, Merlinii?

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: ryr8828dj on August 31, 2008, 02:08:10 PM
I'm using the Zumo 550 with the J & M bluetooth stereo headset and my BlackJack...pretty seamless... I've got a lot to learn about the Zumo though, I admit.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Merlinii on September 04, 2008, 02:18:41 PM
I am using the single Harley/J&M helmet headset for CB and bluetooth calls. There is a special (low cost) interface that allows you to plug into the 2.5mm jack on the Zumo bike mount (located above the Zumo audio out 3.5mm jack) and allows you to use your Harley/J&M helmet headset for both CB and bluetooth.

Simple, clean, invisible, inexpensive and crystal clear calls at 70mph!

I tried many many many bluetooth headsets and above 30mph wind noise made them useless.

Ok, here's the skinny. The Z has a 2.5mm jack above the audio-out for a micrphone.

In my case I ran the wire from the 2.5mm Z mike-out inside the handlebars and under the center tank dash.

Again, in my case all my wires are inside the bars. I also ran the audio-out from the Z in the bars and added an additional AUX to the back of the HD radio. Hence, the extra work (In my case) to put the wires inside the bars.

See Post: http://hdforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2801104

In my case  ran the audio-out and mike-out under the Powerbar (see pics in above thread)
I can remove the Z's bike mount with the audio-out and mike-out in less than 5 seconds in order to lock it up.

Depending on your setup if you have wires under your bars you could follow them.

In the tank dash, where you plug in your helmet headset, there is a wire with a round pin connector at one end (where you plug in your headset) and the other end of this wire is a Deutsch connector that plugs into the wiring harness.

Unscrew the tank dash then unplug the Deutsch connector from the wiring harness and plug in the interface between the connectors.

One end of the interface plugs into the headset dash wire Deutsch connector end and the other end plugs into the wiring harness Deutsch connector. Basically, the interface plugs inline between the two Deutsch connectors.

Headset dash cable/Deutsch end <> Interface <> HD wiring harness. Male to female connection.

The mike jack wire (from the Z) plugs into the interface and now the headset will do cell calls and CB w/the single helmet headset.

The interface is small and hides under the seat.

It sounds complicated, however, if you are running the mike-out wire from the Z under the bars. Pulling the tank dash cover, unplugging the Deutsch connector plugging in the interface, plugging in the Z's mike out wire into the interface and buttoning up the tank dash takes about ten minutes to install.

Install time = less than one beer.

Wanna check it out on the cheap?
Go to Radio Shack get a 2.5mm lapel mike ($5-$10) plug it in the Z and make a call.
Don't wanna have a extra wire from the Z to your helmet with an alligator clip attaching the lapel mike to your helmet mike...(it does look funky) then the interface works great and you're using your helmet mike.

Your cell phone is on your belt and your helmet is on your head.
Simple, clean, invisible, inexpensive and crystal clear calls at 70mph!

Here is my parts list

1) Harley Davidson Headset/Zumo/Bluetooth/Interface

1) SP-HEC-7
Description: SOUND PROFESSIONALS ADAPTER CABLE - 2.5MM MALE RIGHT ANGLE PLUG TO A 3.5MM MALE RIGHT ANGLE PLUG 8" LONG

1) Radio Shack 274-886 Gold Plated female-female 1/8 coupler

1) SP-SPSC-7
Description: SOUND PROFESSIONALS GOLD PLATED 3.5MM (1/8 INCH) RIGHT ANGLE STEREO PATCH CABLE - 2 Meters

2) Plastic P clamps (free)
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on September 05, 2008, 12:40:14 PM

Unscrew the tank dash then unplug the Deutsch connector from the wiring harness and plug in the interface between the connectors.

One end of the interface plugs into the headset dash wire Deutsch connector end and the other end plugs into the wiring harness Deutsch connector. Basically, the interface plugs inline between the two Deutsch connectors.

Headset dash cable/Deutsch end <> Interface <> HD wiring harness. Male to female connection.

I've read through your post a few times now, Merl - and the parts list - but I can't see the important part!!  Where do you get this interface???  :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Fired00d on September 05, 2008, 06:44:39 PM
I've read through your post a few times now, Merl - and the parts list - but I can't see the important part!!  Where do you get this interface???  :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

Jim
The million dollar question. I too read it and came up w/the same conclusion. :confused5: If you're going to speak of the part, say how well it works, and how inexpensive it is let the members here know how they can get it. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: sportygordy on September 06, 2008, 11:50:35 AM
Sure glad i found one the Harley's BT Mods.. Life is sooo much easier.. :pineapple:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Merlinii on September 08, 2008, 03:35:35 PM
The folks making the interface said it may be a week or two before the parts and procedures will be completed.
I will post again in 1-2 weeks with all the contact info.

Here are some pictures of the setup on my bike.

(http://www.qwksilver.com/zumo/ZumoBT1.jpg)

(http://www.qwksilver.com/zumo/ZumoBT2.jpg)

(http://www.qwksilver.com/zumo/ZumoBT3.jpg)

I ran the audio out and mike out wires inside the handlebars.
I did the "AUX jack in the back of the HD radio" mod.
I ran the mike out wire inside the bars and under the tank dash to the interface.
The two wire connections on the left go into the handlebars.
The two wire connections on the right connect to the Zumo.

I used the Powerlet Powerbar and 2 1/2" Techmount stem w/quick disconnect.
I installed two Radio Shack 1/8" couplers under the Powerlet Powerbar.
This allows for a quick disconnect of the Zumo and Zumo bike mount. (for safe keeping)

It works with both the bikes radio speakers and/or the headset.
What is amusing is turning on the bikes speakers and playing the phone call so all can hear.
Yes, bluetooth and CB both work with the HD/J&M headset.

I have tested the HD radio, CD, CB, Zumo MP3 and Bluetooth to make and receive calls.
The Z's MP3 music stops playing during the phone call and starts again upon hang up.
However, I have not tried it with a passenger.
It should work, I just don't have a passenger or extra headset to try it with.


I can add a link to a WAV file I made of the Headset/Zumo/bluetooth/interface sound quality if you would like.



 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Merlinii on October 16, 2008, 07:11:28 PM
I've read through your post a few times now, Merl - and the parts list - but I can't see the important part!!  Where do you get this interface???  :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

Jim

UPDATED: 6/29/09

Just to let you folks know, I changed out the prior interface that I was using and just
installed the HD BLUETOOTH BOMM from http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/ (http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/)

It arrived within two days of ordering.

(http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1//pwpimages/.__243_182_HD%20Bluetooth%20Bomm.JPG)

SIDE NOTE:
Now I know why they call it a BOMM...I personally think it looks like a miniature pipe bomb. (GRIN)

Installation:
It was a simple installation. Just connect the two wires and the 2.5mm plug that are attached to the BOMM.

Installation Time:
It took me less than 15 minutes.
SIDE NOTE: It probably would have taken less if I wasn't sucking on a beer.

My Configuration:
Zumo 550, iPhone, stock HD center console and stock HD headset.

Fitment:
The actual device is fairly small and in my case easily fit with no challenges.
In the picture you can see how small it is in comparison to the 2.5 mm plug.

Results:
It works GREAT!
It's so clear that folks I talk to on the phone don't even know I'm on the bike.
This thing is amazing, inexpensive, easy to install and crystal clear.
No switches, no buzzing, no humming, no interference.
Just plain 'ole good clean sound for the caller and receiver.

Conclusion:
IMHO - It works GREAT!
Folks that I speak to on the phone don't even know I'm on the bike.
This thing is amazing, inexpensive, crystal clear and easy to install.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: BalDeagle on October 16, 2008, 08:05:30 PM
Sounds good - we await your information as to where to buy this piece of kit.

Nige
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bisounours on March 01, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
And we wait , wait, wait .....
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on March 02, 2009, 04:35:33 AM
And we wait , wait, wait .....

Indeed we do, Jacques.  I've emailed the guy direct in October - got his email address from Merlinii - and had a reply after a few weeks saying no details yet, and he'd get back to me, but nothing yet. (And Merlinii was last on the board in November).

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: RJ749 on March 02, 2009, 01:07:40 PM
Indeed we do, Jacques.  I've emailed the guy direct in October - got his email address from Merlinii - and had a reply after a few weeks saying no details yet, and he'd get back to me, but nothing yet. (And Merlinii was last on the board in November).

Jim

One in the same maybe?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on March 02, 2009, 01:22:58 PM
One in the same maybe?

No, don't think so - but I wonder about the product.  Merlinii described it, but had no photos...

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: dmnrdn on March 02, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
I contacted the guy in the beginning of Jan said he was looking for suppliers for the part to keep the =price down under $68 a piece.  I sent him an email asking him to build 2 for a bit more than the 68.  Said it would be 3 weeks and he would send me a paypal bill.  5 weeks nothing.  Seet him another email 2 1/2 weeks ago asking about the status.  No email returned.  I have given up on it.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on March 03, 2009, 07:35:06 AM
I contacted the guy in the beginning of Jan said he was looking for suppliers for the part to keep the =price down under $68 a piece.  I sent him an email asking him to build 2 for a bit more than the 68.  Said it would be 3 weeks and he would send me a paypal bill.  5 weeks nothing.  Anet him another email 2 1/2 weeks ago asking about the status.  No email returned.  I have given up on it.

Yeah, I know it's only a sideline for him, and not his real job, but the least he could do is respond better to genuine enquiries like yours and mine...
 :nixweiss:
Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: dmnrdn on March 03, 2009, 11:25:13 AM
Exactly. 

Do not tell me you are going to do something in a set amount of time and then when I give you more than enough time and ask you about do not ignore me.  I am a big boy and can understand if things like earing a living, family or health issue rise up.  But to totally ignore people is disrespectful.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: AnyNoleRider on May 10, 2009, 06:34:22 PM
There was another guy making these interfaces, his name is Jim Bissonette. I wrote to him and got this reply:

J at the time I am not selling the cable because of legal issues with another company that thinks I infringed on one of their patents. I hope to have this situation cleared up in a few weeks.

You can keep an eye on my web site, when you see them for sale I’m back.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Regards

Jim

So, if he can't legally make the interfaces, who is legally making and selling them?
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on May 11, 2009, 04:22:35 AM
There was another guy making these interfaces, his name is Jim Bissonette. I wrote to him and got this reply:

J at the time I am not selling the cable because of legal issues with another company that thinks I infringed on one of their patents. I hope to have this situation cleared up in a few weeks.

You can keep an eye on my web site, when you see them for sale I’m back.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Regards

Jim

So, if he can't legally make the interfaces, who is legally making and selling them?


I'm not sure the ones he was doing were actually the same, though.... :nixweiss:

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: woode on May 18, 2009, 08:48:59 PM
There was another guy making these interfaces, his name is Jim Bissonette. I wrote to him and got this reply:

J at the time I am not selling the cable because of legal issues with another company that thinks I infringed on one of their patents. I hope to have this situation cleared up in a few weeks.

You can keep an eye on my web site, when you see them for sale I’m back.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Regards

Jim

So, if he can't legally make the interfaces, who is legally making and selling them?


Wow.  Glad I bought mine when I did - it works great.  The original thread for the Bissonette harness... http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=34687.0
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on May 20, 2009, 08:48:01 AM
http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on May 20, 2009, 08:53:10 AM
There was another guy making these interfaces, his name is Jim Bissonette. I wrote to him and got this reply:

J at the time I am not selling the cable because of legal issues with another company that thinks I infringed on one of their patents. I hope to have this situation cleared up in a few weeks.

You can keep an eye on my web site, when you see them for sale I’m back.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Regards

Jim

So, if he can't legally make the interfaces, who is legally making and selling them?


Started selling them again, legal issue resolved.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on May 21, 2009, 06:51:32 AM
There was another guy making these interfaces, his name is Jim Bissonette. I wrote to him and got this reply:

J at the time I am not selling the cable because of legal issues with another company that thinks I infringed on one of their patents. I hope to have this situation cleared up in a few weeks.

You can keep an eye on my web site, when you see them for sale I’m back.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Regards

Jim

So, if he can't legally make the interfaces, who is legally making and selling them?


Just so there is no confusion on this. The contested product was not the products I was selling, it was a new product that was in the final design stage.

It was never illegal to sell my cables. It would not be illegal to sell the contested product, but it might get me sued and after one quad heart bypass under my belt I don’t need stress in my life.

I stopped selling the original cables on the advice of my lawyer, I think it was bad advice but he is the lawyer. I have since come to term with the other party and started selling again.

I’m now modifying the contested product to remove the Bluetooth and replace it with a cord, I still need to run road tests and find a supplier for some special parts before I offer it for sale.

Jim 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: sportygordy on May 21, 2009, 10:49:50 AM
Just so there is no confusion on this. The contested product was not the products I was selling, it was a new product that was in the final design stage.

It was never illegal to sell my cables. It would not be illegal to sell the contested product, but it might get me sued and after one quad heart bypass under my belt I don’t need stress in my life.

I stopped selling the original cables on the advice of my lawyer, I think it was bad advice but he is the lawyer. I have since come to term with the other party and started selling again.

I’m now modifying the contested product to remove the Bluetooth and replace it with a cord, I still need to run road tests and find a supplier for some special parts before I offer it for sale.

Jim 


Who is the other manufacture making the product calming you copied? Who know's you may end of with some free legal advice here  :P
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on May 23, 2009, 07:50:47 AM
I can't say,  >:(   lawyer stuff.  You would be suprised....YOU REALLY WOULD! :o

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 05, 2009, 03:09:07 PM
Some of you asked me if I had a device that would allow the passenger to talk also. Well you asked and I designed and over the past 2 months have tested the new HD Dual Seat Bomm. It operates like the HD Bluetooth Bomm but now your Significant Other can also talk. :pineapple:

Don't forget the 15% discount for CVO members. Let me know you are a member as I have not perfected heading mind yet. I'm giving everyone 15% off this month so I can't offer an addition 15% for CVO memebrs.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on July 06, 2009, 06:30:28 AM
Some of you asked me if I had a device that would allow the passenger to talk also. Well you asked and I designed and over the past 2 months have tested the new HD Dual Seat Bomm. It operates like the HD Bluetooth Bomm but now your Significant Other can also talk. :pineapple:

Don't forget the 15% discount for CVO members. Let me know you are a member as I have not perfected heading mind yet.

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

Jim

I see you list postage to England, Jim.  What about us folks in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland?  ;)

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 06, 2009, 06:40:11 AM
I don’t mean to leave any country out. The last time I was at the post office I asked what the shipping cost would be to Canada and England because those where the countries that people were asking me to ship to.

I will ship any where now but I don’t have costs to every country so I asked on the web site that people who were interested to get in touch with me via email and I would get the cost for them. Eventually I will have the cost for most countries and update the web site accordingly.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on July 06, 2009, 06:46:13 AM
I don’t mean to leave any country out. The last time I was at the post office I asked what the shipping cost would be to Canada and England because those where the countries that people were asking me to ship to.

I will ship any where now but I don’t have costs to every country so I asked on the web site that people who were interested to get in touch with me via email and I would get the cost for them. Eventually I will have the cost for most countries and update the web site accordingly.


The cost is the same to England, Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland. These are the four - separate -  countries that make up the UK, so it would be simplest to just list "UK" instead of England.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 06, 2009, 08:32:42 AM
Thanks for the lesson in geography.

I learned something new today. ;D
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Eqcons on July 06, 2009, 09:04:31 AM
Thanks for the lesson in geography.

I learned something new today. ;D

 :) Pleased to be of service! 

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: woode on July 09, 2009, 02:33:35 AM
Some of you asked me if I had a device that would allow the passenger to talk also. Well you asked and I designed and over the past 2 months have tested the new HD Dual Seat Bomm. It operates like the HD Bluetooth Bomm but now your Significant Other can also talk.

So, Jim...  How does this product differ from the one that I installed (which was I think one of your original designs that uses the accessory switch)?  Is there enough of a difference/improvement that I would want to upgrade?

Ed
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 09, 2009, 06:55:10 AM
BIG differance  :o  in voice quality, the new design is compatable with many more phones and NO SWITCH.  ::)

When did you buy the model you have now?

Email me an we will discuss the cost to upgrade.

jbissonette1@comcast.net

Jim

I will make the same upgrade offer to anyone who has an older model all you have to do is email me. I want to make every effort to give the best quality and functionality to all those who purchased the Bluetooth interface from me.

If you are in the area and want to ride down to my place I can hook you up with a test module in 30 seconds so you can try it out and if you decide you want it I will install it for you.

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: chappy on July 12, 2009, 07:13:11 PM
Jim,
I just dropped you an e-mail with some questions.
But as I read this thread on CVO I thought of another question;
Is it possible to just have a modual that would plug into the HD 7 pin dash and have the 7 pin headset cord plug into the modual?
thanks
chappy 
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 13, 2009, 06:50:02 AM
You just described the test module I use when people stop by. It has a 7 pin male and female connector and just plugs into the helmet hook-up cord. The problem with it is that the 2.5mm plug has to be routed to the Zumo and it is unsightly to say the least. When people are testing it on the road I run this cord over the tank, wrap it around the ignition switch and route it to their Zumo leaving a bit of slack in the cord so you can turn the bars. It is also easy for someone to take if you leave it on the bike while you are in a store, etc. Unless you want to remove it and then reinstall it every time you leave the bike. The nice part is that you don't have to take the fairing apart or cut and solder the wire and it is movable from bike to bike. I can make one for you if that is the way you want to go.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: chappy on July 13, 2009, 02:56:50 PM
Hi Jim,

Of course I just got done replying to your e-mail before I read your answer to my post here. Sorry for the double questions.

Ahh, yes, I forgot the external 2.5 mm plug for the mic on the zumo.
That externa application would add to the exposed wire clutter for sure.
Thanks for the offer to make that for me but I think I'd prefer the hidden version better.

Dumb, maybe, but if my phone is off, my 2003 Ultra radio will work on intercom and CB as usual, right? Or will I have to unplug the mic at the zumo when my phone is off?

Thanks again for your speedy reply via e-mail

chappy
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 13, 2009, 03:25:35 PM
The Harley Audio System will continue to work as advertised with or without the Bomm installed. It does not matter if the phone is on or off, the radio functions are not effected in any manner by installing the Bomm. It interfaces completly with the stock Harley Radio's whether it is the Harmon Kardon or the Sound Design. If your helmet microphone works with your radio then it will work with the Bomm.

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 16, 2009, 08:37:37 AM
Just to reiterate the HD Bomm is NOT designed to work with the hand held microphone. If you are using a hand held microphone don't waste your time with the HD Bomm.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: aushog on July 17, 2009, 08:46:54 PM
Kudos to Jim. 

I ordered the HD BOMM and received it about 3 days later.  Instructions were complete and accurate, installation was easy, and it works perfectly!

Nice to see a small business with quality product and service at a good price.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 18, 2009, 07:00:52 AM
Kudos to Jim. 

I ordered the HD BOMM and received it about 3 days later.  Instructions were complete and accurate, installation was easy, and it works perfectly!

Nice to see a small business with quality product and service at a good price.

Thank you for your kind words.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on September 13, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
The Bomm is now a bit larger in diameter. It was ¾” and is now 1 ¼”. I switched out a few components in order to compensate for the low microphone volume that some of the Zumo 660’s exhibit. Unfortunately I had to compromise with increasing the size or changing the container which I want to keep.

The upgraded components doubles the Bomm’s microphone output, which helps with the new Zumo 660 and doesn’t overdrive the microphone input circuits of either the 550 or 660. It also takes care of the problem the Bomm was having with some J&M or IMC headsets.

I won’t be re-writing the installation instructions as the larger diameter will not interfere with the placement it still fits where the instructions show.

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: ckraus on September 26, 2009, 04:05:56 AM
The Bomm is now a bit larger in diameter. It was ¾” and is now 1 ¼”. I switched out a few components in order to compensate for the low microphone volume that some of the Zumo 660’s exhibit. Unfortunately I had to compromise with increasing the size or changing the container which I want to keep.

The upgraded components doubles the Bomm’s microphone output, which helps with the new Zumo 660 and doesn’t overdrive the microphone input circuits of either the 550 or 660. It also takes care of the problem the Bomm was having with some J&M or IMC headsets.

I won’t be re-writing the installation instructions as the larger diameter will not interfere with the placement it still fits where the instructions show.

Jim


Hi Jim,

I've also dropped you an email.. I've got two of your BOMM's both with Zumo 660's and have the low mike input problem.
However i'm thinking of upgrading to the J&M elite headset with their High Output mic. Do you think this will help?

Or should I be upgrading?

Thanks
Chris.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on September 26, 2009, 07:17:39 AM
Hello Chris:

I sent you an email but will post here also in case others with the 660 and the older Bomm are also having volume issues.

The older style Bomm that you have does not do well with some of the 660’s. That is why I doubled the output of the Bomm to make up for the low microphone problem with the 660’s. The new design solved the problem. Of course I do expect Garmin at some point in time will also fix the problem but it won’t be a software fix they will have to redesign the microphone input circuit on the 660.

The 660 is very similar to the Nuvi by Garmin. I think the 660 is a take off of the Nuvi and is not a new design by Garmin just an upgraded Nuvi.

The new Bomm now works well with all J&M headsets.

I am upgrading my customers to the new design if they have the 660 and are experiencing issues with low volume. I am replacing the old Bomm with the new one for $50.00 for the Single Seat and $70.00 for the Dual Seat + S&H. You have to return the old Bomm to me after you have received the new one and tested it out. If your not happy with the new one just return it and keep the old one.

Best Regards
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on November 11, 2009, 08:59:48 AM
New web site and pricing. Please don't forget to mention you are a CVO member for the 15% discount. :orange:

www.hdbomm.com

Thanks

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: VAWAS on December 10, 2009, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from September 13,2009

The Bomm is now a bit larger in diameter. It was ¾” and is now 1 ¼”. I switched out a few components in order to compensate for the low microphone volume that some of the Zumo 660’s exhibit. Unfortunately I had to compromise with increasing the size or changing the container which I want to keep.

The upgraded components doubles the Bomm’s microphone output, which helps with the new Zumo 660 and doesn’t overdrive the microphone input circuits of either the 550 or 660. It also takes care of the problem the Bomm was having with some J&M or IMC headsets.

I won’t be re-writing the installation instructions as the larger diameter will not interfere with the placement it still fits where the instructions show.

Jim
I also sent you an e-mail.  I just received the Bomm for a 2010 Ultra and a Zumo 660 (harley).  The unit is 3/4" not the 1 1/4" referred to above.  Before I install I wanted to make sure I have the latest and correct unit or should I have the 1 1/4" unit?

Bill
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on December 14, 2009, 01:19:33 PM
Your OK.

Sorry I was not able to respond sooner to your email but like I said my basement flooded and I was a little busy with that problem.

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Jews32 on December 16, 2009, 02:43:43 AM
J&M makes a unit that will do that. i think its around 269. check their website


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Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on April 14, 2010, 06:58:58 AM
Just bumping.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: dmnrdn on April 21, 2010, 09:58:26 PM
Jim,
     I just got the new BOMM today and installed.  What a difference 1 year make.  I had bought one of you units last year and installed it.  I had an electrical problem caused by a chafed harness so HD replaced the harness to the radio under my ESP.  I did reinstall the old unit because I just did not have time to do it.  Glad I did not.  The new unit is so much easier to install and the clarity is the best.  I used the posi-lock tap-its and what an easy installation. 

     A friend of mine spent over 2X to put the J&M harness etc on his J&M set up.  His cell phone is all choppy and static is on the line.  I called his home from my bike going down the road @ 70MPH.  He did not believe me because of how well it sounded.

    Great job on the design and quality. :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs: :xyxthumbs:
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on April 22, 2010, 07:15:19 AM
Thanks for the kind words. I spent many hours in the basement R&D room (LOL) to get the unit where it is today and I am pleased with the improvements over the older versions.

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: ckraus on June 26, 2011, 10:51:26 AM
Hello Chris:

I sent you an email but will post here also in case others with the 660 and the older Bomm are also having volume issues.

The older style Bomm that you have does not do well with some of the 660’s. That is why I doubled the output of the Bomm to make up for the low microphone problem with the 660’s. The new design solved the problem. Of course I do expect Garmin at some point in time will also fix the problem but it won’t be a software fix they will have to redesign the microphone input circuit on the 660.

The 660 is very similar to the Nuvi by Garmin. I think the 660 is a take off of the Nuvi and is not a new design by Garmin just an upgraded Nuvi.

The new Bomm now works well with all J&M headsets.

I am upgrading my customers to the new design if they have the 660 and are experiencing issues with low volume. I am replacing the old Bomm with the new one for $50.00 for the Single Seat and $70.00 for the Dual Seat + S&H. You have to return the old Bomm to me after you have received the new one and tested it out. If your not happy with the new one just return it and keep the old one.

Best Regards


Hi Jim,

Are you still doing dual seat units?

I note the website only seems to have single wires on them now. Or am I missing something?

Chris
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on June 27, 2011, 08:19:28 AM
Chris as you may already know the problems in Japan have caused a shortage of some electronic parts and others that you just can not get anymore. I fell into the latter and not knowing when the part would be available again and knowing that I would run out of the current part shortly I had to find a replacement component. I must have read 5 dozen spec sheets and ordered a dozen or more new parts to test before I found a possible replacement for one of my components. The new part is larger and the ability of the part to handle dual seat operation was somewhat limited. This created 2 problems. The first was that I had to re-design the case but still keep it as small as possible and keep the pipe bomb look. The second was to make it for just the driver. The positive side of this is that the new part has a flatter frequency response then the old and this improved the sound quality.

As far as the looks of the case it took a bit of American ingenuity but I was able to keep the looks (somewhat) and most importantly the size of the case under control. The new model can still be used in a dual seat configuration but it does not work as well as I want so I suggest using it in the single seat (Driver) configuration now. If you want you can always try it in the dual seat configuration to see if you like the response. The only difference between dual seat and single seat is which wire on the radio you connect the H-D Bomm to. 

I just changed the installation instructions on the web site this morning and I still have to change the picture of the Bomm. I shipped the last old model this past Friday and I am now shipping the new model. It takes a little longer to make the new model and the price of the new part is higher but I have not increased the cost, I will eat it.

Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Swinger on July 03, 2011, 06:36:02 AM
Hi Guys,

I've only had my 2011 CVO for a month, and have just started playing with pairing my i Phone 4 with the Zumo 660 via Bluetooth. The pairing is ok, but I cannot seem to get the phone calls through to the std headset, and cut the audio?,  Do I have to set up anyhtng in the Intercom or CB menu?

I manage to dial and get it to cut the radio once, and talk to the called phone,  but since, zilch!

Can anyone help pls?

Thx,
Stu
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on July 03, 2011, 11:33:08 AM
Hi Guys,

I've only had my 2011 CVO for a month, and have just started playing with pairing my i Phone 4 with the Zumo 660 via Bluetooth. The pairing is ok, but I cannot seem to get the phone calls through to the std headset, and cut the audio?,  Do I have to set up anyhtng in the Intercom or CB menu?

I manage to dial and get it to cut the radio once, and talk to the called phone,  but since, zilch!

Can anyone help pls?

Thx,
Stu

Stu the answer to all of your questions are covered in this post. If you are still confused you can call me @ 302-786-2606 or send me an email @ Jbissonette1@comcast.net and I will explain it to you.


Jim
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: llewop on June 17, 2013, 10:25:53 AM
 :jalapeno:
Yes, I have to agree, the HDBomm is the best thing going.  I can talk while riding, the other person is amazed when they are told I am on my bike.
This is just what I was looking for.  I've had mine for a bout two years now in conjunction with my ZUMO 550.
Excellent.
Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: Rscott1684 on March 30, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Anyone found a solution to connect Sena Smh10 bluetooth headset to 2014 CVO.



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Title: Re: Harley Davidson headset with Zumo
Post by: bissjim on March 31, 2014, 08:12:16 AM
Anyone found a solution to connect Sena Smh10 bluetooth headset to 2014 CVO.



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