Forum of Darkness is really GREAT! I'm going to use that from now on!
I am starting to think of stickers, too. Even looked at Vistaprint to make me think more about this. I have ALWAYS given my tuner, with the bike, whenever I traded one in.
When I finally get around to turning my personal bike back to Lambda (by installing the original 2010 ECM... I am using an 09 ECM because back in the day... there were no Lambda tunes for a 120r), I am going to buy a blue TTS for that bike for sure.
We, here, tend to be on the side of knowledge, etc. but one has to also remember the guys that go to shops with money... not time, nor energy, to DIY anything. If us members can help educate our fellow members... PLEASE TURN IN YOUR TUNER WITH THE BIKE... we can help countless folks down the road. CHEAP new bikes are $20k anymore. Give UP that $500 tuner to the next guy. That will help the next guy... AND the next dude who works on the bike.
It is simply beyond me why someone would allow a bike, with a tuner married to it, down the road to a new owner withOUT that bike's tuner. Even a PC3!!! If a bike has mods... and it took some kind, any kind of tune to make it run better.... PLEASE give that tuner up.
The benefit of that is simple. Kharma won't bite you, and.... you will be forced to buy a new tuner with the new bike. That is NOT a bad thing... and this discussion points this out readily... new versions of all tuners seem to be way better tuners. There is now a TTS2 that is light years away, functionally, from the old TTS. SEPST has altered their business model to mimic TTS and PV... no more disks to buy. I have even heard of some calling new PVs a PV2?
Oh... cables are always available for TTS2 at a Harley dealer. Good enough quality, too. Just buy a cable set for a SEPST. $40