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Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« on: April 19, 2013, 05:05:50 PM »

I installed the cooling fans today along with the thermal switch as supplied by Jason at Wardspartswerks.com
I'm well impressed by the quality and efficiency of the system.
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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2013, 05:15:44 PM »

I have this on my RG and it works awesome. It drops the temp to a 20-30 degrees. No worrying about being caught in traffic.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 09:33:56 PM »

I sure like mine! The thermal switch is nice... You never have to worry about forgetting to turn them on.

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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 10:04:35 PM »

I have the Wards fans, thermal switch and oil cooler thermostat on my SERG. Quality parts without a doubt, but I honestly have noticed very little difference in felt heat. Took my lowers off today as summer is here but during the last few months the fans seem to run almost all the time and do move alot of air, but my right leg in traffic is still uncomfortable. I have not done any kind of monitored temp check, just seat of the pants. Bike has Fullsac tune and baffles, otherwise stock.
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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 07:11:02 AM »

For sure the fans will be blowing hot air over the right leg. So I doubt you will notice a drop in temp on that leg.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 08:51:33 AM »

Have the Chrome Fans on my 2012 Convertible,
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 08:54:36 AM »

Another shot of the fans on my Convertible,
Love the look of them but cant comment on the performance just yet!
Also fitted the Performance Machine Horn Cover, IMO it looks more balanced with the Fans!
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 09:35:24 AM »

One more shot of the Fans!
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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 11:30:42 AM »

Heat Transfer 101:  Hotter things transfer heat to cooler things until they all become the same temperature.  That includes your leg...be thankful that the two temperatures do not equalize rapidly in this case.  ;)
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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 12:11:35 PM »

I have the Wards fans, thermal switch and oil cooler thermostat on my SERG. Quality parts without a doubt, but I honestly have noticed very little difference in felt heat. Took my lowers off today as summer is here but during the last few months the fans seem to run almost all the time and do move alot of air, but my right leg in traffic is still uncomfortable. I have not done any kind of monitored temp check, just seat of the pants. Bike has Fullsac tune and baffles, otherwise stock.

For sure the fans will be blowing hot air over the right leg. So I doubt you will notice a drop in temp on that leg.

I think some, and perhaps many, people misunderstand what the fans true purpose is.  They aren't designed to increase your comfort, they are designed to keep the cylinder head temperature a little lower, as a form of mechanical insurance.  If you notice where these particular fans are located, they are designed to blow directly at the heads at the spark plug locations,  not the gap between the cylinders, so they aren't likely to blow that much air over to your leg on the right side.  And the cylinder heads are not the prime contributor to the heat you feel on your legs and other body parts anyway.  By far the highest temperatures are radiating from the exhaust system, not the heads and cylinders.  The cylinder head temps as reported by the sensor in the front cylinder head normally run below 300° F (the EITMS kicks in around the 280's).  Yes, 300° F is kind of warm and you probably don't want to rest your bare leg on something that hot.  However, the exhaust pipes can reach temps over 1000° F.  Which do you think is the biggest contributor to your comfort level?

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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 04:37:55 PM »

Very visually pleasing. Im wondering tho is this really necessary when oil cooler is in place and cat is removed and bike is tuned properly? Or is it more a matter of added peace of mind?
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 06:14:40 PM »

Very visually pleasing. Im wondering tho is this really necessary when oil cooler is in place and cat is removed and bike is tuned properly? Or is it more a matter of added peace of mind?

I fitted the fans as I do several parade shows with the bike which involves a lot of stop go riding. The fans do help in keeping the engine a bit cooler. As far as heat on right leg I in no way even considered that it would reduce the temp transfer to that body part. You ride with that leg just inches from the exhaust so it's for sure going to be hot.

There's a lot if very good research done by Jason of Wardspartswerks.com and it's worth reading his web site for some in depth insight into the whole engine temperature issue.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 06:17:20 PM »

Very visually pleasing. Im wondering tho is this really necessary when oil cooler is in place and cat is removed and bike is tuned properly? Or is it more a matter of added peace of mind?

Hmmm... Perhaps better peace of mind, just knowing that there is some air blowing on the hottest part of the engine when I'm not moving quickly enough for the natural airflow to have sufficient cooling effects. With a big air-cooled engine, everything helps. The more air there is blowing on it, the better... and the fans just help dissipate more of the considerable heat our 110s generate. When moving slowly, or in the heat of summer, any additional airflow is better than not having it.

It's interesting how the fans cycle on and off after shutting off the engine, as the outer part of the engine is cooled by them, then more heat makes its way out of the deeper parts of the heads to the surface, triggering the switch to turn them on again.

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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2013, 09:57:27 PM »

The fans do not force heated air onto your right leg. They blow on the spark plug area, if you shut the engine off while the fans are on you can feel air movement on the right side, but very little. Most all the felt heat on the rt side is the exhaust and Wards, or anyother fan are not going to have much effect on this. And those of you that constantly mention a good "tune" making a difference... well whether the exhaust is 750 deg or 1000 degrees it is HOT and nothing you do is going to change this.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2013, 11:22:51 PM »

Just put mine on over weekend. Jason gives a good discount for hdforum members. With the thermal switch and granite coating on assembly and grill shipped(fast) was $285. I went with the HD connector fitted on the harness rather than the ring terminal. Had to dig around for a while to find the constant hot that it plugs into. At first I thought it was the amp power that I disconnected a while back and taped over. Then found same style connector a little deeper and it had a nice plug cap that I was able to now put on the amp lead. Nice easy setup, looks much better in person.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2013, 05:19:23 AM »

They look great  :2vrolijk_21:
You wont regret it! really good product and i agree they look even better in person!
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2013, 10:49:11 PM »

Got my setup yesterday in CVO gray, the powdercoat matches my 2013 Road King like it came from the factory.  I got the kit with the that wires right into the harness, painless/easy install.  Barely hear them at idle and not at all when riding.  The thermal switch makes them idiot proof, they fire up when needed and go off when not.  They cycle on two to three times after I shut down the bike in S. Florida on a 90 degree day.  When installed they look like they came from the factory.  Appear to be high quality and the powdercoat is high quality.  Also no noticeable extra heat on my right let when riding or at idle.  So far a great product.

February 9, 2014.  Update, had the fans on for nearly nine months and have ridden through all temps, they still work great and look great.  Would still highly recommend them to anyone!!
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 10:58:48 PM »

 :2vrolijk_21: look great,
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2014, 06:52:47 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2014, 06:22:46 PM »

Installed on my 2012 CVO street glide. They work so good they actually cycle on and off at idle . Gets warm,on,cools off,off. Great product. No brainer for hot running harleys. :)
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2014, 02:51:44 AM »

One year on and fans working great. Have only good words for the product. If it would only stop raining now I might actually get the engine up to temperature.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2014, 04:53:31 PM »

I guess I should put in my 2 cents.  I installed these fans for the brutal SoCal summers and traffic last fall, so I haven't had the chance to try them out in summer conditions yet.  But I have made a few very un-scientific observations.

First, since the fans only cool the heads, I expected them to have little or no effect on the oil temps.  However, my oil temps SEEM to be better controlled.  The oil temps had topped 290 degrees last summer, but since installing the WPW fans, my oil temp has not exceeded 250 on a couple 90 degree days this spring.  How well they handle 110 degree temps in slow traffic remains to be seen.

When idling after warming up completely and the fans are working, I do think there's a little more heat felt by the rider (or maybe I just notice it more because I'm thinking about it more).  I don't feel it on my right leg, but there's a lot more air removing heat from the cylinders, and that larger volume of warmer air can be felt while sitting still.  This might even increase rider discomfort in high heat and slow traffic, so if you're thinking about getting these fans for your own comfort, you may be disappointed with the results. 

I think these fans help a little with cylinder head temps, but they may actually add to rider discomfort while sitting still.  They might be insurance against high heat damaging your heads, but nothing beats a set of pipes and a good tune to increase rider comfort.

Stay safe,

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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2014, 08:40:42 AM »

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Re: Wardspartswerks cooling fans
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2014, 11:11:16 AM »

I guess I should put in my 2 cents.  I installed these fans for the brutal SoCal summers and traffic last fall, so I haven't had the chance to try them out in summer conditions yet.  But I have made a few very un-scientific observations.

First, since the fans only cool the heads, I expected them to have little or no effect on the oil temps.  However, my oil temps SEEM to be better controlled.  The oil temps had topped 290 degrees last summer, but since installing the WPW fans, my oil temp has not exceeded 250 on a couple 90 degree days this spring.  How well they handle 110 degree temps in slow traffic remains to be seen.

When idling after warming up completely and the fans are working, I do think there's a little more heat felt by the rider (or maybe I just notice it more because I'm thinking about it more).  I don't feel it on my right leg, but there's a lot more air removing heat from the cylinders, and that larger volume of warmer air can be felt while sitting still.  This might even increase rider discomfort in high heat and slow traffic, so if you're thinking about getting these fans for your own comfort, you may be disappointed with the results. 

I think these fans help a little with cylinder head temps, but they may actually add to rider discomfort while sitting still.  They might be insurance against high heat damaging your heads, but nothing beats a set of pipes and a good tune to increase rider comfort.

Stay safe,

Dan

Good observation, Dan. I use these fans and I really like them. Anything that blows AIR on our 110" engines is a good thing. But that heat has to go somewhere when you are stopped or riding slowly. I like that it's going away from the engine... even if some of it is going on me!

And you're right... by far the best way to deal with heat is to stop it from brung produced in the first place. That means dumping the POS SE 255 early-compression cams and replacing them with one of the many much-better options, getting rid of the 1300-degree catalytic converter, and getting a good TUNE! Installing these fans on a stock bike is nothing more a Band Aid...

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