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Title: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on January 18, 2009, 09:41:22 PM
There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:

Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City, KS

Doyles HD in Roseburg, Oregon

Wilwert's HD Dubuque, Iowa

San Juan Capistrano Harley, CA

Birds of Prey HD Caldwell, Idaho

Hangtown Harley in Placerville, CA

Pineda HD in Melbourne, FL (merged w/ Space Coast)

**edited**
HD of Amador     Amador       CA
Auburn HD     Auburn       CA
Elk Grove HD   Elk Grove  CA
Jacson HD   Jacson   CA
HD of Rocklin   Rocklin   CA
Doyles HD   Roseburg   CA
The Ridge HD   Lake Wales   FL
Pompano Beach HD   Pompano Beach   FL
Birds of Prey HD   Caldwell   ID
Central HD (north)   Kansas City   KS
Riverfront HD   Lawrence   KS
Shreveport HD   Shreveport   LA
Outerbanks HD   Elizabeth City   NC
Littleton HD   Bethlehem   NH
Brooklyn HD   Brooklyn   NY
Dick's HD   Rome   NY
Roeder's HD   Sandusky   OH
Cerini HD      PA
Hartford HD   Hartford   WI
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on January 18, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
You can add to the Hangtown Harley in Placerville.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Capo on January 18, 2009, 10:27:15 PM
There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:

Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City

Doyles HD in Roseburg Oregon

Wilwert's HD Dubuque, Iowa

San Juan Capistrano Harley, CA.

Birds of Prey HD Caldwell, Idaho

They're droppin like 110's
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: igofar on January 19, 2009, 08:21:42 PM
Moderators,
I think a list of closed dealers would make a good sticky....
This would allow touring riders the chance to make note of missing dealership coverage on their GPS databases.
I know there is a few dealership POI lists out there but who knows how often they are maintained..

Brad
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dmnrdn on January 19, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
Central Harley North (Shawnee Store) did close.  More of a consolidation than anything,  Their South (Olathe) store is much bigger.  The North Store was busting at the seams for space.  They opened the South store about 3 years ago. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SPIDERMAN on January 19, 2009, 10:24:06 PM
Beagle and I were at BIGG's in San Marcos CA on Saturday. They used to have hands down the best H-D clothing section of any dealership within riding distance for us. The entire section was wiped out and in it's place a tricked out Camaro. One of the salespeople told us they were going to start selling "Muscle Cars" on consignment. "Good idea don't you think" he said. " I think it sucks beyond comprehension" was my response. I went on to explain to him just how much money I had spent on jackets, chaps, rain gear, jeans, boots, shirts, sweatshirts, hell even H-D socks at BIGGS over the years because their clothing section was so well stocked and complete. "If you guys are this hard up, you'll be locking the doors within 6 months" was the last thing I said as I walked out the door. Now maybe I'm not a businessman, but getting away from your core business as a method of keeping your core business seems more than just a little off-base. AND, we all know what happens when car people sell (or try to) motorcycles.

B B
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: MJZ on January 19, 2009, 10:31:17 PM
On the opposite end, Bumpus is opening a new store in Lynchburg, TN. and just bought his wife a new ZR1 Vette. Clearly us Bumpus customers must be paying way too much.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SPIDERMAN on January 19, 2009, 10:34:39 PM
On the opposite end, Bumpus is opening a new store in Lynchburg, TN. and just bought his wife a new ZR1 Vette. Clearly us Bumpus customers must be paying way too much.

Yeah but if you're just passing through you get an oil change and complete bike detail for $75 Mark. That's a heck of a deal. I'll rustle a California license plate for you to put on your rides. Rub some grime on your face and stuff your bags full full of clothes and tell em your on the road and need some service.

B B
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Capo on January 19, 2009, 10:49:44 PM
Yeah but if you're just passing through you get an oil change and complete bike detail for $75 Mark. That's a heck of a deal. I'll rustle a California license plate for you to put on your rides. Rub some grime on your face and stuff your bags full full of clothes and tell em your on the road and need some service.

B B

Amen to that. We went to the big dealer in Ukiah on the way back from Fort Bragg and the Redwood forest heading to Clearlake and got the $105 oil change...man was I pissed. Told them we were on the road and we had WA plates for sure, we called a few hours out and got there at 4 on the nose from Mendocino. In and out in an hour...i'll never go back and they could care less.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on January 19, 2009, 10:57:20 PM
Amen to that. We went to the big dealer in Ukiah on the way back from Fort Bragg and the Redwood forest heading to Clearlake and got the $105 oil change...man was I pissed. Told them we were on the road and we had WA plates for sure, we called a few hours out and got there at 4 on the nose from Mendocino. In and out in an hour...i'll never go back and they could care less.

I've never had to get the oil changed on the road. Are you saying that $105 is a lot? ???
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Capo on January 19, 2009, 11:20:19 PM
I've never had to get the oil changed on the road. Are you saying that $105 is a lot? ???

Usually get it for $60 bucks at home! Maybe I need more crack?!?!?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sportygordy on January 20, 2009, 12:04:55 AM
There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:

Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City, KS

Doyles HD in Roseburg, Oregon

Wilwert's HD Dubuque, Iowa

San Juan Capistrano Harley, CA

Birds of Prey HD Caldwell, Idaho

Hangtown Harley in Placerville, CA


I have heard the rumors a few months ago about Doyle's in Roseburg from another dealership in Northern California that tried to purchase, but mother Harley wouldn't approve of the purchase. Also heard about Hangtown problems almost a year ago, but i understand it was something to do with a divorce or something to that effect
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Harley Guy on January 20, 2009, 08:16:10 AM
Businesses are closing at a record rate - be it HD or manufacturers, or software companies, or whatever.

HD closings mirror the economic world we live in today - Yes, sad, but not unexpected, IMO
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hdhog1 on January 20, 2009, 09:22:39 AM
  I do not feel all these closing are only due to the "Economic Slowdown".  Most of the people who own dealerships today are more than likely, only in it for the money.  I know, I know who isn't, but I mean no real love for the lifestyle.  They go from one business to another or run several at a time.  The one that dosen't show a good return on investment is cut loose.

  The days of pulling into a delership and talking to the owner/operator who has personally been riding since he was 6 are gone or are far and few between.  I have only met a few dealers who actually love bikes the way we do.  The majority unfortunately IMO are only investors.  Hence the reason the huge differences in pricing practices.  It won't be long before you will need an interpreter to buy a bike.  The influx of foreign owned business has spread quite wide.

  The Moco can take the blame for some as well.  You can't force a dealership to expand for a bigger more modern presence if bike sales or service is down.  The smart guy will take his marbles and go home every time.  Lets face it the motorcycle is a luxury to most.   :soapbox:   Sorry again.   
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: planenut on January 21, 2009, 10:13:59 PM
well said
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Screamin_Beagle on January 22, 2009, 12:39:09 AM
hdhog1,
  Couldn't agree more.  Unfortunately the dealer that we have here (closest anyway) is exactly what you described.  It's all about dollars and cents and as a business owner is OK,  but one shouldn't turn ones back on the people that helped build the business from scratch.



Beags
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Gecko on January 22, 2009, 07:16:33 AM
I'd be surprised if this wasn't the last year for Walker's in Pacific Jct. Iowa.  And it's their own doing so I don't feel bad for them.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on January 23, 2009, 11:12:24 AM
I suspect that the list in the first post will grow this year.  And, I suspect it will grow with those dealerships whose focus has been $ and not long term customer relationships.  Those who've provided good service and shown a care and concern for the rider/owner will survive for the most part. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: PHAZE on January 23, 2009, 07:00:22 PM
What's the big deal about dealerships closing?  Bumpus closes every Monday through Friday at 6:00, 4:00 on Saturday, and 3:00 on Sunday.   :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on January 26, 2009, 09:59:14 PM
 
  The days of pulling into a delership and talking to the owner/operator who has personally been riding since he was 6 are gone or are far and few between.  I have only met a few dealers who actually love bikes the way we do.  The majority unfortunately IMO are only investors.   
We're fortunate to have a number of dealers in NC that are long-time riders/HD diehard fans that either started the business of grew up in a family run business...of course, we've got the other ones that are described here also.  It'll be interesting to see how the two types compare in surviving this 'down-turn'.   spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dlaws01 on January 27, 2009, 12:04:45 AM
It make me wonder why some dealerships are closing their doors while others are opening multiple stores like Bumpus H-D in Tennessee.   :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hogasm on January 27, 2009, 06:57:25 AM
Was told Friday that 22 dealers have closed so far this year.

This was from a sales rep in the dealership.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sportygordy on January 27, 2009, 10:18:24 PM
Was told Friday that 22 dealers have closed so far this year.

This was from a sales rep in the dealership.

You gotta remember, a lot of dealerships are closing satellite stores still considered dealerships to keep mother dealership alive. This doesn't mean the mother stores are all closing. I know the economy sucks, but folks the more negative we discuss it, the more negative it's gonna get.

As hard as it is,, I'm trying to keep a smile on my face and a positive attitude. Come on folks, i was always told this rubs off...  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: J-Carr on January 29, 2009, 12:56:37 PM
  I do not feel all these closing are only due to the "Economic Slowdown".  Most of the people who own dealerships today are more than likely, only in it for the money.  I know, I know who isn't, but I mean no real love for the lifestyle.  They go from one business to another or run several at a time.  The one that dosen't show a good return on investment is cut loose.

  The days of pulling into a delership and talking to the owner/operator who has personally been riding since he was 6 are gone or are far and few between.  I have only met a few dealers who actually love bikes the way we do.  The majority unfortunately IMO are only investors.  Hence the reason the huge differences in pricing practices.  It won't be long before you will need an interpreter to buy a bike.  The influx of foreign owned business has spread quite wide.

  The Moco can take the blame for some as well.  You can't force a dealership to expand for a bigger more modern presence if bike sales or service is down.  The smart guy will take his marbles and go home every time.  Lets face it the motorcycle is a luxury to most.   :soapbox:   Sorry again.   

I see you're from the northeast.  If you ever pass through Central PA stop at Schaeffer's in Orwigsburg.  The owner started the dealership in 67 with his father and mother.  He still owns and runs it with his family.  If you stop in on a Wednesday night (They close at 5 so all the employees can get out and ride) he'll be glad to invite you along on on the weekly ice cream dinner ride (May through October... Damn winter!).  He'll be riding his '09 FLHTCUSE4 this year.  Last year he rode an anniversary CUSE3 for somewhere around 28000 miles as I recall.

I see from my travels that most dealers are as you described.  But there are a few left.  Not many but a few.  I'm fortunate to live here and have a dealer like this.  It's worth searching to find one if you can.

Ride Safe,
J-Carr
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on January 29, 2009, 01:01:34 PM
I see you're from the northeast.  If you ever pass through Central PA stop at Schaeffer's in Orwigsburg.  The owner started the dealership in 67 with his father and mother.  He still owns and runs it with his family.  If you stop in on a Wednesday night (They close at 5 so all the employees can get out and ride) he'll be glad to invite you along on on the weekly ice cream dinner ride (May through October... Damn winter!).  He'll be riding his '09 FLHTCUSE4 this year.  Last year he rode an anniversary CUSE3 for somewhere around 28000 miles as I recall.

I see from my travels that most dealers are as you described.  But there are a few left.  Not many but a few.  I'm fortunate to live here and have a dealer like this.  It's worth searching to find one if you can.

Ride Safe,
J-Carr
Thanks for listing this good dealership, J-Carr.  At one time there was a 'good dealership' thread going....maybe we need to revive that thread for sharing.  :) spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: J-Carr on January 29, 2009, 01:11:57 PM
Hey Spyder,

I did add Schaeffer's to that list when it was going a year or so ago.  But that list was for good service, or sales, or deals, etc.  Still worthwhile, but it might be worth getting a list of dealers that actually ride and participate with their customers.  Schaeffer's is one.  Smaltz's in Eagle PA was another one until Stretch died.  Don't know if there's anyone there now who's riding or not.

Ride Safe
J-Carr
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Keats on February 02, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
I have purchased all of my bikes from Stretch (God rest his soul), and really get along with everyone at Smaltz's, But I also really like Schaeffer's, really nice people just not close enough for me to patronize their establishment regularly
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BAKRDS on February 02, 2009, 10:12:06 PM
  I do not feel all these closing are only due to the "Economic Slowdown".  Most of the people who own dealerships today are more than likely, only in it for the money.  I know, I know who isn't, but I mean no real love for the lifestyle.  They go from one business to another or run several at a time.  The one that dosen't show a good return on investment is cut loose.

  The days of pulling into a delership and talking to the owner/operator who has personally been riding since he was 6 are gone or are far and few between.  I have only met a few dealers who actually love bikes the way we do.  The majority unfortunately IMO are only investors.  Hence the reason the huge differences in pricing practices.  It won't be long before you will need an interpreter to buy a bike.  The influx of foreign owned business has spread quite wide.

  The Moco can take the blame for some as well.  You can't force a dealership to expand for a bigger more modern presence if bike sales or service is down.  The smart guy will take his marbles and go home every time.  Lets face it the motorcycle is a luxury to most.   :soapbox:   Sorry again.   


Harv's in Macedon NY  &  Gowanda  in Gowanda NY are both family run dealerships that have been
around since the hardtail days.
Title: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: sportygordy on May 14, 2009, 12:55:20 AM
Just heard on the news tonight that Auburn Harley Davidson, in Auburn California closed their doors today. They interviewed the service manager and two mechanics which stated the three would be working the next 10 days volentering their own time to complete work on customer bikes. The owners would not comment but most employees said 'due to current economic times'. A spokesman from Harley Davidson Mo Co said they will be clearing store inventory over the next few weeks.. I loved that dealership, one of my favorite stop overs for visits.. now their gone  :(
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: MUFFMAN on May 14, 2009, 06:16:41 AM
Hate to see it, but unfortunately it won't be the last.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: DCFIREMANN on May 14, 2009, 07:16:49 AM
Hate to see it, but unfortunately it won't be the last.

You are right Muffman. The list will be growing!

Be Safe

THE DAWG
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: mr_magoo on May 14, 2009, 08:52:22 AM
Sad to hear.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: RayG on May 14, 2009, 01:37:42 PM
I just read an article (can't remember source)  but it stated that over 300 Harley's per month and growing are being repossessed. That is allot of broken dreams., hope things get better soon.

Ray G. 
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: sportygordy on May 14, 2009, 01:43:05 PM
Here is the Article


http://auburnjournal.com/detail/114235.html
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: JCZ on May 14, 2009, 01:43:38 PM
Just heard on the news tonight that Auburn Harley Davidson, in Auburn California closed their doors today. They interviewed the service manager and two mechanics which stated the three would be working the next 10 days volentering their own time to complete work on customer bikes. The owners would not comment but most employees said 'due to current economic times'. A spokesman from Harley Davidson Mo Co said they will be clearing store inventory over the next few weeks.. I loved that dealership, one of my favorite stop overs for visits.. now their gone  :(

I never heard a bad word ever spoken about that dealership.  I've never made a major purchase there nor have I had any service work done there, but they were always friendly when we'd stop in on our way up to the gold country.  I guess that'll mean more customer base for Rocklin and Jackson (both owned by Guiderra family).
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: JeffsHogPen on May 14, 2009, 02:12:21 PM
Sad to hear......Nothing is a sure thing. I just had to take a 12% cut in pay. Just trying to hang on until it comes back.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: lee champion on May 14, 2009, 06:33:40 PM
yeah they cut me back 13% and glad to still have a job. so what did i do? put my SERK on a visa card
broke but ridin!
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: DavidB on May 14, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
http://wildcatharley.com/

This dealership is due to open in the next few weeks. There hiring.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: CVOJOE on May 14, 2009, 07:35:15 PM
I never heard a bad word ever spoken about that dealership.  I've never made a major purchase there nor have I had any service work done there, but they were always friendly when we'd stop in on our way up to the gold country.  I guess that'll mean more customer base for Rocklin and Jackson (both owned by Guiderra family).

Like JC, I've stopped in there a few times and probably got a t-shirt of two on the way somewhere. Took a friend there once for some parts, and the parts guys were decent. Always sad to see a dealership, at least one with a decent reputation go under. Times are tough all over.

Joe
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: sportygordy on May 15, 2009, 12:32:55 AM
yeah they cut me back 13% and glad to still have a job. so what did i do? put my SERK on a visa card
broke but ridin!

All managers (I'm one of them) at my company had to give up four working days per month, no pay for four working days each month. This started March 1, 09. The chit part is, we are still expected to show up to work on those four days no pay each month.. I guess when you are salary, they can stick it to you any way they want. I'm just thankfull I still have a pay check.  OH.. I didn't mention our health insurance went up 12% last April and our company stopped our 401K matching funds last January 09.. Oh, and did i mention I'm thanfull i still have a pay check.. >:( What is that 'ole saying 'when the tail keeps getting shorter and shorter'  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: sportygordy on May 15, 2009, 12:41:11 AM
I never heard a bad word ever spoken about that dealership.  I've never made a major purchase there nor have I had any service work done there, but they were always friendly when we'd stop in on our way up to the gold country.  I guess that'll mean more customer base for Rocklin and Jackson (both owned by Guiderra family).

This Dealership also had Hang Town Harley Davidson, and i believe that closed down a few months ago. You are right, Auburn Harley was the perfect stop over for rides up to the Gold Country and the folks there are awesome. They seemed to always have something going on there on weekends. I bought my first Harley their in 1995 from Carlos and Emma. Did you ever get a chance to meet them before they sold to the Holmes?  I know the Guiderra;s well, they are hanging on pretty good right now. Joe over in Yuba is having a tough time but he will survive. He made some smart decisions a few months ago. The Guiderra's are survivors, they know how to run and keep a business.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: AXIL on May 15, 2009, 07:22:25 AM
   I saw a lot of dealers go under in the 70's and early 80's. just history repeating itself.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: JCZ on May 15, 2009, 10:50:10 AM
This Dealership also had Hang Town Harley Davidson, and i believe that closed down a few months ago. You are right, Auburn Harley was the perfect stop over for rides up to the Gold Country and the folks there are awesome. They seemed to always have something going on there on weekends. I bought my first Harley their in 1995 from Carlos and Emma. Did you ever get a chance to meet them before they sold to the Holmes?  I know the Guiderra;s well, they are hanging on pretty good right now. Joe over in Yuba is having a tough time but he will survive. He made some smart decisions a few months ago. The Guiderra's are survivors, they know how to run and keep a business.

I did.  I knew Carlo (no "s") and Emma since 1989 when they had an independant shop in Concord and from the AHDRA bike drags.  Carlo was a big time drag racer.  I remember when they bought that little dealership (in a little metal building down off the side of Hwy. 49) and moved to a larger location before moving where it's at now.  I think they did well. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: JeffsHogPen on May 15, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
Hey I got an idea......lets give the Banks some more money........Now doesn't that just chap your..........
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: harley56 on May 20, 2009, 11:52:26 AM
Here's another one with quite a long history.

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2009/05/18/roeder-s-harley-davidson-closes
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on May 21, 2009, 09:14:17 AM
"Another casualty of a weakening economy is the just announced closure of Roeder Harley-Davidson in Sandusky, Ohio.  Founded in 1972 by George Roeder and currently owned by Will and Julie Roeder, the dealership closed its doors on Friday, May 15, 2009." (http://www.examiner.com/x-4702-Motorcycle-Travel-Examiner~y2009m5d20-Roeder-HarleyDavidson-in-Ohio-closes[/url)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SBB on May 21, 2009, 09:22:36 AM
"Another casualty of a weakening economy is the just announced closure of Roeder Harley-Davidson in Sandusky, Ohio.  Founded in 1972 by George Roeder and currently owned by Will and Julie Roeder, the dealership closed its doors on Friday, May 15, 2009." (http://www.examiner.com/x-4702-Motorcycle-Travel-Examiner~y2009m5d20-Roeder-HarleyDavidson-in-Ohio-closes[/url)


AJ, how about telling us some good news!

 :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on May 21, 2009, 09:52:53 AM

AJ, how about telling us some good news!

 :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:      :nixweiss:

I'm just responding to the title of the thread.  ;)

Harley is opening a new store in KY. (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/may/20/maryville-harley-davidson-dealer-expanding-kentuck/[/url) Too far away from Kenny Lee though.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: sportygordy on May 21, 2009, 10:31:09 AM
Is there a way to merge these into another ongoing thread with same topic? I didn't see the thread already in progress 'HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing' until now.
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: Fired00d on May 21, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
Is there a way to merge these into another ongoing thread with same topic? I didn't see the thread already in progress 'HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing' until now.
Done. :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Another Dealer Gone
Post by: sportygordy on May 22, 2009, 12:15:35 AM
Done. :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

I love magic,, thanks   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 110Mofo on May 22, 2009, 12:57:23 PM
http://www.rgj.com/article/20090522/BIZ/905220425/1071
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: soulfly on June 05, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
I hated my real estate agent, very arrogant and she acted like I didn't know what I wanted.  [That's probably why they make you sign a 3 month commitment.]  They fcut this whole economy up and everyone else is paying for it.  If you could walk and chew gum, you could buy a house and get back 5K at closing, the bubble had to burst sometime.  I hate car salesman too, pushy kiss ass liars, then.....you're a door mat.  I have no complaints about Harley sales reps, and I am not sure if they are all cool across the world, but...  Buying a Harley was a good experience and I am sad to hear that any of them are closing. :sad2: :thumbdown:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on July 08, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
Breaking news (http://www.theledger.com/article/20090708/NEWS/907085020?Title=Lake-Wales-Harley-Davidson-Shop-Closing) Lakeland, Fl dealership is closing after 3 years in business.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fatboy on July 08, 2009, 08:31:18 PM
Dick's Harley Davidson in Rome, NY is toast after 50 plus years as a low overhead small town dealer with a very loyal following........ :(

I bought two bikes there and my brother has bought 3 or 4 over the past 10 years. Guess our family "OCD" (obsessive chrome disorder) wasn't as wide spread as we thought......
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fatboy on July 17, 2009, 11:00:33 PM
Update on Dick's HD.............they are staying open afterall.  :2vrolijk_21:

Albeit they are no longer an authorized Harley dealership.........can't believe Harley is still pushing Dealer's in this economy to invest large sums of money to build state of art facilities. This type of over investment has a been a contributing factor for many of the dealerships that have closed recently......go figure.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on August 05, 2009, 10:22:08 AM
Add Elk Grove HD (California) to the list.......   http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=39584.0
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Birdman on September 28, 2009, 08:46:39 PM
Outerbanks Harley Davidson of Elizabeth City, NC is Moving to their Kitty Hawk location and Closing the Elizabeth City store Sunday October 4, 2009.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wanna ride on September 28, 2009, 09:46:45 PM
Quote
There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:

Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City, KS

Doyles HD in Roseburg, Oregon
Hey, I was in Roseburg in the spring of '07. I stopped by Doyle's HD and bought a t-shirt. I flew into Eugene from Salt Lake City, and drove down I-5 to Roseburg. Doyle's also had a dealership on the east side of the interstate just south of Eugene. Maybe they consolidated the two stores and kept open the one up in Eugene? The store in Roseburg only had about 6 bikes in there, but a chitload of friggin' knick-knacks.

I'm pretty fortunate to travel a lot for work. I get to pick up shirts from all over, and I only wear shirts from dealerships that I personally visited. It just sucks to hear about them closing.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Harleydude001 on October 16, 2009, 07:37:32 PM
What's really sad is one of our local HD Dealerships, one of the oldest Matthews HD in Fresno applied to expand their store and HD told them they would not approve it unless they moved from the area they have been in since the 50's.  What is the world coming to, you own a piece of property try to grow your business, put some money into it and the Mother Company says NO you have to move.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on October 16, 2009, 07:45:56 PM
What's really sad is one of our local HD Dealerships, one of the oldest Matthews HD in Fresno applied to expand their store and HD told them they would not approve it unless they moved from the area they have been in since the 50's.  What is the world coming to, you own a piece of property try to grow your business, put some money into it and the Mother Company says NO you have to move.
At least they continue to be consistent.  ??? har!  spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Screamin on October 16, 2009, 07:46:41 PM
What's really sad is one of our local HD Dealerships, one of the oldest Matthews HD in Fresno applied to expand their store and HD told them they would not approve it unless they moved from the area they have been in since the 50's.  What is the world coming to, you own a piece of property try to grow your business, put some money into it and the Mother Company says NO you have to move.

SOP around here. If you're not on a freeway you're NOT at all. Elyria moved to Avon, Adventure to Dover, Liberty to Boston Hts. and Freedom to North Canton. All were shops w/ some style and now all are new and w/in sight of the freeway. The old shops will be relegated to the museum before too long.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on October 17, 2009, 04:52:52 PM
What's really sad is one of our local HD Dealerships, one of the oldest Matthews HD in Fresno applied to expand their store and HD told them they would not approve it unless they moved from the area they have been in since the 50's.  What is the world coming to, you own a piece of property try to grow your business, put some money into it and the Mother Company says NO you have to move.

Not every 50 year old location is still the correct place to be, I suspect this may know longer be the greatest place, but the Matthews own the dirt and it's easiest for them.  I suppose that at best HD and the Matthews will agree to disagree, interesting to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on October 17, 2009, 08:28:01 PM
Not every 50 year old location is still the correct place to be, I suspect this may know longer be the greatest place, but the Matthews own the dirt and it's easiest for them.  I suppose that at best HD and the Matthews will agree to disagree, interesting to see how it plays out.

I've been to that dealership before.  It's right next to (hope this is right) 180 which was the east-west interstate through town.  Dealership is also in the middle of a small triangle formed by the three interstates that cut through.  Also within just a few minutes of two little airports in the area.  Flew in to one of them in a Bonanza and visited the dealership while on the ground for awhile. 

Just checked the dealership website.  On their homepage is a request that customers click on an email link to write letters asking Mother Harley not to shut the dealership down.  Humbug.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Screamin_Beagle on October 23, 2009, 10:47:39 AM
I hated my real estate agent, very arrogant and she acted like I didn't know what I wanted.  [That's probably why they make you sign a 3 month commitment.]  They fcut this whole economy up and everyone else is paying for it.  If you could walk and chew gum, you could buy a house and get back 5K at closing, the bubble had to burst sometime.  I hate car salesman too, pushy kiss ass liars, then.....you're a door mat.  I have no complaints about Harley sales reps, and I am not sure if they are all cool across the world, but...  Buying a Harley was a good experience and I am sad to hear that any of them are closing. :sad2: :thumbdown:

With all due respect to any member who might happen to be a Real Estate salesperson or broker, I agree with the above. I can't think of an occupation where you do so little and the payoff is so great. In a bull market anyone with the brains of a gnat can sell a house. In a bear market Jesus would be hard put to the task. And the thing that really galls me is that when the market is great and everything is selling, these leaches take all the credit. When the market sucks and nothing is selling they blame the homeowner for it. Out here in SoCal these people collect commissions in the $100k range on a regular basis. I don't agree on car salesmen. I know over the years they've gotten a bad rep and some deserve it, but truth be told, most of these guys work 100 hr weeks for an annual salary in the $60k-$80K range. That works out to about minimum wage. H-D salespeople are a varied lot. Most dealerships will hire a bunch of different personalities hoping to cover the spectrum so as to match the customer with the salesperson. Me and B B had a good friend who was the #1 H-D Salesman for the entire Southwest Region of the United States. Amazing to see him switch gears and go from bad-ass outlaw to solid citizen in the way he presented himself to the customer. Anyway, I don't think anyone can lay the blame for the dealerships that are closing at the feet of the guy on the floor working on commission. Personally, I feel between the arrogance of the MoCo itself and the hubris of many dealership owners, coupled with GM's working from a one size fits all business plan offered up by the MoCo, this was an implosion waiting to happen. No real difference between what's gone on at GM and H-D so far as I see
Title: Harley Dealer Closings
Post by: scottt on December 26, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
I was saddened to learn Christmas Day, my favorite Harley dealer was closing down. The owner has three dealerships in the Sacramento Valley, they are closing two. Four years ago The Sacramento, California Valley had 7 dealerships, now we have 2. We have fewer dealers now than we had when I started riding a Harley, 1989. I think times are changing. Harley's are not the thing everyone wants to own, not a status symbol as it was. This is not all bad, I feel bad for the employees, feel bad for all of us that must travel pretty far to get service. I wonder everyone is seeing the same thing? Sure hope 2010 improves.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on December 26, 2009, 07:11:45 PM
It's not 'just' harley......a lotta pain to go around.  spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BayouBiker on December 26, 2009, 07:36:52 PM
Hartford, WI HD dealership on Hwy 60 recently closed their doors.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Artlee on December 26, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Add
 Littleton Harley Davidson 1341 Whitefield Rd, Bethlehem, NH 03574
to the list. A number of New England HD dealers have taken bits of their bike inventory.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Chains on December 26, 2009, 08:53:54 PM
It is no surprise that our favorate dealers are feeling the pinch as well as the rest of us.  I was in a dealership in Florida back in August that had not sold a new bike in close to 3 months.  Had it not been for clothing sales and a high volume of used bikes, they too would be gone.  I believe a lot of the used bikes they had were purchased from people in need of cash at bargain basement prices.  Yet to be seen if they can survive with such high inventory levels and the economy still weak.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on December 26, 2009, 08:57:05 PM
Hartford, WI HD dealership on Hwy 60 recently closed their doors.

What dealer was this?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Chuck Pryor on December 26, 2009, 08:58:37 PM
Add these to the list...

Harley-Davidson of Rocklin/Amador County and the Guidera Family

Based on declining sales due to the economic slowdown, the Guidera family will be consolidating our 3 dealerships into one location to ensure that our customers continue to receive the best sales and ownership experience possible. Unfortunately, both Harley-Davidson of Rocklin and Harley-Davidson of Amador County are closing. Starting today, all business will be conducted out of our Folsom, CA dealership located at 115 Woodmere Road. The last day of operation in Amador County is December 24th and the last day of operation at Harley-Davidson of Rocklin will be December 30th.

The current business level and overhead cost during this economic recession does not justify having 3 local dealerships open. By moving our key resources to one location we are able to control cost, staff effectively, and concentrate on great customer service. We chose Folsom because we are confident that the facility can support all of our present and future customer needs. The Folsom store has built an outstanding service and sales reputation in 10 years of operation. Its 24 service bays are more than any other store in the area, and we are staffed with factory trained technicians qualified to handle any service job. On top of the great service, Folsom also has superior parts, accessories, and Motorclothes departments and a new motorcycle selection and sales staff, which is second to none. All collision repairs will still be handled at our collision repair facility which is located in Rocklin on 4123 Monopoly Court. As always, you can count on our experienced collision staff to help you every step of the way should you drop your bike or have a major repair claim.

We started this journey by opening our Citrus Heights location in 1976. By 1997 we had outgrown that facility and moved to Rocklin. As Harley-Davidson motorcycle demand continued to grow in the area, we added the Folsom store in 1999. In 2003, the collision repair facility was added in Rocklin, and finally, Harley-Davidson of Amador County joined the line-up in 2007. It has been an amazing ride for the Guidera family to be a part of so many of our customers lives. We have thoroughly enjoyed every minute of opening 3 dealerships in the Sacramento area. However, we have realized that it is time to consolidate, recover, and start a new chapter in this amazing success story. We are very sad to see some of our history fall to the wayside because both the Rocklin and Amador dealerships have meant so much to so many good people. We are fully aware that plenty of challenges lie ahead by consolidating our customer base to Folsom. But we are also excited to forge ahead aboard our Harley-Davidson Motorcycles, the greatest freedom machines on the planet, and with you, the greatest customers in the world.

Victor, Len, Matt, Melissa and Shannon Guidera would like to personally thank our wonderful staff and our amazing customers for all their help and support through the 33 years we have been a Harley-Davidson dealer. We are looking forward to still being here for you and your Harley-Davidson motorcycling needs far into the future.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BayouBiker on December 27, 2009, 08:41:50 AM
What dealer was this?

Not sure what the actual name was, but it was about a mile west of Hwy 83 (Main St) on the south side of Hwy 60.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: CVOJOE on December 27, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
Not sure what the actual name was, but it was about a mile west of Hwy 83 (Main St) on the south side of Hwy 60.

Sounds like Hartford H-D, which was right on Hwy 60 as I recall. Rode to most of them during the 100th Anniversary events, and I think there was a West Bend H-D  there as well. Sad situation.  :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Chuck Pryor on December 27, 2009, 10:01:03 PM
Here's what it looked like at Rocklin HD today... store closing and 50% off everything in the store. JC, Terrie, Jon and Susan I know were there early. Long lines all day. We waited in line TO PAY for 2 hours but it was worth it... picked up a nice pair of lined chaps for my wife for 140 bucks. She also got a nice jacket, some shirts etc. I got some nice sweatshirts for 22 bucks and also 4 point docking hardware for my 09SERG for 70.00

Here's a pic of the crowd... it was nuts.


Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on December 31, 2009, 11:11:37 AM
Riverfront Harley in Lawrence, KS closes today.  All remaining inventory after today will move to the dealership in Topeka.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hogasm on January 04, 2010, 08:38:02 PM
You gotta remember, a lot of dealerships are closing satellite stores still considered dealerships to keep mother dealership alive. This doesn't mean the mother stores are all closing. I know the economy sucks, but folks the more negative we discuss it, the more negative it's gonna get.

As hard as it is,, I'm trying to keep a smile on my face and a positive attitude. Come on folks, i was always told this rubs off...  :nixweiss:

Before the end of 09'...the Mother Ship expected 50 full service dealers to close before the end of the year.....wonder what the tally really was :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on January 04, 2010, 09:04:38 PM
The three dealerships in the Sacramento region that closed recently (Rocklin, Jacson and Elk Grove) while being considered satellite dealerships of another dealership...........they were all three full on dealerships in their own right.  They all sold motorcycles, part, service and motorclothes and were not just t-shirts shops or extended service bays.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hogasm on January 05, 2010, 06:48:09 AM
One way to tell if they are a full dealership is to see if ON THE FLOOR they have a large selection of aftermarket parts and accessories.  :huepfenjump3:

Shop here before the changes was not a full dealership...but had the full service bays...clothes..Harley accessories...but did not have aftermarket. Harley will not let them have aftermarket in view
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: scottt on January 05, 2010, 12:53:56 PM
The Rocklin Dealership in California was a Full Service Dealership, it was the owners first store. They started in Citrus Heights, then moved to a larger store in Rocklin, then moved to a much larger store down the street. This was a "location" that started in 1976 and kept moving up. Now it's gone. The family has one large dealership in Folsom California. I was broken hearted to loose the Rocklin store, I bought my first Harley from this family in 1989. Great people and a real loss to Harley and the biker community. I will support them in Folsom, I hope Harley is able to reopen the Rocklin/Roseville area dealership sometime in the future. I fear the Harley riding community is starting to shrink, the days of huge designer stores is waining, most riders I know wishes Harley dealers would go back closer to their roots, reduce their overhead and become less trendy. I believe our economy has made a major change and it's not going back to the go, go days anytime soon. Most riders have a bike they are happy with, have the leathers and clothes they need and really can get by just fine without spending a boat load of money at the dealerships. Harley was not built on customers that purchased a new bike every two years and I think it going back to the days of riders keeping their rides. My view...The future belongs to those with low overhead, those willing to provide cost effective service, those with a strong relationship with customers, just like the "good old days". I might be a dinosaur, time will tell.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on January 05, 2010, 01:02:21 PM
I fear the Harley riding community is starting to shrink, the days of huge designer stores is waining, most riders I know wishes Harley dealers would go back closer to their roots, reduce their overhead and become less trendy. I believe our economy has made a major change and it's not going back to the go, go days anytime soon. Most riders have a bike they are happy with, have the leathers and clothes they need and really can get by just fine without spending a boat load of money at the dealerships. Harley was not built on customers that purchased a new bike every two years and I think it going back to the days of riders keeping their rides. My view...The future belongs to those with low overhead, those willing to provide cost effective service, those with a strong relationship with customers, just like the "good old days". I might be a dinosaur, time will tell.
I'm with you on this perspective, Scott.  :2vrolijk_21: spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fired00d on January 05, 2010, 03:10:33 PM
The Rocklin Dealership in California was a Full Service Dealership, it was the owners first store. They started in Citrus Heights, then moved to a larger store in Rocklin, then moved to a much larger store down the street. This was a "location" that started in 1976 and kept moving up. Now it's gone. The family has one large dealership in Folsom California. I was broken hearted to loose the Rocklin store, I bought my first Harley from this family in 1989. Great people and a real loss to Harley and the biker community. I will support them in Folsom, I hope Harley is able to reopen the Rocklin/Roseville area dealership sometime in the future. I fear the Harley riding community is starting to shrink, the days of huge designer stores is waining, most riders I know wishes Harley dealers would go back closer to their roots, reduce their overhead and become less trendy. I believe our economy has made a major change and it's not going back to the go, go days anytime soon. Most riders have a bike they are happy with, have the leathers and clothes they need and really can get by just fine without spending a boat load of money at the dealerships. Harley was not built on customers that purchased a new bike every two years and I think it going back to the days of riders keeping their rides. My view...The future belongs to those with low overhead, those willing to provide cost effective service, those with a strong relationship with customers, just like the "good old days". I might be a dinosaur, time will tell.
Excellent points and I agree. :2vrolijk_21: During this time when a large percentage of the population is just happy to have money to provide the necessities the extras get cut out. As soon as those "dealers" understand that it's better to eat bologna and cheese and be feed then being of the attitude they have to have surf and turf every night they will be better off...... after all.... bologna and cheese will keep the "missed meal cramps" away... just sayin'.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on January 05, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
Excellent points and I agree. :2vrolijk_21: During this time when a large percentage of the population is just happy to have money to provide the necessities the extras get cut out. As soon as those "dealers" understand that it's better to eat bologna and cheese and be feed then being of the attitude they have to have surf and turf every night they will be better off...... after all.... bologna and cheese will keep the "missed meal cramps" away... just sayin'.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
That 'surf & turf' will bring on an acute case of gout!  :nervous: (don't ask).  :P :drink: spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fired00d on January 05, 2010, 04:23:03 PM
That 'surf & turf' will bring on an acute case of gout!  :nervous: (don't ask).  :P :drink: spyder
Shouldn't have been eating it everyday. :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wheelsnkeels on January 05, 2010, 06:22:11 PM
I was expecting more like Hot dogs and Kraft Macaroni & cheese you can live on it! Jus sayin :nixweiss:
I guess the Hi rollers get Bologna
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fired00d on January 05, 2010, 06:25:46 PM
I was expecting more like Hot dogs and Kraft Macaroni & cheese you can live on it! Jus sayin :nixweiss:
I guess the Hi rollers get Bologna
Was just sayin' about the Bologna and Cheese... No high roller here... I've survived on Ramen Noodles (http://www.nissinfoods.com/topramen/) when needed. ;) :D :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on January 05, 2010, 06:29:47 PM
When I was young and single and on my own, the nice old grandmother that lived next door had a huge tomato garden and chickens.  She would leave me bags of tomato and cartons of eggs.  It is amazing how many tomatos and eggs you can eat when you have little money!   :2vrolijk_21:

(It is also amazing how good fresh eggs taste as compared to store bought eggs!)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SBB on January 05, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
When I was young and single and on my own, the nice old grandmother that lived next door had a huge tomato garden and chickens.  She would leave me bags of tomato and cartons of eggs.  It is amazing how many tomatos and eggs you can eat when you have little money!   :2vrolijk_21:

(It is also amazing how good fresh eggs taste as compared to store bought eggs!)

It's finally happened.
The cold has frozen Scotts brain.
The man needs help.
Anyone have a torch?

 :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

SBB

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RJ749 on January 05, 2010, 06:51:07 PM
It appears there are new owners in Bellingham and the dealership will be named Mt. Baker Harley Davidson.  Had to cost the old guys some money to leave as they had just been hanging on and barely at that, certainly using up their own capital to stay there.

That said, Harley funneled a guy in here from Chicago that had been looking to acquire a dealership.  I can't imagine he'll know that this is half a normal market since we border against Canada and they can't sell over the border without having the wrath of HD come down on them and a new guy isn't going to push it.

I hope they make it but maybe the next buyer will fair better if these guys get the dealership into a better location and invest in a building.  Hard to know what will happen, but I can't see a store selling less than 100 bikes a year making it in this economy.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on March 17, 2010, 09:39:42 AM
I just heard that Pompano Beach HD has closed it's doors as of Monday:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/fl-harley-closure-2-20100315-8,0,1116383.story
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on March 17, 2010, 10:31:17 AM
Following up on that closing AJ, what's the thought on the harley stock running up.....rumors of a 'buy-out' and such?  :nixweiss: spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on March 17, 2010, 10:17:45 PM
HD is obviously doing a great job! Stock price is up which makes stock holders happy. I only wish Miker & I bought more stock when it was down around $14 a share.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RJ749 on March 17, 2010, 11:11:31 PM
HD is obviously doing a great job! Stock price is up which makes stock holders happy. I only wish Miker & I bought more stock when it was down around $14 a share.

Don't you think the rise is mostly just riding the up market.  Ford is over $13.00, up from $1.50 and I didn't get in on it until $6.00. 

I hadn't heard the buyout rumor Spydglide.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JeffsHogPen on March 20, 2010, 09:41:06 AM
The Shreveport Harley Davidson Store Closed. Moved Everything over to Bossier City Harley Davidson. Another One Bites the dust. I sure hate to see them dropping. Tough times indeed. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 49445CVO on March 20, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
HD is obviously doing a great job! Stock price is up which makes stock holders happy. I only wish Miker & I bought more stock when it was down around $14 a share.

Wish I bought it a year ago when it was $9.00 a share. I did get some at $16.75. Maybe it will dip again?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on March 20, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
...I hadn't heard the buyout rumor Spydglide.


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Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Ultra2010 on March 21, 2010, 01:55:44 PM
In areas where more than one dealer closed, or areas with only a few dealerships and one closed, the shop wait times and rates are gong to be more challenging, not like that is anything new.   
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: VINNYHD on March 26, 2010, 08:30:21 PM
YOU CAN ADD BROOKLYN HARLEY DAVIDSON TO THE LIST...AFTER 40YEARS IN BROOKLYN, 25 AT THE SAME LOCATION, THEY ARE DONE.. CAME & TOOK THE BAR AND SHIELD LOGO RITE OFF THE POLE. 100+  LOYAL HOG MEMBERS ARE WITHOUT THERE CHARTER...STARTING OUR OWN FAMILY RUN RIDING CLUB, AMA SPONSORED. THEY ARE STILL OPEN, BUT UNDER BROOKLYN MOTORCYCLE.NO NEW BIKES, JUST USED..I'VE BEEN A MEMBER AT HOG FOREVER, KINDA SAD TO SEE ALL THESE NICE PEOPLE SCRAMBLING.HOPE ALL OUR BENEFIT RIDES COME WITH THE NEW CLUB... :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JoMo on March 27, 2010, 07:47:28 PM
Vinny I heard about the closing of Brooklyn HD. That was a sad thing.

                                          Jo Mo NYC  :coolblue:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: VINNYHD on March 28, 2010, 10:23:27 AM
YEA JO, SAD STUFF... THE NEXT TIME WE COME TO ONE OF YOUR HOG BENEFIT RIDES, WE'LL BE ANOTHER  CLUB.. ONE PATCH, SAME RULES, SAME FAMILY.. I'VE BEEN RIDING WITH SOME OF THESE LADIES AND MEN FOR 20 YEARS, WE ALL AGREE TO TRY AND STAY TOGETHER..REAL TUFF LOOKING AT THE PICS," LIKE THE RIDE FOR A CURE". BREAST CANCER RIDE... YOURS AND OURS... HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU AND YOURS.. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JoMo on March 28, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
Hey Vinny,
 I'm glad that y'all will stay together I met a few of your guys during the motorcycle show at the Javits Center,
really nice group  :2vrolijk_21: I was looking for you that day.
Good luck on your new venture, and let me know what the new name will be so that if I see the group I can introduce
myself and maybe finally meet you LOL.
This coming Saturday NYC HD is having it's first time ever bike blessing. Free food entertainment if you are interested,
sure would like to see you and your group there.

                                         Jo Mo NYC  :coolblue:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: VINNYHD on March 28, 2010, 01:30:40 PM
THANKS JO, I'LL CHECK WITH THE REST OF THE OFFICERS AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR APRIL 3... RIDE SAFE:)  PS OUR FINAL SPONSORED BENEFIT WILL BE OUR BIKE BLESSING ON APRIL 24... YOU ARE ALL WELCOME.....
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JoMo on March 28, 2010, 10:47:03 PM
Thank you Vinny.

            Jo Mo NYC  :coolblue:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: VINNYHD on March 31, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
HEY JO, SEE YOU SATURDAY WITH THE REST OF THE CHAPTER.... :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: copbike 02 on April 01, 2010, 12:15:29 AM
Pennsylvania's oldest Harley-Davidson dealer, Cerini Harley-Davidson/Buell was established in 1920. Cerini Harley-Davidson/Buell specializes in Harley-Davidson/Buell sales and service as well as Lehman Trike sales and serviceCLOSED

http://www.donorahog.org/
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: UFO_HOG on April 01, 2010, 12:39:39 AM
What's really sad is one of our local HD Dealerships, one of the oldest Matthews HD in Fresno applied to expand their store and HD told them they would not approve it unless they moved from the area they have been in since the 50's.  What is the world coming to, you own a piece of property try to grow your business, put some money into it and the Mother Company says NO you have to move.

They have worked things out with MoCo and will be staying put and expanding their current building.

Also heard, the MoCo Museum will be honoring Harold Matthews this summer.

We forgot another Cali location that has fallen.... Santa Cruz HD
Title: Closed dealerships...
Post by: Grizzly on April 11, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
As we all know many dealerships have closed in the past year or so.  Although there is a thread on this site that lists many of them, one wonders if that is all of them???  I wonder how quick the MoCo updates their website listing?  Not too quick I bet and no doubt the 2010 Touring Hand Book is out of date as well!

With a new touring season upon us, I think it would be very useful if this site had a section strictly for the purpose of listing all closed dealerships... No chatter, just a list that we could use to update our Tour Books prior to heading out of a trip.  :2vrolijk_21:

It would be useful information, especially if anyone was in need of assistance while on the road and wanted to know where the closest dealer was located, rather than waisting time traveling to a closed down dealership.  That would certainly be a drag!

So, what do you think?  Is this possible?

Does anyone else feel the same way?

 :nixweiss:

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: donald p on April 12, 2010, 11:22:27 AM
Do Not depend on your H-D GPS my 09 brought me to the old ,nonexistent and miles away.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on April 12, 2010, 11:25:26 AM
Do Not depend on your H-D GPS my 09 brought me to the old ,nonexistent and miles away.

I never depend on a GPS for anything!  That's just one more reason why I think a complete list of closed delarships would be very helpful for us to update our Touring Hand Books.
Title: Re: Closed dealerships...
Post by: JCZ on April 14, 2010, 09:01:22 AM
As we all know many dealerships have closed in the past year or so.  Although there is a thread on this site that lists many of them, one wonders if that is all of them???  I wonder how quick the MoCo updates their website listing?  Not too quick I bet and no doubt the 2010 Touring Hand Book is out of date as well!

With a new touring season upon us, I think it would be very useful if this site had a section strictly for the purpose of listing all closed dealerships... No chatter, just a list that we could use to update our Tour Books prior to heading out of a trip.  :2vrolijk_21:

It would be useful information, especially if anyone was in need of assistance while on the road and wanted to know where the closest dealer was located, rather than waisting time traveling to a closed down dealership.  That would certainly be a drag!

So, what do you think?  Is this possible?

Does anyone else feel the same way?

 :nixweiss:

This was the thread that you were/are referring to......but then people started posting chit chat like your post here............. :huepfenlol2:

Just funnin with you Grizz :2vrolijk_21:

Hard 10 was editing the first post of this thread to reflect that list however, he hasn't edited it since Jan.  If somebody has the time to go through all 8 pages to make a list and PM it to me, I'll edit the first post to reflect all the stores.

But I've learned when I'm on the road, before I set out to go to a dealership I call them first, just to make sure they're still there. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Closed dealerships...
Post by: Grizzly on April 14, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
This was the thread that you were/are referring to......but then people started posting chit chat like your post here............. :huepfenlol2:

Just funnin with you Grizz :2vrolijk_21:

Hard 10 was editing the first post of this thread to reflect that list however, he hasn't edited it since Jan.  If somebody has the time to go through all 8 pages to make a list and PM it to me, I'll edit the first post to reflect all the stores.

But I've learned when I'm on the road, before I set out to go to a dealership I call them first, just to make sure they're still there. :2vrolijk_21:

You sure are a funny guy JC!  A real regular riot!!!  ;D

I know exactly what you're saying.

Just so you know, I actually started a separate thread so I wouldn't "muddy the waters" on this one, but unfortunately it was mysteriously moved/joined to this anyway due to the relationship.

I'm just thinking a LIST ONLY would be helpful and I applaud you for your assistance... Considering that I am the one who asked for it, as soon as I get a little time to sort through the 8 pages, I will do as you suggest and PM you with the updated list.

Hopefully then that list can simply be added to without all this darn chatter... OK, I'll shut up now and get to work on this lovely little project you've come up with for me to fill my spare time, when I should be out riding!

 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Closed dealerships...
Post by: JCZ on April 14, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
You sure are a funny guy JC!  A real regular riot!!!  ;D

I know exactly what you're saying.

Just so you know, I actually started a separate thread so I wouldn't "muddy the waters" on this one, but unfortunately it was mysteriously moved/joined to this anyway due to the relationship.

I'm just thinking a LIST ONLY would be helpful and I applaud you for your assistance... Considering that I am the one who asked for it, as soon as I get a little time to sort through the 8 pages, I will do as you suggest and PM you with the updated list.

Hopefully then that list can simply be added to without all this darn chatter... OK, I'll shut up now and get to work on this lovely little project you've come up with for me to fill my spare time, when I should be out riding!

 :2vrolijk_21:

I can relate.....kind of like being a moderator.....the pay is lousey and the job sucks! :(  But actually, I didn't come up with the project of a list of closed dealerships.  You did.....I just volunteered to help you with it. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Closed dealerships...
Post by: Grizzly on April 14, 2010, 09:38:52 PM
I can relate.....kind of like being a moderator.....the pay is lousey and the job sucks! :(  But actually, I didn't come up with the project of a list of closed dealerships.  You did.....I just volunteered to help you with it. :2vrolijk_21:

Thanks JC.  I do appreciate the help... I'm working on my part as we speak.

Take care,
Grizzly
Title: Re: Closed dealerships...
Post by: JCZ on April 14, 2010, 10:24:54 PM
Thanks JC.  I do appreciate the help... I'm working on my part as we speak.

Take care,
Grizzly

 :2vrolijk_21:           :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on April 14, 2010, 11:32:19 PM
Thanks to Grizzly for reading through eight pages of this thread and compiling the list of dealership to bring it current

There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:

Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City, KS

Doyles HD in Roseburg, Oregon

Wilwert's HD Dubuque, Iowa

San Juan Capistrano Harley, CA

Birds of Prey HD Caldwell, Idaho

Hangtown Harley in Placerville, CA

Pineda HD in Melbourne, FL (merged w/ Space Coast)

**edited**
HD of Amador     Amador       CA
Auburn HD     Auburn       CA
Elk Grove HD   Elk Grove  CA
Jacson HD   Jacson   CA
HD of Rocklin   Rocklin   CA
The Ridge HD   Lake Wales   FL
Pompano Beach HD   Pompano Beach   FL
Riverfront HD   Lawrence   KS
Shreveport HD   Shreveport   LA
Outerbanks HD   Elizabeth City   NC
Littleton HD   Bethlehem   NH
Brooklyn HD   Brooklyn   NY
Dick's HD   Rome   NY
Roeder's HD   Sandusky   OH
Cerini HD      PA
Hartford HD   Hartford   WI
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on April 16, 2010, 12:03:41 AM
Thanks to Grizzly for reading through eight pages of this thread and compiling the list of dealership to bring it current


Thank goodness someone else read through all 8 pages of this!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: WestCoastRuss on April 16, 2010, 12:47:25 AM
The bad news is.......there 'will' be more than 8 pages.........
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Ultra2010 on April 16, 2010, 10:58:39 AM
I heard Shumate in Spokane also closed, have not verified it.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
I heard Shumate in Spokane also closed, have not verified it.

All the Shumate stores (Spokane, Lewiston, Tri Counties and Walla Walla) appear to be rolled up in the same bankruptcy proceeding:

http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-law-courts-tribunals/14087719-1.html
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Rooster on April 16, 2010, 12:06:29 PM
George Latus used to own the Spokane store but now has new location in Gladstone. I stopped in a couple of days ago and noticed the shelves were pretty bare compared to last year. Lots of salesmen. They still are selling above MSRP but wonder how long that will last. Saw a Blue 07 like mine with 10k and mostly stock for 28995. and a New Citrus with no price tag. HMMM.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wanna ride on April 16, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
I don't want to say the name of the specific dealer... but I noticed an area dealer last week that looked like their walls and shelves were pretty scarce. About 1/3rd the chrome and accessories they usually have on the walls.

But then again this particular dealer charges $1 for dip-dots. That crap ticks me off. Buy hundreds and hundreds in parts, oil, filters, etc every year, and pay a dollar for a twenty cent freebie. Las Vegas HD charges two bucks for them!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 12:21:37 PM
I don't want to say the name of the specific dealer...

If not going to put a name on the subject why waste the bandwidth and storage to refer to it at all?  Had no problem mentioning Las Vegas HD later in the same post. No one learns anything from random undocumented almost-references.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wanna ride on April 16, 2010, 12:32:57 PM
Because LVHD rips off their customers... period. I have several friends that live there and refuse to buy their bikes/parts from them. The local dealership I was referring to does not behave this way, with the exception of charging for dip-dots.

It was merely a statement of what appears to be a potential slump for a local dealership. Or maybe just an observation. Isn't that what we do here? Share info?

But this small dealership has served members of this board. So out of respect, I will not name them. If they announce a closing, then I would certainly share the news. If it's so upsetting to you, or you feel it's wasted bandwidth, then delete the damn post, comrade.

Wow... 34220 posts. Are you sure none of those were wasted bandwidth? Not even one?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on April 16, 2010, 12:35:02 PM
I don't want to say the name of the specific dealer... but I noticed an area dealer last week that looked like their walls and shelves were pretty scarce. About 1/3rd the chrome and accessories they usually have on the walls.

But then again this particular dealer charges $1 for dip-dots. That crap ticks me off. Buy hundreds and hundreds in parts, oil, filters, etc every year, and pay a dollar for a twenty cent freebie. Las Vegas HD charges two bucks for them!

Appreciate you not mentioning the name.....this thread is for those that are closing or have closed.  A number of dealerships have cut way back on stock....even in large metropolitan areas.  I was at San Jose last weekend and it looks like a ghost town in there.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 01:45:02 PM
Because LVHD rips off their customers... period. I have several friends that live there and refuse to buy their bikes/parts from them. The local dealership I was referring to does not behave this way, with the exception of charging for dip-dots.

It was merely a statement of what appears to be a potential slump for a local dealership. Or maybe just an observation. Isn't that what we do here? Share info?

But this small dealership has served members of this board. So out of respect, I will not name them. If they announce a closing, then I would certainly share the news. If it's so upsetting to you, or you feel it's wasted bandwidth, then delete the damn post, comrade.

Wow... 34220 posts. Are you sure none of those were wasted bandwidth? Not even one?

Most, actually.  But I've never talked about what I then said I wasn't going to talk about then followed that by contradicting myself by mentioning a name all within the same post; friend.  "Comrade" was cute by the way. 

Get pissy if you want.  I asked a question.  You say the dealer is local to you, you say it's a small shop, your location is posted; subtle you're not.  Just don't see the gain to be had from mentioning a dealer practice or circumstance with anecdotal or circumstancial references without actually mentioning the dealer. 

JC's remarks in the post after yours notwithtanding it's generally been regarded as the practice around here to help each other out with information.  If a dealer closes anyone with gift cards, credits, prepaid service or other instruments in lieu of cash at that dealership lose out.  So it behooves the community to mention a warning if you feel (as you seem to) that there is something worth mentioning.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 01:47:01 PM
Appreciate you not mentioning the name.....this thread is for those that are closing or have closed.  A number of dealerships have cut way back on stock....even in large metropolitan areas.  I was at San Jose last weekend and it looks like a ghost town in there.

As has the local dealership in Joplin (Cycle Connection).  Not nearly so much P&A on the walls as has been the case previously.  It's been that way for months now (and has been mentioned as such for those that might be coming through the area).  I'm not concerned they might close up shop though. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Ghost Rider on April 16, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
As has the local dealership in Joplin (Cycle Connection).  Not nearly so much P&A on the walls as has been the case previously.  It's been that way for months now (and has been mentioned as such for those that might be coming through the area).  I'm not concerned they might close up shop though. 

I have also noticed that they are carrying considerably less clothing at CCHD as well.  I did receive an email from this week touting that "they have the largest selection of 2010 models."  I don't know if that is "largest" in the country, in the state, or just in Joplin.   :nixweiss:  :huepfenlol2:  They have 117 2010's in stock.

Every time I go out there the parking lot is full (of cars) and yet the store is always empty.   :confused5:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on April 16, 2010, 03:05:47 PM
Appreciate you not mentioning the name.....this thread is for those that are closing or have closed.  A number of dealerships have cut way back on stock....even in large metropolitan areas.  I was at San Jose last weekend and it looks like a ghost town in there.

San Jose Harley-Dvidson is in the process of being sold, new owners just took the dealership over.  Parts are coming in and so are motorcycles.  Should be exciting for the market as dealership has been struggling for awhile. :)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Screamin on April 16, 2010, 03:14:52 PM
Roeders in Sandusky, Ohio will be opening under new ownership. It will be located in the existing Roeder's building on USR 250 (Milan Road) and be called "Mad River H. D.". Their stated goal is to be open by Ohio Bike Week which begins June 4. The owners of this new shop are the same as those that own Adventure H. D. in Dover, OH.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/articles/2010/04/13/front/iq_961446.txt
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on April 16, 2010, 03:43:59 PM
San Jose Harley-Dvidson is in the process of being sold, new owners just took the dealership over.  Parts are coming in and so are motorcycles.  Should be exciting for the market as dealership has been struggling for awhile. :)

Who bought it?  I heard that HOT (Morgan Hill) was going to buy it but the owner was playing hard ball to the point where it's now going to go back to the MoCo. :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Hotrod50 on April 16, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
What's a dip dot?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fired00d on April 16, 2010, 06:51:36 PM
What's a dip dot?
Similar to this...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!Bq9GDFg!2k~$(KGrHqYH-CIEuh4buWwdBL)mkS!j6!~~_3.JPG)

I've seen them in metal, plastic, etc...

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on April 16, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Who bought it?  I heard that HOT (Morgan Hill) was going to buy it but the owner was playing hard ball to the point where it's now going to go back to the MoCo. :nixweiss:

Same owners that had it in the 90's.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 10:40:37 PM
Roeders in Sandusky, Ohio will be opening under new ownership. It will be located in the existing Roeder's building on USR 250 (Milan Road) and be called "Mad River H. D.". Their stated goal is to be open by Ohio Bike Week which begins June 4. The owners of this new shop are the same as those that own Adventure H. D. in Dover, OH.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/articles/2010/04/13/front/iq_961446.txt

That's good news.  I'd had some experiences with Roeder's over the years and they'd all been good.  Hopefully the shop comes back with some of that same flavor.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
What's a dip dot?

Little round advertising emblem commonly stuck on the top of the oil dipstick.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on April 16, 2010, 10:48:47 PM
Little round advertising emblem commonly stuck on the top of the oil dipstick.

Hence the nickname.....dipdot......   ::)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fired00d on April 16, 2010, 10:51:14 PM
Little round advertising emblem commonly stuck on the top of the oil dipstick.
Funny I've never seen one stuck on you?? oh wait... you said dipstick.. not dipchit. ;) :D ;D :D ;D

Sorry that was just to easy... welcome home. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 10:51:57 PM
Funny I've never seen one stuck on you?? oh wait... you said dipstick.. not dipchit. ;) :D ;D :D ;D

Sorry that was just to easy... welcome home. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


Hey, that's Dipchit (capital D, dammit)!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fired00d on April 16, 2010, 10:54:59 PM

Hey, that's Dipchit (capital D, dammit)!
I stand (really sitting) corrected. :znotworthy: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 10:56:09 PM
I stand (really sitting) corrected. :znotworthy: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Excellent 8) .
Title: one more down
Post by: charlie on May 17, 2010, 03:39:11 PM
Today Stone Mountain Harley Davidson closed there doors, it came as one heck of a surprise, I went in on Saturday to make a appointment for Tuesday and they took it down, I went to day to drop my bike off and they were moving every thing out, they said they were joining the two dealers together Granite and Stone Mountain, it sucks because the dealer ship was 5 min. from my house.
Title: Another One Bites the Dust
Post by: electraglideclyde on May 17, 2010, 05:44:59 PM
 I just got an email today that Stone Mountain HD in Lilburn, Ga {Atlanta}. is closing.  They are consolidating with their store in Conyers. {Granite Mountain HD}. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on May 17, 2010, 07:13:39 PM
... uh, must be an echo!  :nixweiss:

 ;D
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: bknerr on May 19, 2010, 09:28:53 AM
new dealer in nc, shallotte hd on 17 just north of sc/nc state line. they had a bar upstares. never saw that before. big place out in the country.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RidinRuby on June 09, 2010, 02:01:12 PM
Just called Golden Gate Harley in Corte Madera, CA, to inquire about some parts. They answered their phone "Hello,  this is Theresa". When I asked for the parts department she said that they were closed, when I ask what time they would be open she said " No, we are closed, closed. As of last night we are closed" She went on to say how hard it was on everyone there.  :-\ 

I feel bad for all the folks I have dealt with over the years, but I had actually stopped getting my service work done there a couple of years ago. They had a high rate of turnovers with there techs and seemed a bit confused.

Fortunately I live close to Metal Dragon , Jim's shop, and he now does all the work on my scoot. I highly recommend Jim to any one who has a need for work  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: retired_colonel on August 02, 2010, 05:17:18 PM
All the Shumate stores (Spokane, Lewiston, Tri Counties and Walla Walla) appear to be rolled up in the same bankruptcy proceeding:

http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-law-courts-tribunals/14087719-1.html

Shumate in Spokane, Wa; Kennewick (Tri-Cities), Wa; and Lewiston, Id are definitely done...Walla Walla, WA was a small planned satellite of the Kennewick dealership that never really got established.  In early July, I spoke to the H-D district manager who stated that the 'good news' was that new owners for the Kennewick and Spokane franchises would be annonced soon, once approved by the courts.  He actually said by July 31st...so you would think we would know something soon.....or not!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Joelgonia on August 05, 2010, 11:42:04 PM
Hard to tell why some of these shops are closing -- Maybe the new "look" with expanded retail area and high traffic locations are too expensive, at least with the sales down?  Or is it lack of customer service and incompetent maintenance staff?  Or maybe with the average rider age around 48, most of the Boomers already bought our Harley and the younger riders haven't come on board.  Hell, maybe it's just the damn economy.

Regardless, Louisville Harley (part of a multiple franchise ownership) bought out the local BMW dealer and merged operations -- Good service dept and reasonable sales.  Also own Bowling Green HD and some automotive dealerships, so I'm told.  Bluegrass HD in Louisville is questionable -- Local gossip has the dealership for sale, though not officially confirmed by anyone I know.  Interesting -- After several years of HOG sponsorship, Bluegrass HD would not continue for 2010, thus forcing the Chapter to reorganize under the AMA.  Go figure -- Amidst all the above concerns and difficulties, they basically told 100 of their most loyal customers to walk.

Louisville has become the 16th largest city in the country, so we should support (2) dealers, so they remain profitable.  But at least one may not make it -- If anyone hears anything official, I'd appreciate an FYI
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: skreminegul07 on August 10, 2010, 04:50:33 PM
Aldo's in Bernardston, MA. is closing.  Believe it or not, Yankee Candle bought the building.  Their HQ is nearby.  Aldo's is not relocation, everything is on sale.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: acevtwin on August 16, 2010, 03:56:57 PM
Add American Harley Davidson in Ann Arbor Michigan to the list. They canned all their employee's at closing time on Saturday.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: napalm on August 17, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
HD stated at their recent dealer meeting that there would about 200 less dealers this year!!!

napalm
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Cvostu on August 18, 2010, 01:19:22 AM
looks like that's a happenin'. The "stealers" don't make it easy for themselves at all..The things that I have seen and read give them a really bad name and most would rather do it themselves or try almost anyplace else for service. We know that when we take out bike in, we are rolling the dice and hoping that they do what they are asked to do and not make things worse or damaging anything. Kind of what goes around, comes around. This is a rather expensive hobby, they should remember that when we show up a give them "work".   Don'tcha think??? :nixweiss:  Do it right and be fair.  That's all.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SE-Dave on August 18, 2010, 11:16:19 AM
Mill's Harley Davidson in Burlington N.J. Closed it's Doors July 31, 2010. They have been Family Owned and Operated since 1958.......  :coolblue: ...........I think Hannum's is in the mix for picking up the Franchise
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Keats on August 18, 2010, 12:28:49 PM
I did not see it posted,

Millville HD closed in May and it's satellite in Wildwood HD closed.
They were building a new store in Vineland which obviously stopped construction.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: skippy on August 18, 2010, 08:43:06 PM
One of the best dealers in the southeast announced it will close for good after serving the Carolina's for 20 plus years Carolina HD Gastonia NC  made the decision public today. Clic and Dian Baldwin built the dealership from nothing to a mega dealership .Clic Baldwin was killed in 2008 on his way from the dealer show to Sturgis . Dian has held on ,but with the current economy  she is forced to close . The Motor Company has also decided to retire the dealership # . This is bad news for the HD owner in the Charlotte NC area  ,CHD was a top notch dealer that stould behind their service and sales and will be greatly missed. In my opinion the Motor Co. should have closed one of the other local dealers and found someone to take the Carolina HD dealership.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: DavidB on August 19, 2010, 10:37:47 AM
One of the best dealers in the southeast announced it will close for good after serving the Carolina's for 20 plus years Carolina HD Gastonia NC  made the decision public today. Clic and Dian Baldwin built the dealership from nothing to a mega dealership .Clic Baldwin was killed in 2008 on his way from the dealer show to Sturgis . Dian has held on ,but with the current economy  she is forced to close . The Motor Company has also decided to retire the dealership # . This is bad news for the HD owner in the Charlotte NC area  ,CHD was a top notch dealer that stould behind their service and sales and will be greatly missed. In my opinion the Motor Co. should have closed one of the other local dealers and found someone to take the Carolina HD dealership.

I really hate to hear this.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: valdostagaflhxse on August 21, 2010, 09:40:11 AM
Just announced that Albany HD in Georgia will be closing and consolidating into what was the satellite shop in Tifton, GA
Tifton is in process of a huge expansion which will make it a must stop along I-75 in Georgia.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Lucky88 on August 26, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
Add another to the list. Just got word today Peninsula Harley Davidson in Redwood City CA. is closing their doors next Tuesday.
 I place an order for a new bike yesterday and they had to return my deposit today.  :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: VANAMAL on August 27, 2010, 02:15:13 PM
santa barbara harley
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: CVOJOE on August 29, 2010, 07:18:31 PM
Peninsula H-D (Redwood City, CA) opened back in 1975, and really treated their customers right. Damn shame to see yet another good dealership go under.  :'(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: super villan on August 30, 2010, 08:32:33 PM
Is the MoCo telling these places to close? Or is it just the owners racking-up alot of debt? Why dont they just sell the franchise so it stays open? :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on August 31, 2010, 02:51:56 AM
because you can not sell the franchise without MoCo approval of the new owner. And this is a very painfull procedure.

Usually Harley prefers to install a new dealership instead of having the old one sold and presently they want to get rid of a large percentage of shops anyway.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: skreminegul07 on August 31, 2010, 08:17:02 AM
Target is 500 dealers in the US, was 700. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on August 31, 2010, 08:44:46 AM
Is the MoCo telling these places to close? Or is it just the owners racking-up alot of debt? Why dont they just sell the franchise so it stays open? :nixweiss:

When the owner of Harley Davidson of Sacramento was closing the Elk Grove dealership last year, their email said that the MoCo has asked all owners that had more than one store front in the same regional area to close their additonal stores over the next year.

The owner of Twin Falls owns a number of dealerships in Idaho, Arizona and Reno.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on August 31, 2010, 11:58:21 AM
Is the MoCo telling these places to close? Or is it just the owners racking-up alot of debt? Why dont they just sell the franchise so it stays open? :nixweiss:

Difficult to sell a business that is losing money.  Harley will be replacing some markets where the dealer goes away, but most are being put on indefinite hold as the MoCo tries to right size the amount of dealers.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on August 31, 2010, 12:03:17 PM
When the owner of Harley Davidson of Sacramento was closing the Elk Grove dealership last year, their email said that the MoCo has asked all owners that had more than one store front in the same regional area to close their additonal stores over the next year.

The owner of Twin Falls owns a number of dealerships in Idaho, Arizona and Reno.  :nixweiss:

I know that's what Jay said, but that's not true.  Harley has pointed out to many dealers with more than one store front in the same market that the current level of business does not support this.  However, most of these dealers don't need to hear from the MoCo what their bottom line is already telling them.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ice6900 on August 31, 2010, 12:12:39 PM
The Foundery in Kent England is apparently being shut down, because it was selling alot of bikes new or used into Germany and Belgium while the £/€ exchange rate has been in favour, the european delaership caught wind of the trend and they complained to MOCO................
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on August 31, 2010, 07:03:18 PM
Foundry (http://www.robinsonsfoundry.co.uk/harley_davidson/pages/harley_davidson/the-foundry.htm) got victimized already some weeks ago - for several reasons according to gossip ;)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Keats on August 31, 2010, 07:55:50 PM
Foundry (http://www.robinsonsfoundry.co.uk/harley_davidson/pages/harley_davidson/the-foundry.htm) got victimized already some weeks ago - for several reasons according to gossip ;)


Do they sell the "Right hand drive" models for the English consumption?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wheelsnkeels on August 31, 2010, 09:19:20 PM
American Harley Davidson Ann Arbor Michigan closed/Merged with Brighton Crossroads HD Brighton Michigan

some and inventory absorbed by the renamed American Brighton HD in Brighton apparently took place Aug 16th. Got a message from the Gen Manager at American today.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Robmay on August 31, 2010, 09:50:05 PM
Just announced that Albany HD in Georgia will be closing and consolidating into what was the satellite shop in Tifton, GA
Tifton is in process of a huge expansion which will make it a must stop along I-75 in Georgia.

Just saw that when I went by there this past Saturday. Going to be twice the size it seemed from the Highway!

How many dealerships are in the USA anyway??
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Ghost Rider on September 01, 2010, 01:51:09 PM
How many dealerships are in the USA anyway??

Couldn't find a solid answer, but it seems to be in 850 range.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ice6900 on September 01, 2010, 02:52:36 PM


Do they sell the "Right hand drive" models for the English consumption?

Actually in ENGLAND all the dealers sell bikes that are capable of showing either Km or Miles on the speedo, which is something some of us European riders would like as some of us travel to England sometimes, which really sucks having to check and convert speed limits and distances all the time
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: J-Carr on September 02, 2010, 01:38:29 PM
I did not see it posted,

Millville HD closed in May and it's satellite in Wildwood HD closed.
They were building a new store in Vineland which obviously stopped construction.
I was at Wildwood two weeks ago.  The store there is still open but it's not a Harley Dealer anymore.  Same owners.  What I hear is that HD corp was pushing them to sell more bikes out of that location.  Since people don't visit the shore to buy a bike, they really couldn't increase their sales of bikes.  Of course they moved tons of shirts and other merchandise and it was great to have a place to get the ole' scoot fixed up if she through a shoe on holiday.  Now if it's warrenty work you need while away at the south Jersey shore you have to head an hour north to Atlantic county.

Ride Safe,
J-Carr
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ice6900 on September 03, 2010, 01:08:55 PM
Going against the closing trend, Harley Zurich welcomes new ownership, and there are two new dealerships opening in Graubunden and in Tessin

http://www.harley-davidson-newsletter.ch/newsletter/20100903d.asp
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on September 04, 2010, 04:04:20 PM
don't forget how many shops closed or kicked out H-D during the last years in D-A-CH, Nigel. In GR it's their third shot now if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing (Bob Dron closes)
Post by: CVOJOE on September 19, 2010, 11:47:37 AM
Bob Dron has decided to retire and will be closing his dealership in Oakland, CA after 40 years as a Harley-Davidson Dealer. Many of us have had major issues with the Dron dealership pricing and service philosophy over the  years, but still sad to see someone pull the plug after 40 years.

The MOCO has given Faultline H-D in Fremont the opportunity to relocate to the newer 4 year old Oakland facility and changing their name to Oakland Harley-Davidson. The Fremont dealership will close on October 3rd and the Faultline management and service crew will open as the new Oakland Harley-Davidson on October 6th.

What will happen to the two separate HOG chapters is still to be determined but looks like the Fremont chapter will remain with the existing sponsorship and the Oakland members will be given membership under the new Oakland dealership. 

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wheelsnkeels on September 19, 2010, 09:50:58 PM
Crete Il, Harley Davidson is closing October 15, 2010 the owner unable to find a buyer is closing and retiring. The Hog chapter is trying to find a home to continue.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on September 19, 2010, 09:59:25 PM
Crete Il, Harley Davidson is closing October 15, 2010 the owner unable to find a buyer is closing and retiring. The Hog chapter is trying to find a home to continue.

If I remember correctly, Chicagoland is one of the top five markets in the country.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ThunderElectraCVO on September 20, 2010, 07:38:45 AM
Crete Il, Harley Davidson is closing October 15, 2010 the owner unable to find a buyer is closing and retiring...

What's the price (for the buyer) ?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wheelsnkeels on September 20, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
What's the price (for the buyer) ?

No Idea but here is the web site with contact info http://www.hdcrete.com/
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wild Card on September 21, 2010, 02:46:14 PM
Crete Il, Harley Davidson is closing October 15, 2010 the owner unable to find a buyer is closing and retiring. The Hog chapter is trying to find a home to continue.

NOOOO!  That's my dealer and I rather enjoyed them over the years.  Really sad to see this one go.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: O4SEGlide on September 22, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
2 More are off the list. Read the Important Announcement at the bottom of the website below.

http://www.hdofgreensboro.com/
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hard10 on September 22, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
2 More are off the list. Read the Important Announcement at the bottom of the website below.

http://www.hdofgreensboro.com/

This is a pretty powerful statement:

"The decision to consolidate operations, due to the effects of the severe recession, is not unlike recent actions taken by Harley-Davidson Motor Company.  Over the past two years Harley-Davidson has consolidated its production operations to effectively adjust to the current economic environment.  In light of the reduced volumes, the Motor Company has been encouraging dealers to consolidate in certain markets, including central North Carolina.

 

With no reasonable end in sight, it is painfully obvious that we must execute the right-sizing to ensure our ability to serve you, our customers, long term in the manner in which we feel you should expect and have become accustomed."
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: grc on September 28, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Crete Il, Harley Davidson is closing October 15, 2010 the owner unable to find a buyer is closing and retiring. The Hog chapter is trying to find a home to continue.

That one is shocking to me, as Crete was by far the best of the dealers in this area.  I have no first hand knowledge of the situation, but I do know the owner recently sank a ton of money into expanding his fairly new facility, right before the bottom started to fall out of the economy.  Even back in the 90's when it seemed the majority of Harley dealers were gouging the public for thousands over MSRP, the Crete dealer sold for MSRP and treated his customers well.  He had a friendly, knowledgeable staff in sales, parts and service, unlike some of the others in this area.  He will be missed.


Jerry
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Bandit4142 on October 01, 2010, 08:32:49 AM
Colorado Springs Harley Davidson - Located on Powers Ave. in Colorado Springs,  Closed Sept 21st.     Merging with Pike's Peak Harley Davidson.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on October 05, 2010, 07:15:06 PM
The first dealer in Canada to close, that I know of...

Pooles Harley-Davidson in Hamilton, Ontario is closing October 15th.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: flhse on October 05, 2010, 07:50:21 PM
Gilbert's Harley Davidson in Port Huron, MI closed Sept 30.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 110Mofo on October 06, 2010, 11:10:47 AM
http://www.sbharley.net/


  :nixweiss:

 Marty
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Robmay on October 06, 2010, 02:31:35 PM
http://www.sbharley.net/


  :nixweiss:

 Marty

Wow. That's pretty much to the point!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: super villan on October 07, 2010, 02:40:02 PM
Sad. I bought my FXDSE2 there. They had some cool "scoots' last I checked. Just wondering where the bikes go when a dealer closes shop? :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on October 08, 2010, 12:29:03 PM
Sad. I bought my FXDSE2 there. They had some cool "scoots' last I checked. Just wondering where the bikes go when a dealer closes shop? :nixweiss:

They are offered to other dealerships.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Bubba Love on October 09, 2010, 01:23:39 AM
They are offered to other dealerships.
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The stores in N.C., specifically Greensboro, are consolidating.  Closing High Point (where I live) also Reidsville, N.C. The Greensboro (Mother Store) will remain open.  Bubba Love said that!!!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: casper on October 21, 2010, 09:46:01 PM
Ocean City Maryland dealership closes Oct. 30th. Consolidating with Seaford DE.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: wolfman on November 16, 2010, 11:14:30 AM
Harley-Davidson revs up again in Tri-Cities
By Loretto J. Hulse, Herald food writer
Chrome gleaming, the motorcycles, ATVs and watercraft on the showroom floors of Rattlesnake Mountain Harley-Davidson and RideNow Powersports Tri-Cities are ready for fun.

The doors of the former Shumate Motorsports on the corner of Highway 395 and 19th Avenue in Kennewick have been locked since John M. Shumate filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last year for his dealerships in Tri-Cities, Walla Walla, Spokane and Lewiston.

RideNow Powersports of Tempe, Ariz., recently took over the assets of the dealership and plans to reopen the business at 9 a.m. today.

This is the first RideNow Powersports dealership in the state.

The Kennewick business has two parts. One is the Harley-Davison dealership which sells cycles, accessories and licensed clothing and collectibles. The RideNow Powersports portion sells imported cycles, ATVs, watercraft and accessories. There's also a full service shop and parts department.

Overseeing everything is operating manager Paul Griffith who's been with RideNow Powersports for nearly 19 years.

He will have 30 to 35 employees during the fall and winter, ramping up to 40 to 45 in the spring. Many of them are former Shumate employees.

Griffith said there's been a lot of interest in when the dealership will reopen because the only other Harley dealerships in the area are in Yakima, Wenatchee and Boise.

Right now the businesses are stocked with what was on site when RideNow acquired the dealership but Griffith says that's changing daily as new stock comes in. Plus, if someone doesn't see what they want, Griffith can draw on the resources of over 20 other RideNow stores.

In addition to repairs, the service department also does customizing.

"The average Harley-Davidson rider spends about $3,000 over the purchase price of the bike customizing it, the import riders, not quite as much," Griffith said.

Griffith said the dealership has always been associated with a Harley-Davidson riding group and is working with the Tri-City Hog Chapter.

"In fact we already have the dealership T-shirts in stock," he said.

The retail store is open from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., Monday through Saturday and from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Sunday. The service department is open from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m., Tuesday through



Read more: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/11/16/1254241/harley-davidson-revs-up-again.html#ixzz15Sk0VnNg
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ralscustoms on November 26, 2010, 07:18:09 PM
You can add Crete HD, Crete Illinois They closed earlier this year
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: jamnflhxse2 on November 29, 2010, 08:02:29 PM
You can add Oak Lawn H-D in Oak Lawn, Illinois to the list it was sold to a joint venture between Illinois H-D and Wild Fire H-D. Dealership will be closed and a new dealership ( yet to be named ) will be opened in Countryside, Illinois roughly @ LaGrange and Joliet rd.  This was my Fathers dealership and he  never had any thing bad to say about it.  Sad!!!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wheelsnkeels on December 03, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
Recieved this today in an email
Hey folks,

We all had heard that Harley-Davidson wanted to close more dealerships in Chicagoland, well another one has been announced...Oak Lawn Harley-Davidson will close its doors on December 31st.  It seems the recent buy-out was really a closure in disguise.  For details see http://www.harley-oaklawn.com/aboutus.asp

It's sad to see yet another HOG chapter closed, and the membership pushed out the door to other dealers.  The Oak Lawn HOG members are certainly welcome at Homeless Hawgs...maybe a northern chapter of this south side group is in the making.

There is a store closing sale going on, but I already bought most everything I needed and then some at Crete.  I'm sure there is something else I desperately need though?

Now lets be careful out there!


Gary Stengler
(708) 567-1588
Homeless Hawgs
www.HomelessHawgs.com
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: txhawg on December 03, 2010, 11:57:59 PM
I just received an email today that Black Canyon HD in Montrose, CO is closing.  They are "consolidating" operations in the Grand Junction shop.

I guees my BCHD shirt is now a collectors item!  Uh, sure
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ice6900 on December 10, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
I have just heard that 3dealers in England are about to close there doors before Xmas

Dock Gate 20, in Southampton and Thames Valley HD are from the same ownership of Magic group, Stratstone in Birmingham is also closing

seems to have been bad management and not MOCO pulling the plugs
 
Just had an update from a friend in Oxford HD
Thames valley has closed. Gone bust. Dg20 sold but I am not sure who too. Stratstone have closed stadiumhd but only so they can open a new one in Stoke.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wanna ride on December 18, 2010, 11:29:56 PM
Wow, I haven't visited this thread in a while. I live about 100 miles fro mCrete, and last visited that store in the early summer when they had a big shindig for snap-On that weekend. I bought a t-shirt and one for my daughter too. I got some pics around here somewhere. That was a big building with a lot of bikes, but I have to admit... the sales staff were dicks that day. I always liked the little dealership down in Manteno better.

There's two small dealerships about 15 miles of each direction from me, and I swear I think everytime I walk in both of them, they look like they could close any day.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wheelsnkeels on December 19, 2010, 01:39:07 PM
Jim Bailey's Harley Davidson in Fort Wayne Indiana is now Fort Wayne Harley Davidson and Jim and Marcia are no longer there?
Not sure what the details are with the change in ownership / management.

Never was a place for making a good deal maybe the new owners will be more negotiable?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 110Mofo on December 20, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
I just received an email today that Black Canyon HD in Montrose, CO  is closing.  They are "consolidating" operations in the Grand Junction shop.

I guess my BCHD shirt is now a collectors item!  Uh, sure

 This does not surprise me, Paula and I rode in from Aspen that morning and were excited about being in CO. we were about to ride South on hwy 550 thur Ouray. Every person working there was talking to eachother and had non to little time for any customers not just use. We bought our Shirts and left , I told Paula "this stop was a waste of time"

 BUT : I do have a couple of t-shirts  :huepfenlol2:

 Marty
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wanna ride on December 22, 2010, 11:14:58 PM
I just received an email today that Black Canyon HD in Montrose, CO is closing.  They are "consolidating" operations in the Grand Junction shop.

I guees my BCHD shirt is now a collectors item!  Uh, sure
I visited a shop in Grand Junction back in about '93... I think it was called Old McDonald's Hog Farm or something like that. I don't have the shirt anymore, but it was pretty neat.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Rio on December 23, 2010, 08:46:52 AM
YOU can add American HD in Ann Arbor MI, and I forgot the name, but it was in Crete Illinois.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wanna ride on December 23, 2010, 09:54:35 AM
YOU can add American HD in Ann Arbor MI, and I forgot the name, but it was in Crete Illinois.
I got a shirt from Ann Arbor HD, and the one in Crete was Crete HD.

It's kinda sad what happens to these places. People lose jobs, customers have to travel farther for parts, service and new bikes. The owners, I'm sure, have a rough go at it. What happens to these stores/buildings. I'm sure they're not easy to sell because they are usually pretty elaborate and don't appeal to most businesses looking for real estate.

I mean, I guess it's good to thin the herd, but the fallout is pretty expansive.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sgtbuck on January 06, 2011, 09:13:10 PM
Harley of Vallejo, Ca announced today they are closing, unk when.
Title: Vallejo CA HD is Closing
Post by: Sklywag on January 06, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
This is one where I just simply say what goes around comes around.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on January 07, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
Harley of Vallejo, Ca announced today they are closing, unk when.

Interesting......a windfall for Fairfield and Oakland HD because they'll pick up a majority of the customers.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sgtbuck on January 07, 2011, 11:57:46 AM
Harley-Davidson of Vallejo Announces Dealership Closing
After over 20 years of service, it is with mixed emotion that we announce to our customers, vendors and friends that Harley-Davidson of Vallejo will officially be closing its doors. The downturn of the economy, coupled with factors that caused the inability for the dealership to expand, has unfortunately led Harley-Davidson of Vallejo to make this tough decision.

We are progressively working with Harley-Davidson Motor Company as we transition our staff for the closing of the dealership. Rest assured that we will continue to serve our customers during this process. Please review the following information that our departments have set moving forward:

# All customers’ motorcycles that are currently at our dealership for service work will be 100% completed.
# Our Service Department will only be accepting new service work daily via walk-ins. We ask that you phone us at 707.643.1413 to confirm that your bike can be accommodated.
# While our Parts and MotorClothes Departments will continue to service and carry a working inventory, they will be unable to accept any new special orders.
# We are actively selling New and Pre-Owned motorcycles.

We sincerely appreciate your understanding in regards to the economical hardships that we, along with many businesses are now facing. With that in mind, we believe that a business should only operate at a level that would enrich and benefit customers at the highest standards possible.

It is with great respect, gratitude and thanks that we have for you. We will have further details on upcoming activities that we will be conducting to celebrate our customers. Please watch for additional announcements to come.

Deepest regards from our entire staff at Harley-Davidson of Vallejo.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sgtbuck on January 07, 2011, 04:01:18 PM
Update....Vallejo closing March 1. HD parts in stock 25% off, after market parts in stock 30% off, motor clothes up to 50 % off. Harley made them a deal to close.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cvobiker on January 08, 2011, 01:03:31 AM
Here's a question,,, These dealerships closing all have their Harley sales territory. Once the dealership is gone, what happens to this territory?  :nixweiss: Does Mother Harley leave these open for future franchise purchase?  Or do they divvy it up with nearby stores still in business..   Someday when this economy turns around i can see hords of investors gobbling back up these territories..
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 08, 2011, 07:27:11 AM
Harley-Davidson purposefully diminishes it's dealer network. They want less but stronger dealers worldwide. I doubt they will enlarge again in a better economy. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on January 08, 2011, 04:40:24 PM
Here's a question,,, These dealerships closing all have their Harley sales territory. Once the dealership is gone, what happens to this territory?  :nixweiss: Does Mother Harley leave these open for future franchise purchase?  Or do they divvy it up with nearby stores still in business..   Someday when this economy turns around i can see hords of investors gobbling back up these territories..

When a dealership goes away Harley-Davidson is typically leaving it empty these days and the surrounding dealers territories increase.  They do reserve the right to re-visit the territory if the market warrants, but they know that's not going to happen anytime soon.  There are a few situations in the country where dealer's are not making it, but the market is such that they will be replaced if they fail, but these are few and far between.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 20 gauge on January 08, 2011, 07:07:17 PM
Here's a question,,, These dealerships closing all have their Harley sales territory. Once the dealership is gone, what happens to this territory?  :nixweiss: Does Mother Harley leave these open for future franchise purchase?  Or do they divvy it up with nearby stores still in business..   Someday when this economy turns around i can see hords of investors gobbling back up these territories..

I think a VW has a better chance of winning the Indy 500, than we do seeing this economy recover to the point where investors gobbling anything.   
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: roadrunner on January 11, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
Harley-Davidson of Maryland Closing

http://www.harleydavidsonofmaryland.com/default.asp?page=promo3
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: DOOFUS on January 11, 2011, 12:08:53 PM
This is nuts -- but no shocker. It's nuts because she just built that new building. No shocker because the dc area is loaded with arrogant dealers who never deal. Only one or two really try.

Harley-Davidson of Maryland Closing



http://www.harleydavidsonofmaryland.com/default.asp?page=promo3

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RedDevil on January 11, 2011, 12:23:23 PM
This is nuts -- but no shocker. It's nuts because she just built that new building. No shocker because the dc area is loaded with arrogant dealers who never deal. Only one or two really try.


It's a shame, but doesn't surprise me either.  I think that there will be more closing in the DC area, unless the owners get with the program and realize that the days of charging MSRP and over, are gone.  Some I think, are hoping to weather out the storm and maintain their arrogance by charging up to $5K over MSRP for a CVO.  Even my dealer, which used to be a "take it or leave it" dealer has "seen the light" and will now deal to get you on one of their bikes.  It's not a question of the strong surviving, but the smart.

:devil:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mlb3164 on January 11, 2011, 02:28:02 PM
My local dealer received a 2011 FLHTCUSE6 CVO that they had in the back getting ready for the showroom. After I finished drooling and contemplating trading my 09 FLHTCUSE4 on it I thought of my friend. I told him about the bike and he and his wife stopped by the dealer the very next afternoon perfectly ready to buy. When they arrived they walked around the dealer for a good 20 minutes before anyone spoke to them and they finally had to ask someone where the salesman was.  He has a 2005 Ultra Classic in mint shape with around 45,000 miles he wanted to trade. First off they low balled him on what they could give him for his bike and then told him he would need to bring it in to service for them to go evaluate before they could even make him an offer. After this they said the 2011 was going to be $2,000.00 over MSRP and with all the dealer fluff added on top of that!!!! They said they do this with all their "special CVO" bikes because they are so hard to get. Needless to say they walked out of the dealer with a very bad taste in their mouth. Me and him road to Concord the next day and he saw a Limited that he really liked. Long story short they came off MSRP on this bike, gave him more than he had expected for his 2005 (sight unseen I might add) gave him a $200.00 gift card and 25% off any accessories he wanted. The salesman, sales manager and GM were all super nice and bent over backwards to make his purchase pain free. He is now the proud owner of a 2011 Ultra Classic Limited. My local dealer has no concept of customer service or trying to create any loyalty with patrons. I work in sales and it is all I can do to keep the customers I have in this economy much less win over new ones. I see a bleak future for my local dealer.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SBB on January 11, 2011, 02:41:16 PM
My local dealer received a 2011 FLHTCUSE6 CVO that they had in the back getting ready for the showroom. After I finished drooling and contemplating trading my 09 FLHTCUSE4 on it I thought of my friend. I told him about the bike and he and his wife stopped by the dealer the very next afternoon perfectly ready to buy. When they arrived they walked around the dealer for a good 20 minutes before anyone spoke to them and they finally had to ask someone where the salesman was.  He has a 2005 Ultra Classic in mint shape with around 45,000 miles he wanted to trade. First off they low balled him on what they could give him for his bike and then told him he would need to bring it in to service for them to go evaluate before they could even make him an offer. After this they said the 2011 was going to be $2,000.00 over MSRP and with all the dealer fluff added on top of that!!!! They said they do this with all their "special CVO" bikes because they are so hard to get. Needless to say they walked out of the dealer with a very bad taste in their mouth. Me and him road to Concord the next day and he saw a Limited that he really liked. Long story short they came off MSRP on this bike, gave him more than he had expected for his 2005 (sight unseen I might add) gave him a $200.00 gift card and 25% off any accessories he wanted. The salesman, sales manager and GM were all super nice and bent over backwards to make his purchase pain free. He is now the proud owner of a 2011 Ultra Classic Limited. My local dealer has no concept of customer service or trying to create any loyalty with patrons. I work in sales and it is all I can do to keep the customers I have in this economy much less win over new ones. I see a bleak future for my local dealer.

Quote
My local dealer received a 2011 FLHTCUSE6 CVO

Who is your local dealer?

SBB
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: acevtwin on January 21, 2011, 09:19:23 AM
ABC Harley Davidson in Waterford Mi has the windows covered with paper and the doors Chained shut. I guess they could be remodeling but why chain the doors?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mjb765 on January 21, 2011, 09:44:26 AM
Harley-Davidson of Maryland Closing

http://www.harleydavidsonofmaryland.com/default.asp?page=promo3


Strange--the owner retires and the place closes? Why not sell and keep the buisiness alive?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SBB on January 21, 2011, 09:56:08 AM
Strange--the owner retires and the place closes? Why not sell and keep the buisiness alive?


Selling is much harder than you think.
The Motor Company has to approve the buyer.
The Motor Company has a dealer on a leash and controls more than you can imagine.
The days of anyone with a few million extra chingalings buying into a dealership and making a killing are over.
It's typically a ten mil nut with no guarantee of a big return.
Such is life in the fast lane.

 :nervous:     :nervous:      :nervous:

SBB
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 110Mofo on January 21, 2011, 10:21:46 AM

Selling is much harder than you think.
The Motor Company has to approve the buyer.
The Motor Company has a dealer on a leash and controls more than you can imagine.
The days of anyone with a few million extra chingalings buying into a dealership and making a killing are over.
It's typically a ten mil nut with no guarantee of a big return.
Such is life in the fast lane.

 :nervous:     :nervous:      :nervous:

SBB

 So Chip, You goin in  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on January 21, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
ABC Harley Davidson in Waterford Mi has the windows covered with paper and the doors Chained shut. I guess they could be remodeling but why chain the doors?
Chains on doors looks like receivership.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: IndustryObserver on January 21, 2011, 11:31:31 AM
http://www.hearnburkley.com/EmailCampaigns/FS_TroyHillDrive_7010.pdf
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mjb765 on January 21, 2011, 12:00:00 PM
http://www.hearnburkley.com/EmailCampaigns/FS_TroyHillDrive_7010.pdf

And it's under 6 million dollars!!!!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on January 21, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
http://www.hearnburkley.com/EmailCampaigns/FS_TroyHillDrive_7010.pdf

Well, I guess that clears that up.

Huge price for a big empty building in Michigan.  Michigan has lots of big empty buildings...
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 110tHunDer on January 21, 2011, 12:12:15 PM
Well, I guess that clears that up.

Huge price for a big empty building in Michigan.  Michigan has lots of big empty buildings...

FOR SALE > retail space
Harley Davidson
7010 troy hill dr. elkridge, md 21075

They might, but always thought MD was Maryland. ;)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on January 21, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
And it's under 6 million dollars!!!!
If it comes with about 180 CVOs...it's a he11 of a deal!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on January 21, 2011, 12:27:53 PM
FOR SALE > retail space
Harley Davidson
7010 troy hill dr. elkridge, md 21075

They might, but always thought MD was Maryland. ;)


It's -7 outside right now.....a known contributing factor to brain freeze..... :coolblue:   :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: flhse on January 23, 2011, 07:33:23 PM
ABC Harley Davidson in Waterford Mi has the windows covered with paper and the doors Chained shut. I guess they could be remodeling but why chain the doors?

Interesting way to get publicity.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Jock on January 23, 2011, 08:53:36 PM
Interesting marketing move...Now comes the results of the action...Keep us informed...



Can you tell that my career is in sales and marketing?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on January 23, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
Maybe they got a last minute bail-out and got to open the doors...and the letter is just a cover-up.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: J-Carr on January 26, 2011, 08:55:01 AM
Maybe they got a last minute bail-out and got to open the doors...and the letter is just a cover-up.
Gotta think so.  That's the most bizare marketing move I've ever heard of.  Even for marketing people. And since I work closely with a marketing department I can asure you that they're all bent into the wind north by northwest.  Wierd.

Ride Safe,
JC
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: tazmun on January 27, 2011, 11:48:18 AM
Harley-Davidson of Maryland will host a retirement party Feb. 5 and is set to close permanently Feb. 28.

“The business is closing, in part, due to the down economy,” Tina Ice, 66, who has owned the Elkridge dealership since 1991, plans to retire and move to Wallace, N.C., where she and her husband will build a new home.

“Selling the dealership was an option, but it would have been harder than a retirement, which serves to strengthen the other dealers in the area,” she told Elkridge Patch. There are Harley-Davidson dealers in Essex, Laurel, Annapolis and Frederick.

The dealership is down to 18 employees from a high of 54 several years ago. For the past seven years, the dealer has occupied a 36,000-square-foot, visible from U.S. Route 1. There is speculation that high real estate costs played a role in the dealer’s demise. “Harley wanted her to build this and she did; now it’s closing—very sad,” GM Jack Corbin told the newspaper.


“They needed to move [from their old site] for a long time. Unfortunately, the building they have now has costs that make their overhead very difficult,” says Bob Henig, owner of Bob’s BMW in Annapolis Junction.



Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on February 02, 2011, 03:16:51 AM
Store closings place number of U.S. dealerships at about same level as 2002
 (http://www.jsonline.com/business/114839684.html)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BALIS on February 02, 2011, 04:34:48 AM
Store closings place number of U.S. dealerships at about same level as 2002
 (http://www.jsonline.com/business/114839684.html)
Very interesting article.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Lever on February 02, 2011, 07:28:13 AM
yes a very good article  thanks for sharing
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 02, 2011, 08:12:12 AM
Thanks for sharing.

"We shall overcome!"
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: DavidB on February 02, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
In my doesn`t make a difference opinion.
 The Big H "corp" forced the Little H " Dealers" trade there paid for dealerships for mortgages on massive buildings knowing it would not hurt the BIG H if they failed.  This is what happens when some talking head wants to maximise his corp stock options.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Jerry/MD on February 14, 2011, 03:46:55 PM
Harley-Davidson of Maryland will host a retirement party Feb. 5 and is set to close permanently Feb. 28.

“The business is closing, in part, due to the down economy,” Tina Ice, 66, who has owned the Elkridge dealership since 1991, plans to retire and move to Wallace, N.C., where she and her husband will build a new home.

“Selling the dealership was an option, but it would have been harder than a retirement, which serves to strengthen the other dealers in the area,” she told Elkridge Patch. There are Harley-Davidson dealers in Essex, Laurel, Annapolis and Frederick.

The dealership is down to 18 employees from a high of 54 several years ago. For the past seven years, the dealer has occupied a 36,000-square-foot, visible from U.S. Route 1. There is speculation that high real estate costs played a role in the dealer’s demise. “Harley wanted her to build this and she did; now it’s closing—very sad,” GM Jack Corbin told the newspaper.


“They needed to move [from their old site] for a long time. Unfortunately, the building they have now has costs that make their overhead very difficult,” says Bob Henig, owner of Bob’s BMW in Annapolis Junction.





I'm sure the high overhead played a role...but if they treated other customers the way they did me...then they deserve to be gone. Bought 2 bikes in three months. Was told the 1,000 mile service would be included on the second...then backed-out the day I took delivery.  >:( They did not see me again.......
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Jock on February 14, 2011, 09:27:47 PM
Store closings place number of U.S. dealerships at about same level as 2002
 (http://www.jsonline.com/business/114839684.html)

Thanks for sharing...
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: napalm on February 15, 2011, 04:14:55 PM
H-D satellite store in the Charlotte Airport closed...

But a H-D satellite store opened in Key West on Duval Street...

napalm
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: smenard415 on March 13, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
Greetings,

Didn't read through all the posts but in case no one has reported this: F & S Harley-Davidson in Dayton, Ohio has closed.  They were a long time family run dealership (where I worked for a while) that was very big in flat track racing and sponsored a number of race events.  We sold XR750 parts and there were several people working there that were very knowledgeable in both old and current parts.  Sad to see it go.

They have just in the last week opened up with new ownership under the name Buckeye Harley-Davidson.  I believe the new owners are the same folks who own Thiel's Wheels in Upper Sandusky, Ohio.

All I have right now.

SteveM
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Screamin on April 02, 2011, 01:14:37 PM
Add Liberty Harley Davidson in Boston Heights, OH to the closed list.

http://www.libertyhd.com/
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ice6900 on April 03, 2011, 02:23:21 AM
Is anyone keeping a running total of all the shops that have closed?

Have a look at the list in the first post of this thread, I havent checked every post in this thread to confirm that it up to date, but it appears to have most of the closed USA dealers listed
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: motor1 on April 20, 2011, 07:27:17 AM
Highlands Harley Davidson, Edison NJ, gone, consolidating with Liberty Harley Davidson in Rahway NJ.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ThunderElectraCVO on April 20, 2011, 07:55:20 AM
HD dealerships are closing ?

And the MoCo is looking for new dealers :
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/Becoming_a_Dealer/Dealership_Opportunities.html

 :o
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: HUBBARD on April 20, 2011, 01:01:53 PM
What was it that P.T. Barnum was "supposed" to have said........ one of these is born every minute?   ;)

P.T. said every 30 seconds, and Bailey said, "And 2 to take him."  Later--HUBBARD
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on April 21, 2011, 05:44:24 AM
Is anyone keeping a running total of all the shops that have closed?

We thought you were. :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Keats on April 21, 2011, 03:50:59 PM
HD dealerships are closing ?

And the MoCo is looking for new dealers :
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/Becoming_a_Dealer/Dealership_Opportunities.html

 :o

They need wealthy "Dopes".
Preferable the ones that earned "it" the old fashioned way........They inherited it.

Hard to justify the ROI now, unless you want to ruin a "Hobby".





Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on April 22, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
H-D satellite store in the Charlotte Airport closed...

But a H-D satellite store opened in Key West on Duval Street...

napalm

Yep, I was in the store on duval Street in March during bike week.  Petersons of Miami owns it.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: nashalynn on May 02, 2011, 07:40:15 AM
I heard that Ghost Town Harley closed Saturday.... Their website showes no bikes...

http://www.ghosttownharley.com/default.asp
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: charles05663 on May 02, 2011, 08:08:35 AM
I heard that Ghost Town Harley closed Saturday.... Their website showes no bikes...

http://www.ghosttownharley.com/default.asp

Maybe that is why they are call Ghost Town HD?   :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BPumper on May 03, 2011, 07:52:16 PM
Just heard Yosemite Harley in Merced Calif. has closed.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Guilty on June 02, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Just ran across this today regarding AMC HD in Albany, Oregon...

http://www.amchd.com/default.asp

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

ON JUNE 30th
AMC HARLEY-DAVIDSON IS CLOSING ITS DOORS FOREVER.



Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Rio on June 02, 2011, 05:56:20 PM
 :soapbox: WHAT WILL THIS MEAN TO US:  ARROGANCE, LONGER WAIT TIMES FOR SERVICE, POOR QUALITY WORK...WITH AN "OH WELL" ATTITUDE!  Hopefully for some of us less mechanically inclined, we can find some good quality reliable independent shops!  I have another 14 months, but I think I may just cancel my extended warranty and say screw it!  The local shops convenient to me  SUCK after they closed and merged our closest store!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on June 02, 2011, 06:03:16 PM
:soapbox: WHAT WILL THIS MEAN TO US:  ARROGANCE, LONGER WAIT TIMES FOR SERVICE, POOR QUALITY WORK...WITH AN "OH WELL" ATTITUDE!  Hopefully for some of us less mechanically inclined, we can find some good quality reliable independent shops!  I have another 14 months, but I think I may just cancel my extended warranty and say screw it!  The local shops convenient to me  SUCK after they closed and merged our closest store!

Extended warranty work can be accomplished at an authorized independant shop.....just can't do factory warranty work there.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RetSUBLDO on June 10, 2011, 11:09:10 AM
Just got an e-mail about Tibby's Harley-Davidson in Springfield, Mass closing at the end of June.

http://www.tibbysharley.com/ (http://www.tibbysharley.com/)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on June 10, 2011, 11:22:59 AM
Just got an e-mail about Tibby's Harley-Davidson in Springfield, Mass closing at the end of June.

http://www.tibbysharley.com/ (http://www.tibbysharley.com/)

Are they closing or just dropping the Harley dealership?  The line on their webpage as follows isn't clear on that:

"Tibby's has decided to retire from its position as an authorized Harley-Davidson dealership..."

Any chance they're just going indie?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RetSUBLDO on June 10, 2011, 11:32:25 AM
Are they closing or just dropping the Harley dealership?  The line on their webpage as follows isn't clear on that:

"Tibby's has decided to retire from its position as an authorized Harley-Davidson dealership..."

Any chance they're just going indie?

Good point!  I'll have to do some investigating.

P.S. Closed for good!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ultrafxr on July 07, 2011, 10:11:43 PM
Rumor going around that Willie G's pool boy is making a list and checking it twice of dealerships that are to be put on the chopping block.  Supposedly some will get the news within the next few weeks.  Anyone heard anything?   :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: AXIL on July 07, 2011, 10:39:17 PM
  No, not yet.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hogasm on July 08, 2011, 12:49:45 PM
That is done back door at the dealer meeting
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ultrafxr on July 08, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
That is done back door at the dealer meeting
That is what I figured since it is only a couple weeks away.  But I was wondering if any word had leaked out about what dealerships might be closing.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: C2CRider on July 08, 2011, 01:08:25 PM
Won't be long and out dealership network will be as limited as Honda and BMW!  One of the reasons I am a Harley guy is the network available while I'm on the road! 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on July 08, 2011, 03:21:00 PM
That is done back door at the dealer meeting

So some dealers will come to the meeting but never be allowed to leave ??? ?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Buy early on July 08, 2011, 03:36:33 PM
That is done back door at the dealer meeting

Interesting way to phrase that. Is that lifted from Led Zep or the Doors?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Hotrod50 on July 08, 2011, 04:23:48 PM
Interesting way to phrase that. Is that lifted from Led Zep or the Doors?


Eagles,  Hotel California.    "You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave."
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Buy early on July 08, 2011, 04:33:16 PM

Eagles,  Hotel California.    "You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave."

Oh, I think they want them to leave!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on July 09, 2011, 06:50:58 AM
Oh, I think they want them to leave!
and if they want them to leave, they have their ways to make it happen.  :-X spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on July 09, 2011, 10:29:33 AM
... and to quote The Doors great song,

This is The End, my only friend - The End.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cvobiker on July 09, 2011, 01:23:53 PM
Just got an e-mail about Tibby's Harley-Davidson in Springfield, Mass closing at the end of June.

http://www.tibbysharley.com/ (http://www.tibbysharley.com/)

WOW  --- 55 years in business and gone.....  :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: ice6900 on July 19, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
Less pleasant news from England: Manchester Harley-Davidson closed its doors last week and while there will undoubtedly be speculation regarding the future of St Ledger and Leeds, this could be a strategic closure to protect the group. Newcastle is unaffected as it was sold last year. Update today, St Ledger and Leeds - recently held up by Harley as second best only to Warr's - have closed their doors too, and all staff laid off: Harley have cleared their stuff out. 

No news on whether there are any buyers for any of the shops, but it looks like Summer Retail - the parent group - has gone. Good luck to all those affected.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Buy early on July 19, 2011, 02:17:54 PM
Less pleasant news from England: Manchester Harley-Davidson closed its doors last week and while there will undoubtedly be speculation regarding the future of St Ledger and Leeds, this could be a strategic closure to protect the group. Newcastle is unaffected as it was sold last year. Update today, St Ledger and Leeds - recently held up by Harley as second best only to Warr's - have closed their doors too, and all staff laid off: Harley have cleared their stuff out. 

No news on whether there are any buyers for any of the shops, but it looks like Summer Retail - the parent group - has gone. Good luck to all those affected.

That makes my Manchester HD t-shirt a collectors item!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: acevtwin on July 19, 2011, 02:59:11 PM
looks like All of us are going to end up with "Collectors Item" T-shirts!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing UK
Post by: harleydave on July 29, 2011, 04:48:28 AM
Three Harley dealerships in north of UK close.

More than a dozen jobs have been lost after a high profile motorcycle dealership hit financial problems.

St Leger Harley-Davidson has closed with 15 staff at the showroom being made redundant after its owners went into administration.

The showroom which sold the iconic American bikes, was part of Summer Retail Limited which also has franchise dealerships in Harley Leeds and Harley Stockport, with 44 jobs going across the company as a whole, they were not looking for a buyer for the businesses.

This is very sad news indeed.

 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing UK
Post by: Eqcons on July 29, 2011, 12:24:47 PM
Three Harley dealerships in north of UK close.
 :-X :-X :-X

I have no sympathy for them, Dave. (I do have lots for the guys losing their jobs though!) They - along with all the other dealerships in the UK - sat back and let Harley up the prices TWICE in the middle of a recession.  I bought three CVO Ultras in 3 years, and the price was silly, but bearable.  Last one was £23k. Then they upped the price twice within a few months, and they are now £30k.  There is NO bike in the world worth that, and that's got nothing to do with whether I can afford it or not.  I - and any sane person - will simply not be blatantly ripped off.  These bikes cost more than, for example, a BMW 320d M Sport, and that is simply stupid. Parts likewise - £151.31 (US$248) for each mirror from a CUSE2. What?!?!?  FFS!!  We have paint problems, engine problems, chrome peeling, etc etc. Imagine if you bought one of the BMWs above, and had all those problems?  Nah, the answer is that instead of counting all the money they thought were going to make, the dealerships should have stood up en masse to HD UK, and told them the prices are simply not viable. 

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Keats on July 29, 2011, 01:07:32 PM


One near me is going out................








NAH..... not really

just wishful thinking
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Robmay on July 29, 2011, 05:11:03 PM
Yeah, but the guys that are losing their jobs are the one's that treat you like chit when you go in for service. And the one's that don't deal with the public are the one's that do the chitty work on your bike over and over again. Not always, but that's the rule. There is a reason these dealers are going out....
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harleydave on July 30, 2011, 10:05:52 AM
Jim

I am 100% with you on that one.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: AXIL on July 30, 2011, 05:32:56 PM
Yeah, but the guys that are losing their jobs are the one's that treat you like chit when you go in for service. And the one's that don't deal with the public are the one's that do the chitty work on your bike over and over again. Not always, but that's the rule. There is a reason these dealers are going out....
   
   
   
    You are right on the money.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on August 01, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
I have no sympathy for them, Dave. (I do have lots for the guys losing their jobs though!) They - along with all the other dealerships in the UK - sat back and let Harley up the prices TWICE in the middle of a recession.  I bought three CVO Ultras in 3 years, and the price was silly, but bearable.  Last one was £23k. Then they upped the price twice within a few months, and they are now £30k.  There is NO bike in the world worth that, and that's got nothing to do with whether I can afford it or not.  I - and any sane person - will simply not be blatantly ripped off.  These bikes cost more than, for example, a BMW 320d M Sport, and that is simply stupid. Parts likewise - £151.31 (US$248) for each mirror from a CUSE2. What?!?!?  FFS!!  We have paint problems, engine problems, chrome peeling, etc etc. Imagine if you bought one of the BMWs above, and had all those problems?  Nah, the answer is that instead of counting all the money they thought were going to make, the dealerships should have stood up en masse to HD UK, and told them the prices are simply not viable. 

Jim

well Jim, we pay 36.950 EUR for last year's FLHTCUSE (http://www.harley-dresden.com/index.php?s=harley_bikes&mode=1&submode=0&start=5) - that's some 32.500 GBP. Still some air left for upping your british prices  ;D
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on August 01, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
well Jim, we pay 36.950 EUR for last year's FLHTCUSE (http://www.harley-dresden.com/index.php?s=harley_bikes&mode=1&submode=0&start=5) - that's some 32.500 GBP. Still some air left for upping your british prices  ;D

I spoke with the owner of one of the two Scottish dealerships on Saturday, Hans.  He tells me that the reason UK prices are so high is because, while there is resistance from the dealers in the UK - doing very poor business, because they can't sell at the current prices - to the prices HD are imposing on them, HD's attitude is that they are currently making a fortune in mainland Europe, because the punters there are daft enough to pay even HIGHER prices; thus they will not reduce their UK prices as they know that customers from mainland Europe would want to buy here.  Meanwhile, UK dealership are crippled, and as shown above, are going bust.

Anyone who pays €36950  - or £30000, or even more (Austria, Switzerland, Scandinavia, for example) - needs to seek help from a mental health professional!  :(

These bikes are not worth a fraction of that.  I didn't mind too much paying way over the odds at £23000, but I'm not going to be taken for a fool at £30000, and even were I the richest man in the world, I'd still not buy at that price.  I love my bike, I love the Harley lifestyle I've bought into, at a considerable premium, but there's a limit, and I won't encourage them by being ripped off. I work too hard from my money!  It's a shame that others are still willing to part with money quite so easily - as long as people are silly enough to bend over the nearest table for Harley, they'll keep ripping people off, more and more and more.  :'(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BALIS on August 01, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
The FLHTCUSE is now at 39.000 euros.It's 2.000 euros more than last year for the 2011 model. >:(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on August 01, 2011, 12:35:25 PM
The FLHTCUSE is now at 39.000 euros.It's 2.000 euros more than last year for the 2011 model. >:(

Lunacy.  I'd like to think they'll all sit on the showroom floors till they drop the price, but I know they won't......  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: B.A. on August 01, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
I have to cop to NOT reading all 19 pages.  Maybe old news as it relates to this thread.  I was surprised by the numbers in the first 5 and last several pages I did read.  Man!  I agree with many of the comments about dealer's relative expertise nowadays.  I think they, generally speaking, have fallen very far.  For example, picked up a screw in my rear tire (2011 FLTRUSE)  Bit the bullet and just had the dealer do the work. $318 out the door for the pleasure of having 57 pounds of air in the damn thing.  First several "chops" I hit I thought my spine was gonne shring about 3 inches.  Every inch counts no matter what yer talkin'!  ;D

Wiebs Roadhouse HD in Princeton, IL closing.  The MOCO wanted them to build a new store.  Small store but it's one minute from I-80. In this economy they chose to close it.  It's too bad the Motor Company has that much control.  This is a small store but I'll bet it's profitable.  Seemed like one of the better dealerships I've visited.

www.wiebshd.com

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on August 01, 2011, 01:31:41 PM
 It's too bad the Motor Company has that much control.

Absolutely, B.A.  :(

They are in danger of killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on August 01, 2011, 02:27:02 PM
Absolutely, B.A.  :(

They are in danger of killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Jim
Agree.........seems as tho they've always been their own worse enemy.   :( :-[spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on August 01, 2011, 02:40:05 PM
Up here in Canada...so long as the dealer is still flogging some overpriced HD wares that Deeley can make it's cut on...they'll keep it open...reguardless of service or anything else....How's that for a good business model?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: hogasm on August 01, 2011, 08:42:33 PM
As song as there are people out there buying their chit...the MOCO will continue to raise prices.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on August 02, 2011, 04:49:58 AM
As song as there are people out there buying their chit...the MOCO will continue to raise prices.

Exactly what I'm saying, hogasm.  But why won't people get sensible instead of getting ass-raped, and just stop buying these bikes till it hurts the MoCo? That's the real question.  It doesn't do any "real" HD owner any favours - we end up being all classed as spoiled rich folks with a whole lot more money than sense, and basically get laughed at by folks in the real world.  :(  Bikes bought at upwards of US$50000 (A CUSE in India costs around - wait for this - US$80,000!!!) don't make us look like cool dudes, or lucky, or envied; they simply make us look as if we are fools, stupid to pay the price.  I don't care that in many countries - like the examples I gave yesterday of Switzerland, Austria, and Scandinavia - a big chunk is import duty; if the actual price of the bike was closer to reality, the duty would be a whole lot lower.

Nothing to do with having the money to pay for one, everything to do with having the wisdom not to.

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mr_magoo on August 02, 2011, 08:58:20 AM
All American HD in Albany,Or closed recently.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on August 02, 2011, 09:17:09 AM
All American HD in Albany,Or closed recently.

I wonder if the number of new dealerships is equal to or greater than the ones disappearing? 

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Tirpitz on September 06, 2011, 11:09:20 PM
Just found out that Gutterridge Harley-Davidson in Danville, IL.  closed back in March.  Checked out their website, still online and nothing about being closed.   www.gutterridgehd.com   
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cvobiker on September 07, 2011, 08:24:12 AM
I wonder if the number of new dealerships is equal to or greater than the ones disappearing? 

Jim

Pro ably getting close..
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on September 07, 2011, 09:50:11 AM
Just found out that Gutterridge Harley-Davidson in Danville, IL.  closed back in March.  Checked out their website, still online and nothing about being closed.   www.gutterridgehd.com   

Sure doesn't appear that they closed in March, with them showing current models just released for sale.  :confused5:  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Rooster on September 07, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
All American HD in Albany,Or closed recently.
Karma, some of their employees have been at Salem HD for some time now. Most recently thier sales manager who hasen't changed any as she dropped the ball on Ernie but the SM took over and treated Ernie very good.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on September 07, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
Sure doesn't appear that they closed in March, with them showing current models just released for sale.  :confused5:  :nixweiss:

Don't know this and was too lazy to call the dealer phone number and actually find out rather than speculate.  But was on the phone with a buddy from Danville a few days ago who mentioned during the conversation this his local shop had gone indie.  Hadn't closed the doors just no longer a bona fide HD dealership.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on September 08, 2011, 06:59:29 AM
Don't know this and was too lazy to call the dealer phone number and actually find out rather than speculate.  But was on the phone with a buddy from Danville a few days ago who mentioned during the conversation this his local shop had gone indie.  Hadn't closed the doors just no longer a bona fide HD dealership.

Good luck to them for having the courage to ditch the MoCo, their draconian policies, and most of all their ridiculous pricing!   :2vrolijk_21:

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on September 08, 2011, 08:04:15 AM
Good luck to them for having the courage to ditch the MoCo, their draconian policies, and most of all their ridiculous pricing!   :2vrolijk_21:

Jim
Yeah, 'cept it's one less place to get parts when traveling thru.  spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on September 08, 2011, 08:23:24 AM
Yeah, 'cept it's one less place to get parts when traveling thru.  spyder

Not necessarily, and the need for parts on the road is pretty unusual, Spyd.  Buy on the premises and you pay local sales tax.

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: North Georgia Hawg on September 13, 2011, 08:17:14 PM
Exactly what I'm saying, hogasm.  But why won't people get sensible instead of getting ass-raped, and just stop buying these bikes till it hurts the MoCo? That's the real question.  It doesn't do any "real" HD owner any favours - we end up being all classed as spoiled rich folks with a whole lot more money than sense, and basically get laughed at by folks in the real world.  :(  Bikes bought at upwards of US$50000 (A CUSE in India costs around - wait for this - US$80,000!!!) don't make us look like cool dudes, or lucky, or envied; they simply make us look as if we are fools, stupid to pay the price.  I don't care that in many countries - like the examples I gave yesterday of Switzerland, Austria, and Scandinavia - a big chunk is import duty; if the actual price of the bike was closer to reality, the duty would be a whole lot lower.

Nothing to do with having the money to pay for one, everything to do with having the wisdom not to.

Jim

Good points! I think that the majority of new Harley buyers probably ARE "rich" (relatively speaking)... either that or they're in hock up to their eyebrows on their new Hogs! I would never pay outrageous import taxes to buy a new Harley in one of the countries you mentioned. There's a limit to how much these expensive toys are really worth... at least to me. Apparently my tolerance is pretty high though... judging from the amount of money that has left my wallet and gone to dealers and the MoCo in the last month for various P&A items since I acquired this bike!

Many Harley owners these days probably do not know a piston from a petcock. They HAVE to take their bikes in to a dealer for anything - because they don't know how to work on it themselves. These are just machines after all... but how many people work on their 4-wheeled vehicles these days? I don't even do that anymore - because I frankly don't want to spend my time working on them.

With the Harley, it's different, for me at least. I will likely do most or all of my maintenance myself... because I can, and I enjoy working on my bike immensely. I have the H-D Service manual, the 2012 CVO SG supplement, and the parts catalog is on its way. But I think that most new Harley buyers (as in their first Harley... maybe even their first motorcycle) will highly likely be taking it to the dealer to have all of their maintenance done. I suspect that dealers - as well as the MoCo - make a lot more profit on service, P&A, and Motorclothes than they do on selling the bikes anyway... and the MoCo makes tons of additional money licensing the H-D logo, too.

But you are right... if the price gets too high, then people WILL stop buying. Judging from the way the 2012 CVOs seem to be flying out the door though, that price point does not seem to have been reached yet. It will be interesting to see how many bikes the MoCo sells in the current quarter on their next earnings call... if the profitability and/or revenue numbers are down, then I would expect the bike prices to follow... but that might take awhile.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Monolyth on September 13, 2011, 10:24:02 PM
I take all my bikes to the dealership for 5k, 10k, 20k etc... service like clockwork.  They also install anything that takes more then a few min, like the new bars I had put on my Street Glide.  I could do the work myself, but frankly my weekend time is precious, I enjoy the riding and parties etc... losing a weekend to my bike being down is not worth the few dollars it cost to have the dealership do it during the week.

Monolith
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: North Georgia Hawg on September 15, 2011, 08:55:47 PM
I take all my bikes to the dealership for 5k, 10k, 20k etc... service like clockwork.  They also install anything that takes more then a few min, like the new bars I had put on my Street Glide.  I could do the work myself, but frankly my weekend time is precious, I enjoy the riding and parties etc... losing a weekend to my bike being down is not worth the few dollars it cost to have the dealership do it during the week.

Monolith

Well, I don't have any friends anyway... so I never get invited to any parties...   ;)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BostonboyDH on October 04, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
      Paramount HD in Framingham, Ma. Closing their dealership October 28,2011 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fatboy on October 04, 2011, 11:20:40 PM
      Paramount HD in Framingham, Ma. Closing their dealership October 28,2011 

WOW!

Almost hard to believe, I visted here this summer and it is a huge, well stocked store in a major metropolitan market.

Albeit a little tricky to find for an out of towner.

Did they relocate or consolidate with another location?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on October 04, 2011, 11:27:57 PM

Did they relocate or consolidate with another location?



Precision HD over in Pawtucket is a sister shop to the Framingham dealership.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: WFP on October 05, 2011, 07:43:02 AM
Paramount is where I got 3 of my last 4 CVOs, 2004, 2006 2010...


Precision HD over in Pawtucket is a sister shop to the Framingham dealership.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BostonboyDH on October 05, 2011, 08:39:33 PM
  Precision HD in Pawtucket RI is actually the parent shop to Paramount HD, owned by three brothers Rich, Jim, & Stan. They expanded into Ma. sometime around 2002 when they bought an old supermarket in Framingham Ma and opened a new dealership. They grabbed some experienced HD personal from their RI shop and also from NH & Mass Dealerships, Some of these people I was familiar with. The biggest disappointment for me is "Lew" their service Mgr is retiring! He originally worked in Boston @ Cycle Craft HD for about a million years! Cycle Craft HD was the biggest HD dealership in Ma. until Paramount HD opened up and has been in business since before I even had a licence to drive! Originally owned by the Atwood family, Cycle Craft HD changed hands in 2004 and is now Boston HD,  I bought my 1st HD in 1995 at that store and two more since, and Lew took very good care of me. The Boston Dealership has changed hands twice 2004, first bought by Rossmeyer and now it's owned by one of the NH dealerships. I left them in 2003 when I found out the service Mgr Lew was let go, right after I bought my 2003 RG, they never saw that bike again, the 1st service was done at Paramount HD by my old friend & service Mgr Lew!!!  Well now I guess it's of to RI for service I still have 5 years on the warranty!!   Bostonboy  "DH"
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: WFP on October 06, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
He has helped me get work done and covered by my ESP many times...he also complained  ;) that I always give him problems that are out of the ordinary and hard to diagnose...like a loose wire on an ECM wire.

Bill

  Precision HD in Pawtucket RI is actually the parent shop to Paramount HD, owned by three brothers Rich, Jim, & Stan. They expanded into Ma. sometime around 2002 when they bought an old supermarket in Framingham Ma and opened a new dealership. They grabbed some experienced HD personal from their RI shop and also from NH & Mass Dealerships, Some of these people I was familiar with. The biggest disappointment for me is "Lew" their service Mgr is retiring! He originally worked in Boston @ Cycle Craft HD for about a million years! Cycle Craft HD was the biggest HD dealership in Ma. until Paramount HD opened up and has been in business since before I even had a licence to drive! Originally owned by the Atwood family, Cycle Craft HD changed hands in 2004 and is now Boston HD,  I bought my 1st HD in 1995 at that store and two more since, and Lew took very good care of me. The Boston Dealership has changed hands twice 2004, first bought by Rossmeyer and now it's owned by one of the NH dealerships. I left them in 2003 when I found out the service Mgr Lew was let go, right after I bought my 2003 RG, they never saw that bike again, the 1st service was done at Paramount HD by my old friend & service Mgr Lew!!!  Well now I guess it's of to RI for service I still have 5 years on the warranty!!   Bostonboy  "DH"
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: miker on October 06, 2011, 10:47:09 AM
A shame, I remember it as a supermarket.....puking in pahkin lot afta waaaay too many drinks at the Happy Swallow.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Shovelhead on October 06, 2011, 04:03:51 PM
I think if about 75% of them closed the doors for good, perhaps the remaining 25% would get a better attitude !!!

.....just my 2 pesos

 :jalapeno:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Keats on October 08, 2011, 02:33:10 PM
I think if about 75% of them closed the doors for good, perhaps the remaining 25% would get a better attitude !!!

.....just my 2 pesos

 :jalapeno:


I think that if 75% of them closed, they would have a bigger "Attitude".

Where would be able to go?

competition is what helps us, lack of, kills us
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: fastbikedroid on October 10, 2011, 12:34:42 AM
I liked the layout and the clothing and accessory folks in Framingham, but bike shopped at Precision ... Paramount has the singular honor of helping me get my SG in Boston...  I hate to see any dealer close.

Not sure if it was in the thread, but I heard TSI is merging Columbia into Ellington.  Another loss. 

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Shovelhead on October 10, 2011, 11:51:39 AM


I think that if 75% of them closed, they would have a bigger "Attitude".

Where would be able to go?

competition is what helps us, lack of, kills us

I see what you are saying, but here in Texas we have dealerships roughly every 50 miles (or less ) along the major interstates and many of them have a piss poor attitude and are seemingly of the mindset:
"if you want the privilege of standing in our facility and tolerating our narcissistic-incompetent-customer is always wrong-we don't care if you do business here or not-piss poor attitude; go down the road to the next dealer because some poor slob will walk in behind you whom is perfectly willing to put up with this nonsense" !!!

So , I digress, that if roughly half of those  dealers closed their doors due to lack of business in this economy, perhaps those that are left would adopt a more customer friendly business-like atmosphere and I would gladly travel farther to do business with the latter .
 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on October 10, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Wandell last week stated in Columbus (http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/morning_call/2011/10/harley-davidson-ceo-aims-to-wow.html?page=all):

"... Wandell said North America, with half of Harley-Davidson’s more than 1,400 dealer locations, has been over-developed and between 60 and 70 stores have closed with another 30 expected. Those closures are meant to strengthen the business for the remaining dealerships."
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on October 10, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
Wandell last week stated in Columbus (http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/morning_call/2011/10/harley-davidson-ceo-aims-to-wow.html?page=all):

"... Wandell said North America, with half of Harley-Davidson’s more than 1,400 dealer locations, has been over-developed and between 60 and 70 stores have closed with another 30 expected. Those closures are meant to strengthen the business for the remaining dealerships."

For which we read "will reduce competition and prevent discounting...."  Hans.  I've about had it with Harley, I'm afraid.  I'm just not willing to be ripped off any more.  If they'd stopped dealers selling to international customers and made the prices the same in Europe as they are in the US, I wouldn't have minded, but why should we pay several times the [already far too high] US prices?

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: fastbikedroid on October 10, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
I think HD is forgetting that a big dealer network helps sell the product ... I love the "Destination dealers" since they're fun to browse, but I don't think I'd enjoy a 200 mile round trip every time I needed service.  Oh wait, I do that now on my other bike (a beemer) and it isn't the worst, but it is a hassle ... and god help me if it needs to stay overnight.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on October 10, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
I think HD is forgetting that a big dealer network helps sell the product ... I love the "Destination dealers" since they're fun to browse, but I don't think I'd enjoy a 200 mile round trip every time I needed service.  Oh wait, I do that now on my other bike (a beemer) and it isn't the worst, but it is a hassle ... and god help me if it needs to stay overnight.

I do that now to go to my independant.......and pass several dealerships on the way. :o
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 110Mofo on October 10, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
I think HD is forgetting that a big dealer network helps sell the product ... I love the "Destination dealers" since they're fun to browse, but I don't think I'd enjoy a 200 mile  round trip every time I needed service.  Oh wait, I do that now on my other bike (a beemer) and it isn't the worst, but it is a hassle ... and god help me if it needs to stay overnight.

 What JC said  :bigcry:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on October 10, 2011, 05:12:18 PM
For which we read "will reduce competition and prevent discounting...."  Hans.  I've about had it with Harley, I'm afraid.  I'm just not willing to be ripped off any more.  If they'd stopped dealers selling to international customers and made the prices the same in Europe as they are in the US, I wouldn't have minded, but why should we pay several times the [already far too high] US prices?

Hi Jim,

the MoCo seems to have survived the crisis - but the US dealers are still in it while our european dealers didn't even feel any crisis at all. But they do now ...
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Robmay on October 10, 2011, 05:23:44 PM
For which we read "will reduce competition and prevent discounting...."  Hans.  I've about had it with Harley, I'm afraid.  I'm just not willing to be ripped off any more.  If they'd stopped dealers selling to international customers and made the prices the same in Europe as they are in the US, I wouldn't have minded, but why should we pay several times the [already far too high] US prices?

Jim

Wow. I can't imagine. Just saw in this months HOG magazine the CVO Ultra lists at $37,249.00. I hate paying any freight or dealer prep over here. I can't imagine what you'd have to pay there.  :-\

You could get ya a BMW.......just sayin.  :P
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on October 11, 2011, 04:32:53 AM
Wow. I can't imagine. Just saw in this months HOG magazine the CVO Ultra lists at $37,249.00. I hate paying any freight or dealer prep over here. I can't imagine what you'd have to pay there.  :-\

You could get ya a BMW.......just sayin.  :P

:-)  Nah, this will be my last bike, Rob.  Harley have soured the entire experience for me - my motorcycling days are drawing to a close.

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: berniemc on October 11, 2011, 05:47:46 AM
It seems like all the dealers want is to rip off the customers.I had a flat Sunday and plugged it.Stopped by dealer in Chattanooga with intention of buying a new rear tire until the service man quoted me a price of 420.00.I promptly left and rode it on home.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RetSUBLDO on October 11, 2011, 06:12:04 AM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
TSI Columbia Harley-Davidson to consolidate with TSI Harley-Davidson of Ellington CT after 7 years in business. The owners, Harry and Kelly Levesque, say TSI Columbia Harley-Davidson is fortunate to have served many loyal customers over the years and will continue to do so at the Ellington location.

"It's been a pleasure working with multiple organizations in both Windham and Tolland counties to help build and strengthen the communities we work and live in. Over the years we are proud to have worked with the Willimantic Rotary, The Chamber of Commerce and multiple groups to help benefit those in need such as Little Hearts, Special Olympics, MDA, and many other local charities."

TSI Columbia Harley-Davidson opened in 2004 after being a satellite retail location for the TSI Harley-Davidson of Ellington, CT. In that time, TSI Columbia was awarded the Bronze Bar and Shield in 2008 and the Silver Bar and Shield in 2010 from the Harley-Davidson Motor Company.

"The decision to consolidate has been a personal decision for us since many of the employees and customers are considered close friends. It's been a pleasure serving our loyal customers at our Columbia location over the years and look forward to serving them for many more at our Ellington location," said Harry Levesque.

TSI Columbia Harley-Davidson notified Harley-Davidson of its plans to close in September. TSI says Harley-Davidson, at this time has no plans to replace the dealership.

Customers will be able to find us at TSI Harley-Davidson in Ellington, CT who has been serving customers for over 39 years. Many of the employees from the Columbia location will transfer to Ellington to continue the excellent service they provide.


 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BryantH on October 23, 2011, 12:59:04 PM

Paramount Harley Davidson in Framingham Massachusetts will close its doors on October 28th 2011 after 10 years of service.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: fastbikedroid on October 23, 2011, 01:04:26 PM
Paramount Harley Davidson in Framingham Massachusetts will close its doors on October 28th 2011 after 10 years of service.



50% off through thursday on clothes/etc and 30% on discontinued parts (though I didn't see much) ... Sad to see them go since it's a nice store in a good location.
Title: Dealer Closed
Post by: rockyhd on October 29, 2011, 10:02:39 AM
Another dealer has closed it doors for good. Crossroads Harley- Davidson in Center Valley Pa
Title: Re: Dealer Closed
Post by: Keats on October 29, 2011, 10:25:42 AM
I am not surprised at that event.....
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RJ749 on October 29, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
Unfortunately H-D was so focused on the customer experience they forced dealers into facilities (Taj Mahal's)that were projected to be profitable on unsustainable volumes both in new bikes and parts/accessories.  While we all enjoy walking into a new building that is gigantic and magnificent it isn't always realistic to have such a facility in some markets. 

As I watched to network grow (knowing the cost of my car store) I wondered what the new owners were seeing that I didn't that would make a new H-D facility profitable and maintainable.  Now it appears the rush to get on the H-D train has certainly hit the skids since 2008 not unlike many industries that relied on consumption, often conspicuous consumption of the target audience.  Now with the economy on the skids and continuing to stay there, many people with Harley's, sport cars for sunny days, second/third homes etc. etc. have come to a realization that they can't continue to spend with wreckless abandon and have stopped comsuming.

Those of us that are in the business of selling lifestyle have all found out the improtance of having a business plan that is sustainable in a down economy, many H-D stores were doomed from the start in my opinion.  Now the dealer network is shrinking to a natural level of locations and the better dealer operators will survive. 

Not saying the customer will see it that way from improved service in some locations, that's simply an individual dealers choice to please a customer or not.  I would be surprised if the above quoted number of closures isn't even larger that stated.


Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spada84 on October 31, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
Working in Reidsville, NC this week.  See that Wolf Creek HD is closed.  Looks like they had a nice building anyway.  I belive that they were a SRL from Greensboro HD.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: charlie on November 01, 2011, 04:33:04 AM
I don't know if this has been said before, because I did not read all 24 pages, but Harley requires a total redo on any store 10 years old. That could coast the owner in the Millions of dollars. I know of a dealer that had 2 stores and closed one because of the cost of the remodel was not wort it in this economy.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: tazmun on November 01, 2011, 10:44:12 AM
I don't know if this has been said before, because I did not read all 24 pages, but Harley requires a total redo on any store 10 years old. That could coast the owner in the Millions of dollars. I know of a dealer that had 2 stores and closed one because of the cost of the remodel was not wort it in this economy.
That MIGHT be true, but the largest dealer in the greater Milwaukee area as I understand,
has told HD numerous times "POUND SAND". They are still in the same old building for as long
as I can remember. I'll bet they are still laughing all the way to the bank, especially since
the economy tanked.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on November 11, 2011, 06:12:51 PM
I don't know if this has been said before, because I did not read all 24 pages, but Harley requires a total redo on any store 10 years old. That could coast the owner in the Millions of dollars. I know of a dealer that had 2 stores and closed one because of the cost of the remodel was not wort it in this economy.

Harley does not require a dealership to do a total redo just because a store is 10 years old. That being said, there are updates to fixtures that may, or may not be required/suggested, both free standing and on the walls.  And yes, that can cost tens of thousands of dollars; however, not doing the updates does not have dire consequences.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on November 11, 2011, 07:32:22 PM
Harley does not require a dealership to do a total redo just because a store is 10 years old. That being said, there are updates to fixtures that may, or may not be required/suggested, both free standing and on the walls.  And yes, that can cost tens of thousands of dollars; however, not doing the updates does not have dire consequences.
So they're just trying to 'help'.  :-\ spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mrmagloo on November 11, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
Harley does not require a dealership to do a total redo just because a store is 10 years old. That being said, there are updates to fixtures that may, or may not be required/suggested, both free standing and on the walls.  And yes, that can cost tens of thousands of dollars; however, not doing the updates does not have dire consequences.

Um, not sure where you're getting your info, and while age is just part of the equation, you are wrong about the updates not being manditory and in many cases crippling expensive.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on November 11, 2011, 11:05:52 PM
Um, not sure where you're getting your info, and while age is just part of the equation, you are wrong about the updates not being manditory and in many cases crippling expensive.




 About the updates



Um, not sure where you're getting your info, and while its not

Anyone immediately think of dealerships they visit that have not had major facelifts in the last ten years?  I can think of a few within riding distance of me.  Don't really care one way or the other what Harley might try to make them do.  Just don't remember this seeming applied as universally as is being suggested; at least among the shops I see occasionally.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: spydglide on November 12, 2011, 07:28:00 AM
Anyone immediately think of dealerships they visit that have not had major facelifts in the last ten years?  I can think of a few within riding distance of me.  Don't really care one way or the other what Harley might try to make them do.  Just don't remember this seeming applied as universally as is being suggested; at least among the shops I see occasionally.
Local dealer was discussing this with the 'rep' when I was by just last week.  Measuring wall panel displays, etc.  Don't know if it's 'required' or not, but apparently still going on. :-\  spyder
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on November 17, 2011, 02:37:39 PM
Um, not sure where you're getting your info, and while age is just part of the equation, you are wrong about the updates not being manditory and in many cases crippling expensive.

Um, I'm getting my information from being a Dealer for nearly two decades and no mandatory facelifts done in that time.  Yes, there are times when they encourage upgrades and are currently working with some dealers to update their interior slatwall and free standing fixtures and yes, in many cases it will not be cheap.  However, if a dealer does not do it, there are no dire consequences being held over us.  So, you are not correct, or your source is putting their own spin to it which is fairly common.  :)
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wild Card on November 17, 2011, 04:08:52 PM
Um, I'm getting my information from being a Dealer for nearly two decades and no no mandatory facelifts done in that time.  Yes, there are times when they encourage upgrades and are currently working with some dealers to update their interior slatwall and free standing fixtures and yes, in many cases it will not be cheap.  However, if a dealer does not do it, there are no dire consequences being held over us.  So, you are not correct, or your source is putting their own spin to it which is fairly common.  :)

Aaaannnnnnd, check mate!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mrmagloo on November 17, 2011, 05:56:13 PM
Um, I'm getting my information from being a Dealer for nearly two decades and no no mandatory facelifts done in that time.  Yes, there are times when they encourage upgrades and are currently working with some dealers to update their interior slatwall and free standing fixtures and yes, in many cases it will not be cheap.  However, if a dealer does not do it, there are no dire consequences being held over us.  So, you are not correct, or your source is putting their own spin to it which is fairly common.  :)

For obvious reasons I'm not going to go into this publicly, but the fact is, I think it's a little silly for you to sit here and state with authority that just because you were not forced to build a big box, that nobody ever was, especially in a major market. It's unreasonable to suggest that they are lying and you have some kind of an exclusive on all individual MOCO dealer relationships, unless you're also claiming Keith runs all issues past you as well. I'm not sure where in Northern CA you are, nor what sq/ft you have in relation to the size of the market, or the density of other dealers, but I would have to assume your penetration ratio - whatever that is, must be more acceptable than these guys were. And yes, one partnership refused and was given no good alternative but to sell (yes he called it forced), and the other guy built the big box and will eventually loose alot, if not everything. I'm thankful for your sake you were not put in the same situation, but I've known these guys way before and after, and there's just nothing to lie about.  Good luck.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on November 18, 2011, 08:20:02 AM
Anyone immediately think of dealerships they visit that have not had major facelifts in the last ten years?  I can think of a few within riding distance of me.  Don't really care one way or the other what Harley might try to make them do.  Just don't remember this seeming applied as universally as is being suggested; at least among the shops I see occasionally.

I can think of two dealers with in 70 miles of me that have not had any facelifts in the past ten years, or longer.

If one of them were to do a facelift or major out lay it would be the nail that puts him out of business.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on November 18, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
For obvious reasons I'm not going to go into this publicly, but the fact is, I think it's a little silly for you to sit here and state with authority that just because you were not forced to build a big box, that nobody ever was, especially in a major market. It's unreasonable to suggest that they are lying and you have some kind of an exclusive on all individual MOCO dealer relationships, unless you're also claiming Keith runs all issues past you as well. I'm not sure where in Northern CA you are, nor what sq/ft you have in relation to the size of the market, or the density of other dealers, but I would have to assume your penetration ratio - whatever that is, must be more acceptable than these guys were. And yes, one partnership refused and was given no good alternative but to sell (yes he called it forced), and the other guy built the big box and will eventually loose alot, if not everything. I'm thankful for your sake you were not put in the same situation, but I've known these guys way before and after, and there's just nothing to lie about.  Good luck.


This is what I hate about computer conversations.  A couple of sentences on a screen with no face-to-face interaction can be less than ideal.  My response to Charlie was "Harley does not require a dealership to do a total redo just because a store is 10 years old."  I stand by that, that's simply untrue.  You say "I think it's a little silly for you to sit here and state with authority that just because you were not forced to build a big box, that nobody ever was."  I did not say that, but evidently that's how it came across.  Harley does require dealerships to meet their facility guidelines and that includes total size of the facility and many dealers have had to build larger facilities to satisfy Harley's requirements.  They have been doing this since way before I became a dealer.  I do not know the situation of the guys you are talking about and no, I don't think they're lying - I wish the remaining partner well, it's not alot of fun these days.        

Personally, Im pretty sure the building of bigger facilities is not much of an issue these days, but no, Keith hasn't contacted me about all the individual relationships he has dealer development working on, ;D  These days Harley is pretty much concentrating on dealers having fixtures, store graphics, interior signage and lighting that meets their standards.  That was the context my original post was meant.  Can it be expensive, yes, do I agree with all their requirements, not necessarily.  Do I expect to be terminated if all does not get done - no.   Take Care.



 




Title: Zanotti HD Closing its doors
Post by: Beach Bum on November 26, 2011, 11:58:57 PM
I recently ordered some parts from the Zanetti internet dept and along with the order confirmation, I received the following info re: the closing of the store on Dec 31.  Just wanted to pass the info on.


As most of you may or may not know the owner of Zanotti is retiring and the store will be closing Dec 31. The Internet service will have to stop at some point. The folks doing the Internet for Zanotti are discussing continuing the Internet service with another dealer. It is looking good at this point. It will have the same people and service that was provided thru Zanotti. However, it will be a slow start to get everything set up with the new dealer.

At this point we are hoping to be able to do the following. We would be able to recieve the paypal orders thru Zanotti's untill the end of December. Paypal orders would be paid and shipped thru the new dealer. We can also do some small phone orders thru Zanotti's untill the end of December. Phone hours would be somewhat limited due to the transition period and manning. Again the order being paid and shipped thru the new dealer.

Those of us that do the Internet at Zanotti are dedicated to making the transition as smooth as we can. We know there will be bumps along the way. We hope that will not discourage you from keeping us in mind for all your parts and accessory needs. We will be letting customers know the new web site for ordering as soon as it is available.

All current orders will be shipped as we get the parts. Any parts on backorder that have an estimated release date after Dec 31 will be canceled and credited to the customer. We are not able to order painted/primed parts, speedometers that require mileage at this time.
Thanks,
John H
Zanotti's
724-283-5419
Telephone hours: Monday - Friday 12:00PM to 2:00 PM Eastern
Live Help M-F 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM on web page: www.zanottimotor.com
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: backroad Mike on November 27, 2011, 05:08:05 AM
Yup. I got that same e-mail yesterday.   :(
Title: Zanotti HD
Post by: rayz1951 on November 27, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Is Zanotti Harley going out of business? :confused5:
Title: Re: Zanotti HD
Post by: Twolanerider on November 27, 2011, 11:33:08 AM
Is Zanotti Harley going out of business? :confused5:

That's what's been reported several times over the last couple days....
Title: Re: Zanotti HD
Post by: Fired00d on November 27, 2011, 05:34:44 PM
Is Zanotti Harley going out of business? :confused5:
Moved/merged your thread with this one since someone earlier (Reply #344 (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=32582.msg955782#msg955782)) had posted about them closing and provided a copy of the email they received from Zanotti.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cyco1450 on November 27, 2011, 08:01:46 PM
I didn't read all 348 posts, but Mills HD in Burlington NJ was the oldest dealer in NJ and shut down, as did Trenton HD.  Millville HD in South Jersey shut both its stores- Millville and Wildwood HD-after probably 40 or more years.  Seems like big box dealers getting bigger and smaller dealers falling off the map?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: MKW on November 27, 2011, 09:28:47 PM
      Paramount HD in Framingham, Ma. Closing their dealership October 28,2011 

I always wondered how those "cold weather" states support HD dealerships when there is a limited riding season.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on November 28, 2011, 12:36:37 AM

 Millville HD in South Jersey shut both its stores- Millville and Wildwood HD-after probably 40 or more years.


Those two got some bad local press back in the spring when it happened.  Not so much for the fact that they closed but that it was done with apparently zero notice to anyone.  

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/cape_may/article_fdd6b06a-56e2-11df-89aa-001cc4c03286.html

I liked the Wildwood store too.  Had been there a few times and always found it to be a fun place in a fun location.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on December 17, 2011, 08:15:18 PM
I'm on a 'break' in Arizona and stopped by Superstition HD in Apache Junction.....they quit doing rentals Dec 1st.....not very much for Motor Clothes....and less than half a showroom of bikes with a bunch of those being the rental fleet for sale. Makes me wonder how long they will last.
 
Chester's in Mesa looks like business as usual.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: rayz1951 on December 18, 2011, 11:38:17 AM
Detroit Harley Davidson closed it's doors this fall.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on December 18, 2011, 08:10:19 PM
Detroit Harley Davidson closed it's doors this fall.

Is Motown Harley still operating?  Just wondering if that is the one you're referrng to?   :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BostonboyDH on December 18, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
I always wondered how those "cold weather" states support HD dealerships when there is a limited riding season.
  I know the dealers lay off techs, The service managers are making deals, beggin for work.   
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: flhse on December 18, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
Grizzly,

Motown changed its name a few years back to Biker Bob's.  They are still open.  We have 3 in the metro area now, Biker Bob's (south side in Taylor I believe), Motor City HD (Farmington Hills, west side) and Wolverine (Mt Clemens, east side).

Brad
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: rayz1951 on December 19, 2011, 08:07:33 PM
Don't forget ABC Harley in Waterford MI. and Vehicle City near Flint.

Ray Z
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on December 19, 2011, 09:04:35 PM
Thanks for the update Brad.
Title: Heard that 51 HD dealerships closed this past year...
Post by: Para Bellum on December 20, 2011, 08:17:13 PM
Anybody have a source for this info, and update or correction to this #?
Title: Re: Heard that 51 HD dealerships closed this past year...
Post by: JCZ on December 20, 2011, 10:00:19 PM
Anybody have a source for this info, and update or correction to this #?

Go through this thread and count them up. :nixweiss:
Title: Re: Heard that 51 HD dealerships closed this past year...
Post by: Para Bellum on December 21, 2011, 01:30:03 AM
Go through this thread and count them up. :nixweiss:

Too high a number for you?  :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: charlie on December 21, 2011, 06:52:31 AM
Harley does not require a dealership to do a total redo just because a store is 10 years old. That being said, there are updates to fixtures that may, or may not be required/suggested, both free standing and on the walls.  And yes, that can cost tens of thousands of dollars; however, not doing the updates does not have dire consequences.
    If I was wrong in what I stated it was from information I got from the dealer. It was not ment to miss lead any one.
Title: Re: Heard that 51 HD dealerships closed this past year...
Post by: JCZ on December 21, 2011, 08:08:55 AM
Too high a number for you?  :huepfenlol2:
I know the answer......thought you've been here long enough to know the answer, too. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RJ749 on December 21, 2011, 09:08:04 AM
Here's the dealer numbers from H-D, printed in the investors relationship info and available off their website.

Seems that with all the change things stay fairly level in the number of dealerships, down 33 from the 2008 high of 686.  The Secondary retail are also down 28 from a high of 104 in 2007 which certainly adds to the total number of stores closed but still not extremely dramatic in my mind, these are not the mall locations but satellite retail units.

Mall stores "alternative" retail outlets in H-D lingo are actually up to 86 from 2007 low number of 68 which offsets some of the secondary retail store loss as mall stores are owned by dealers as well.


Harley-Davidson Full Service Dealerships
           2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA       653   671   686  684   679
Canada   71     71     71    74    75

Secondary Retail Locations
             2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA          76    87   101  104   97
Canada      3     3      3      2     2

Alternative Retail Outlets
       2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA    86    83    77   68    69
Canada 3    5      3     8      2
 

http://investor.harley-davidson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=87981&p=irol-dealerships&locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US


 

 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Para Bellum on December 22, 2011, 12:05:55 AM
Here's the dealer numbers from H-D, printed in the investors relationship info and available off their website.

Seems that with all the change things stay fairly level in the number of dealerships, down 33 from the 2008 high of 686.  The Secondary retail are also down 28 from a high of 104 in 2007 which certainly adds to the total number of stores closed but still not extremely dramatic in my mind, these are not the mall locations but satellite retail units.

Mall stores "alternative" retail outlets in H-D lingo are actually up to 86 from 2007 low number of 68 which offsets some of the secondary retail store loss as mall stores are owned by dealers as well.


Harley-Davidson Full Service Dealerships
           2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA       653   671   686  684   679
Canada   71     71     71    74    75

Secondary Retail Locations
             2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA          76    87   101  104   97
Canada      3     3      3      2     2

Alternative Retail Outlets
       2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA    86    83    77   68    69
Canada 3    5      3     8      2
 

http://investor.harley-davidson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=87981&p=irol-dealerships&locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US


 

 


Thanks for that info, and especially for the link to the investor site.  When they update that to include 2011 results, we'll be able to see how this year has been for HD overall.
Title: Re: Heard that 51 HD dealerships closed this past year...
Post by: Para Bellum on December 22, 2011, 12:13:56 AM
Go through this thread and count them up. :nixweiss:

Thanks for the suggestion, but there's just a slight possibility that not all closing dealerships (especially those overseas) have been reported in this thread.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: chromeaphobe on December 23, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
Add Crossroads HD in Center Valley, PA - what a shame

 :nervous:

There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:

Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City, KS

Doyles HD in Roseburg, Oregon

Wilwert's HD Dubuque, Iowa

San Juan Capistrano Harley, CA

Birds of Prey HD Caldwell, Idaho

Hangtown Harley in Placerville, CA

Pineda HD in Melbourne, FL (merged w/ Space Coast)

**edited**
HD of Amador     Amador       CA
Auburn HD     Auburn       CA
Elk Grove HD   Elk Grove  CA
Jacson HD   Jacson   CA
HD of Rocklin   Rocklin   CA
Doyles HD   Roseburg   CA
The Ridge HD   Lake Wales   FL
Pompano Beach HD   Pompano Beach   FL
Birds of Prey HD   Caldwell   ID
Central HD (north)   Kansas City   KS
Riverfront HD   Lawrence   KS
Shreveport HD   Shreveport   LA
Outerbanks HD   Elizabeth City   NC
Littleton HD   Bethlehem   NH
Brooklyn HD   Brooklyn   NY
Dick's HD   Rome   NY
Roeder's HD   Sandusky   OH
Cerini HD      PA
Hartford HD   Hartford   WI
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 04, 2012, 04:16:39 AM
Pierce Harley-Davidson in DeKalb, Ill. corrects earlier reports: Pierce Harley-Davidson not closing, but being sold (http://www.daily-chronicle.com/2011/12/30/pierce-harley-davidson-not-closing-but-being-sold/al5nq4r/).
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 05, 2012, 05:29:22 AM
just noticed: Harley-Davidson Cape Town (http://assetsa.hddealersite.com/holding/index_holding_capetown.html) has ceased trading (http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/bikes/harley-davidson/end-of-an-era-as-harley-dealer-closes-1.1207790) just before christmas.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 05, 2012, 05:32:59 AM
didn't see it mentioned already: New River Valley Harley-Davidson in Christiansburg has closed after three years in business and merged with Roanoke Valley Harley-Davidson on Peters Creek Road in Roanoke (http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/2012/01/03/harley-davidson-shop-in-christiansburg-closes/).
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 05, 2012, 06:44:29 AM
And there's this. (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/heartless-harley-closes-wheel-plant/story-fn59noo3-1226217645580)   More crap from China at hyper-inflated prices. HD actually disgust me.  :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 05, 2012, 06:06:19 PM
old story (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/HD_News/Company/newsarticle.jsp?locale=en_US&articleLink=News%2F1268_press_release.hdnews&newsYear=2011&history=news).

Calling business decisions "heartless" disqualifies any article anyway  ;)

Chances are the australian crap will not be displaced by chinese but italian crap  ;D
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 06, 2012, 04:33:01 AM
old story (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/HD_News/Company/newsarticle.jsp?locale=en_US&articleLink=News%2F1268_press_release.hdnews&newsYear=2011&history=news).

Calling business decisions "heartless" disqualifies any article anyway  ;)

Chances are the australian crap will not be displaced by chinese but italian crap  ;D

Never had a problem with anything made in Australia, including Castaloy wheels on HDs.  With items made in China, however, the quality reflects the cost to the OEM, in my experience, Hans.

So the quality of [all] HDs heads steadily south, while the price continues to rocket north.  :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 06, 2012, 07:28:17 AM
... So the quality of [all] HDs heads steadily south, while the price continues to rocket north.  :(

that's a fact indeed   :nervous:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 06, 2012, 07:49:56 AM
that's a fact indeed   :nervous:

You said it, Hans.  In the press release, this is the telling part: "The sourcing of the New Castalloy production to other existing suppliers is expected to generate about $9 million in annual ongoing savings" The $9m savings will doubtless be passed on to the mugs that continue to buy HDs in the form of even lower quality, and even higher prices.  >:(

As a lifelong HD enthusiast, I am enraged at how the current management is ruining the product, stopping US dealers from selling to overseas customers, and inflating price WAY WAY beyond what any motorcycle (or part) costs to make and is worth.  They will not be getting any more money from me.  :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: charles05663 on January 06, 2012, 10:43:56 AM
Never had a problem with anything made in Australia, including Castaloy wheels on HDs.  With items made in China, however, the quality reflects the cost to the OEM, in my experience, Hans.

So the quality of [all] HDs heads steadily south, while the price continues to rocket north.  :(


Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on January 06, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
You said it, Hans.  In the press release, this is the telling part: "The sourcing of the New Castalloy production to other existing suppliers is expected to generate about $9 million in annual ongoing savings" The $9m savings will doubtless be passed on to the mugs that continue to buy HDs in the form of even lower quality, and even higher prices.  >:(

As a lifelong HD enthusiast, I am enraged at how the current management is ruining the product, stopping US dealers from selling to overseas customers, and inflating price WAY WAY beyond what any motorcycle (or part) costs to make and is worth.  They will not be getting any more money from me.  :(

The same mentality that flooded the market with bikes, lowering the demand and subsequently, their value. :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Pete7539 on January 14, 2012, 11:58:22 AM
Huntington, NY

http://www.lighthousehd.com/
Title: Another Dealer Closing
Post by: Limited Lou on January 18, 2012, 08:42:36 AM
Here in St.Augustine, the Dealer is a dealer until 31 Jan 2012. Then will stay opened to get rid of their inventory for a short time,I here.. I have mixed feelings. Since the new owners took over it has gone down hill. Very greedy. Speaking from my experience with them. Other locals feel the same as I do. I'm still pissed at Motor Co about not standing behind their products. I have a front wheel with the chrome pealing, won't stand behind products.. I wonder if others feel the same and quit buying New Harley's.. I guess what goes around come around..
Title: Re: Another Dealer Closing
Post by: BONES - USMVMC on January 18, 2012, 09:01:15 AM
Here in St.Augustine, the Dealer is a dealer until 31 Jan 2012. Then will stay opened to get rid of their inventory for a short time,I here.. I have mixed feelings. Since the new owners took over it has gone down hill. Very greedy. Speaking from my experience with them. Other locals feel the same as I do. I'm still pissed at Motor Co about not standing behind their products. I have a front wheel with the chrome pealing, won't stand behind products.. I wonder if others feel the same and quit buying New Harley's.. I guess what goes around come around..

I have a 2010 CVO Street glide and I had the same problem with the chrome on the front wheel. Peeling and bubbles. In Oct. of last year my dealer replaced it with no problems. I was told they would only replace each tire once while under warranty. So I still have a couple months left on the rear tire if it should start to peel it will be replaced at no charge. Maybe it was your dealer not wanting to do the work?
Title: Re: Another Dealer Closing
Post by: Limited Lou on January 18, 2012, 09:29:52 AM
I have a 2010 CVO Street glide and I had the same problem with the chrome on the front wheel. Peeling and bubbles. In Oct. of last year my dealer replaced it with no problems. I was told they would only replace each tire once while under warranty. So I still have a couple months left on the rear tire if it should start to peel it will be replaced at no charge. Maybe it was your dealer not wanting to do the work?

Maybe so, I allso contacted Customer Service and it was like talking to the wall.. I was still under original warranty. I keep e-mailing the Lady who refused the claim, reminding as Dealers close, one by one.. Alot is customers not beeing treated Right !!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on January 18, 2012, 01:35:33 PM
The closure of Huntington, NY must have been known for a while... I just received my 2012 Touring Handbook and although it appears to be still noted on the map of New York State, it is not listed in the back.

I must say I'm impressed at how up to date my book is, which of course is a good thing!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Rio on January 18, 2012, 02:16:38 PM
We went to the bike show here in Michigan.  I have a buddy that made our annual trip last year, he had a hard time getting a dresser for 10 days at a reasonable price, so he rented a Goldwing for the time for only $900.  As a result, he's torn between the Goldwing and the new BMW tourning bike.  Now i will get to the point.  I run a BMW store, I had a BMW bike before I started riding HD.  I told him to buy the Goldwing!  He's not a do it yourself guy either, so around here theres only 2 BMW motorcycle stores, it takes you a week or so to get your bike looked at let alone worked on.  The second part, if you have issues on a trip, LOL finding a BMW motorad!  Last year my friends Ultra broke down in Lake Placid on our way to Bar Harbor.  He rented a truck, we through his bike in there, he drove down to Laconia gave them his bike, rented an 2011 Ultra and met us in Bar Harbor the next day.  Honda, Harley you have that frequency, BMW you don't.....but then again they are the best engineered motor machine on the planet!  Anyway, with all these HD stores closing it opens the doors hopefully for some great independents.  They will be busy, their technicians fat, and the quality which is often questionable already, will get worse.

I must be bored!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing (Chicago HD)
Post by: CVOJOE on January 19, 2012, 12:50:08 AM
Received an email from Chicago HD today. Says that "effective January 20, they are consolidating our main dealership operations into one main location, which will be located at 2929 Patriot Blvd. in Glenview, IL. Our Chicago based dealership, located at 6868 Northwestern Ave., will no longer be open to the public after January 20, 2012. We appreciate the many years of support from our Western Avenue customers and our neighbors within the Chicago community. We look forward to serving them at our Glenview location and at our Harley-Davidson merchandise and apparel store located at 66 Ohio Street in Chicago, which will remain open." The rest is the usual blah-blah about how proud they are of their Glenview location, etc.

Big time loss for Chicago. Hopefully they will continue to offer the discounts and such that have made them a great source of parts for us away from our local dealerships and taxes, etc. Sad day.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: skreminegul07 on January 19, 2012, 01:18:15 PM
On a slightly different note, Kellys in Billerica, MA was just sold.

The Veracka family has officially taken over operations at Kelly’s Harley-Davidson! The family currently consists of L-A Harley-Davidson in Lewiston, ME, Central Maine Powersports in Lewiston, ME, and Rawhide Harley-Davidson in Olathe, KS. Paul Veracka will be at the dealership every day along with David, Charlyn, and Lauren.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cyco1450 on January 21, 2012, 05:03:03 PM
I got the same email from Chicago HD. but their website looks like biz as usual regarding the 20% off and the Moco's prohibition on ebay sales and discounts looks to be defeated.  The HD dealer who filed a lawsuit against the Moco (forget who) was successful.

As far as the chrome peeling on front wheels, I am an attorney.  Don't take stuff like that laying down.  File a small claims suit against the Moco.  You'll get their attention and i am 99% certain they will correct the problem immediately.  The cost of them to hire an attorney and defend is cost prohibitive and is bad press.  Several years ago i had a defective chrome problem on some Samson pipes that they refused to take care of; I file suit.  Suffice to say that not only did they replace the pipes, but i got a few free t-shirts too, along with my $ back for the cost of filing suit.

Don't accept what you are told if it truly is wrong or unfair. :pineapple:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 22, 2012, 05:31:33 AM
I am an attorney.  Don't take stuff like that laying down.  Don't accept what you are told if it truly is wrong or unfair. :pineapple:

So, in your professional opinion, is the MoCo imposing the ban on their dealers selling overseas legal?

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Irish john on January 22, 2012, 05:43:19 AM
http://www.provincewide.com/

Only dealer in Northern Ireland closed awaiting new owners......
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 23, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
on Cyril Huze's Blog (http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2012/01/21/fast-motorcycle-industry-news-80/#more-87209):

"Harley-Davidson Program To Reduce The Number Of Its U.S. Dealers. Over the past several years, the economic recession has resulted in slow new bikes sales and in pushing many now unprofitable US dealers in or close to bankruptcy. The traditional option is of course to sell and to reopen with a new owner, which is not necessarily what the Milwaukee company wishes in many areas of the country.
 
As a matter of fact, Harley-Davidson’s President openly declared his intention to continue to shrink the US dealers network, a way to protect the value of the brand and models, keeping a representation only through very profitable dealers. Practically, if your dealership is somewhat in trouble and H-D Milwaukee doesn’t want it anymore in your locale, the company prefers to “help” you to close it definitively via its “Harley-Davidson Motor Company’s U.S. Dealer Consolidation Program.
 
I don’t have details about the financial arrangement and how it works, but some dealers seem to prefer this option than looking for a buyer. Most recent example is Harley-Davidson of St Augustine, Florida where co-owners Clark Vitulli and Allen Good have decided that the Harley Program help in closing was a better financial option than accepting offers made to buy their dealership. Part of the package offered by Harley seems to be to let you sell and liquidate your stock of Harley parts and merchandise (not motorcycles) during a couple of months after the dealership closure. Maybe a way for business owners to recover and prevent them to end their business while in deep red."


anybody knows details about this “Harley-Davidson Motor Company’s U.S. Dealer Consolidation Program"?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cyco1450 on January 24, 2012, 09:21:48 PM
Jim;
I don't know about selling overseas, as that is a whole different ball of wax.  However, the Moco tried to prevent dealers from selling on ebay, Amazon and similar sites as well as advertising deep discounts on their own sites. The Moco is attempting to "regionalize" sales to force people into their local dealer as opposed to ordering over the net.  They've also forced dealers to discontinue wholesale discounts to indy repair shops.

fortunately, for the moment, the Moco lost the internet battle.  They've also precluded dealers from advertising discount sales on current parts.  It's getting like marshall rule????
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 25, 2012, 04:57:43 AM
Jim;
I don't know about selling overseas, as that is a whole different ball of wax.  However, the Moco tried to prevent dealers from selling on ebay, Amazon and similar sites as well as advertising deep discounts on their own sites. The Moco is attempting to "regionalize" sales to force people into their local dealer as opposed to ordering over the net.  They've also forced dealers to discontinue wholesale discounts to indy repair shops.

fortunately, for the moment, the Moco lost the internet battle.  They've also precluded dealers from advertising discount sales on current parts.  It's getting like marshall rule????

Yes, it is getting like martial law - wonder when they'll try to impose a curfew on when we can ride?  ;)   But I can't see how what they are doing is legal, I really can't.  If they were in Europe, their only recourse would be to fire dealers who went against them, but even that would be open to a legal challenge I think.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on January 25, 2012, 05:08:57 AM
the St. Paul H-D sv Harley-Davidson Inc case (http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2011/11/30/st-paul-harley-dealer-wins-ruling-on.html) is still pending.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 25, 2012, 05:19:48 AM
the St. Paul H-D sv Harley-Davidson Inc case (http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2011/11/30/st-paul-harley-dealer-wins-ruling-on.html) is still pending.

I wasn't aware of that, Hans.  It's great that one dealer had the cojones to stand up to them, shame more didn't join in the action!  :2vrolijk_21:

Since it says "U.S. District Judge Patrick Schiltz on Monday ordered Milwaukee-based Harley-Davidson Motor Co not to enforce its ban on sales of parts, accessories and apparel through third-party websites or to international customers. The judge's order is effective through Feb. 29." 

I'm surprised that other dealerships have just bent over and grabbed the edge of the table, instead of business as usual....


Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: mrmagloo on January 26, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
I suspect the reason is, even if the dealer prevails, HD has a number of ways to retailiate against the trouble makers.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on January 26, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
I suspect the reason is, even if the dealer prevails, HD has a number of ways to retailiate against the trouble makers.

Sadly so. >:(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BONES - USMVMC on January 28, 2012, 08:08:18 AM
Rumor has it Adventure HD out of Dover, Ohio purchased Liberty HD in Akron, Ohio and will be moving Liberty HD to Chapel Hill in Akron and it will be called Rubber City HD. I am thinking this is a good thing. If anyone has been to Liberty HD, its location is not the best. Chapel Hill is a much better location.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: golaith69 on February 01, 2012, 10:09:56 AM
hello all . i  have also heard that SUBURBAN H.D. AND CHICAGO H.D.  also have class-action lawsuits against harley.. that have been going on for a few months now..
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on February 01, 2012, 10:15:53 AM
hello all . i  have also heard that SUBURBAN H.D. AND CHICAGO H.D.  also have class-action lawsuits against harley.. that have been going on for a few months now..

The more the merrier!  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on February 01, 2012, 11:13:35 AM
hello all . i  have also heard that SUBURBAN H.D. AND CHICAGO H.D.  also have class-action lawsuits against harley.. that have been going on for a few months now..

How could one or two dealers file a class action suit?  If a judge were to certify a class it would, by definition, involve more than that as a plaintiff group.  Even without using PACER a Google search for either dealer name and "class action" brings nothing up.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: JCZ on February 01, 2012, 11:19:39 AM
Devil Mountain Harley Davidson in Antioch, Ca. has closed.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: harley56 on February 01, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
Devil Mountain Harley Davidson in Antioch, Ca. has closed.

True, this was their satellite store, they still have their main store in Walnut Creek, CA.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: danner55 on February 01, 2012, 08:20:38 PM
St. Augustine Fl. closed the doors on Febuary 1.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 01, 2012, 08:38:52 PM
St. Augustine Fl. closed the doors on Febuary 1.

Too bad that they couldn't hold on till Bike Week!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Limited Lou on February 02, 2012, 05:10:26 PM
St. Augustine Fl. closed the doors on Febuary 1.

Not a Harley Dealership any longer. Still have doors open to sell used bikes and what's left. I go by it every day...
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: danner55 on February 02, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
Thanks for the update. I was there saturday & was told they were closing the doors on Febuary 1st. That's good to know. I'll still stop in when I'm down that way!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: grayghost731 on February 02, 2012, 09:32:52 PM
Detroit Harley closed jan 1 in centerline MI   All HD emblems pulled off building

Drove by there today it is now called DETROIT CYCLE  no  longer a HARLEY dealership  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 2018_FLTRXSE on February 02, 2012, 10:05:39 PM
There's a small dealership here that will no longer be an HD dealership effective March 1 2012. Sad.. they have one of the most active HOG Chapters in the state.


I understand there may be some changes regarding the one chapter per dealer rule in the HOG charter.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: acevtwin on February 03, 2012, 09:34:25 AM
Detroit Harley closed jan 1 in centerline MI   All HD emblems pulled off building

Drove by there today it is now called DETROIT CYCLE  no  longer a HARLEY dealership  :nixweiss:
Wow, that sucks. I guess we still have Motorcity HD.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Limited Lou on February 03, 2012, 07:06:39 PM
Thanks for the update. I was there saturday & was told they were closing the doors on Febuary 1st. That's good to know. I'll still stop in when I'm down that way!

I don't know how long they'll be there. I'm gonna try and stop in,in the morning. Not a whole lot left. A leather jacket I liked if the price gets better.....
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: red ben59 on February 05, 2012, 04:04:50 PM
Damn
I don't know how long they'll be there. I'm gonna try and stop in,in the morning. Not a whole lot left. A leather jacket I liked if the price gets better.....
Go there every time I come down for bike week :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on February 13, 2012, 08:59:20 PM
TORONTO HARLEY will be closing it's doors on April 9th.

Starting today everything in the store id 50% off.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 14, 2012, 09:30:21 AM
TORONTO HARLEY will be closing it's doors on April 9th.

Starting today everything in the store id 50% off.

I just heard the same thing this morning... I was also told that the 50% off was on bikes as well.  Even though they didn't have any 2012's to sell, apparently their "new" 09's, 10's & 11's all sold yesterday with the deep discounts offered.

Any truth to that statement Mano?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 14, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
It appears that I just answered my own question...

http://hdto.com/
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 14, 2012, 01:00:44 PM
Update on Harley-Davidson of Toronto...

I have just learned that yesterday morning at 9:00am the staff at HD of Toronto were informed that the dealership doors are closing on April 9th and that they could or any of their friends and clients are welcome to make use of the 50% off sale beginning right then.

By 10:00am (1 hour after the announcement) all bikes in the store had been sold!

Now there's just clothing, collectables and some parts remaining to sell.

The store is almost empty!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Big Dog on February 14, 2012, 02:14:51 PM
Update on Harley-Davidson of Toronto...

I have just learned that yesterday morning at 9:00am the staff at HD of Toronto were informed that the dealership doors are closing on April 9th and that they could or any of their friends and clients are welcome to make use of the 50% off sale beginning right then.

By 10:00am (1 hour after the announcement) all bikes in the store had been sold!

Now there's just clothing, collectables and some parts remaining to sell.

The store is almost empty!

That was a brand new building wasn't it within the last two-three years? That'll be a hit. :nervous:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 14, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
That was a brand new building wasn't it within the last two-three years? That'll be a hit. :nervous:

No kidding... I heard that they had $18m into it!  :o
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on February 14, 2012, 09:46:45 PM
Update on Harley-Davidson of Toronto...

I have just learned that yesterday morning at 9:00am the staff at HD of Toronto were informed that the dealership doors are closing on April 9th and that they could or any of their friends and clients are welcome to make use of the 50% off sale beginning right then.

By 10:00am (1 hour after the announcement) all bikes in the store had been sold!

Now there's just clothing, collectables and some parts remaining to sell.

The store is almost empty!

Yes, this is true. I got a text at about 10:30 am. I was at work by the time I got there it was 4:00 pm and all the good stuff was gone. I seen 2 guys from other Harley dealerships there and they where buying everything. They are probably going to put it all back on there shelfs at regular price. I heard that one guy bought 3 bikes on his credit card. Probably going to flip those who knows. I got some shirts and a leather jacket that was priced at $860 + tax for 225 +tax.

My biggest concern when i got there was my bike. It is there for the audio repair and i was terrified at the thought of what will happen. I talked with the mechanic and he assured me that he will have it ready for me by the end of the week. I will feel better once it is back in my garage.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on February 14, 2012, 11:02:47 PM
Yes, this is true. I got a text at about 10:30 am. I was at work by the time I got there it was 4:00 pm and all the good stuff was gone. I seen 2 guys from other Harley dealerships there and they where buying everything. They are probably going to put it all back on there shelfs at regular price. I heard that one guy bought 3 bikes on his credit card. Probably going to flip those who knows. I got some shirts and a leather jacket that was priced at $860 + tax for 225 +tax.

My biggest concern when i got there was my bike. It is there for the audio repair and i was terrified at the thought of what will happen. I talked with the mechanic and he assured me that he will have it ready for me by the end of the week. I will feel better once it is back in my garage.

Hey Mano,
I'm certain everything will work out for you and your bike will be as good as new when you have it back... The people who have their bikes in storage with them had better get in touch with them because I can't see them lasting until April 9th.  :nixweiss:

BTW, which dealerships were the two guys you saw out of?  Were they buying bikes or just parts and accessories?  I'd be surprised if a dealer didn't buy a bunch of bikes.

You maybe counting the days, but again I'm sure you'll get your bike back on time.

Take care,
Grizzly
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: MUFFMAN on February 15, 2012, 05:10:46 AM
I priced out a new CVO @ there old Dealership on Front Street in 07. They were $2,000 more than anyone. They have , or had, the Rossmeyer mentality.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on February 15, 2012, 05:14:48 AM
New owner for Liberty Harley, Akron (http://www.ohio.com/business/new-owner-for-liberty-harley-1.264884).
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Limited Lou on February 15, 2012, 06:46:34 AM
I priced out a new CVO @ there old Dealership on Front Street in 07. They were $2,000 more than anyone. They have , or had, the Rossmeyer mentality.

No, if they had the Rossmeyer mentality it would be $6,000.00 over MSRP..  They sell at msrp now supposedly. Their hurting like most are.. Dealers like that deserve to close...
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on February 15, 2012, 04:45:05 PM
Hey Mano,
I'm certain everything will work out for you and your bike will be as good as new when you have it back... The people who have their bikes in storage with them had better get in touch with them because I can't see them lasting until April 9th.  :nixweiss:

BTW, which dealerships were the two guys you saw out of?  Were they buying bikes or just parts and accessories?  I'd be surprised if a dealer didn't buy a bunch of bikes.

You maybe counting the days, but again I'm sure you'll get your bike back on time.

Take care,
Grizzly

I too am sure my bike will be fine. I have a real good relationship with the mechanic and he gave me his word. I trust him and plan to follow him where ever he goes.

The 2 guys were from Davis and Jacox. They bought everything. Most of the good stuff was piled up behind the counters and in the offices. As for the bikes I heard today that there were all bought up in 20 min by a biker club. Who knows. All I know is that the sale was planed to start on the 14th and it started on the 13th. That means friends of friends and all those in the "loop" where there to buy all the good stuff.

I plan to be riding my bike home on Friday or Saturday. I plan to go by after work tomorrow just to see whats going on and if there is any good stuff left.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on February 16, 2012, 06:43:52 PM
I just heard the same thing this morning... I was also told that the 50% off was on bikes as well.  Even though they didn't have any 2012's to sell, apparently their "new" 09's, 10's & 11's all sold yesterday with the deep discounts offered.

Any truth to that statement Mano?

Went back today. All current year bikes were sold at just below list. All others new and used where 50% off.

The place is almost empty now.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RonS on March 21, 2012, 09:16:13 PM
Here's the dealer numbers from H-D, printed in the investors relationship info and available off their website.

Seems that with all the change things stay fairly level in the number of dealerships, down 33 from the 2008 high of 686.  The Secondary retail are also down 28 from a high of 104 in 2007 which certainly adds to the total number of stores closed but still not extremely dramatic in my mind, these are not the mall locations but satellite retail units.

Mall stores "alternative" retail outlets in H-D lingo are actually up to 86 from 2007 low number of 68 which offsets some of the secondary retail store loss as mall stores are owned by dealers as well.


Harley-Davidson Full Service Dealerships
           2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA       653   671   686  684   679
Canada   71     71     71    74    75

Secondary Retail Locations
             2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA          76    87   101  104   97
Canada      3     3      3      2     2

Alternative Retail Outlets
       2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA    86    83    77   68    69
Canada 3    5      3     8      2
 

http://investor.harley-davidson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=87981&p=irol-dealerships&locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US


 

 

Thanks for that info, and especially for the link to the investor site.  When they update that to include 2011 results, we'll be able to see how this year has been for HD overall.
The numbers have been released for 2011, not so good:

Harley-Davidson Full Service Dealerships
             2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA        635  653   671   686  684   679
Canada     69    71    71     71    74    75

Secondary Retail Locations
              2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA           71   76    87   101  104   97
Canada        5    3     3      3      2     2

Alternative Retail Outlets
          2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
USA       85    86    83    77   68    69
Canada    5     3    5      3     8      2
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: murphy on March 31, 2012, 05:47:03 PM
Just got a letter from Deeley Canada,  Toronto HD will be shutting down effective April 9th... they were one of the biggest dealers in our area.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on March 31, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Just got a letter from Deeley Canada,  Toronto HD will be shutting down effective April 9th... they were one of the biggest dealers in our area.

By 'biggest" I'm certain you are referring to square footage... They never really could compete with the other dealers in the area, which is just one reason why they are gone.  Apparently there hasn't been much there for weeks now, no Internet and I'm not sure if they are even answering the phone, so it will be something if they hang on till April 9th???

It is very unfortunate that Canada's largest city now has no Harley dealer within their boundaries.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: murphy on March 31, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
Yep... always heard that it was size that mattered!

Not sure what the real scoop is on the closure yet, but you're right... a buddy was there last week and said that the walls were bare.

Timing is interesting as well, they just moved into the new building a few short years ago.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on March 31, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
By 'biggest" I'm certain you are referring to square footage... They never really could compete with the other dealers in the area, which is just one reason why they are gone.  Apparently there hasn't been much there for weeks now, no Internet and I'm not sure if they are even answering the phone, so it will be something if they hang on till April 9th???

It is very unfortunate that Canada's largest city now has no Harley dealer within their boundaries.

When visiting the Toronto dealership a couple years ago, I was disappointed in the store...  I was expecting a more comprehensive place...  What are the dominant dealerships in the Toronto area?   :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on March 31, 2012, 07:27:46 PM
18 million is what that place cost but the truth is that they were not selling enough bikes. Come to think of it there service was not that great ether. What they could not fix on my bike in over 8 months another dealer did it in 7 days.....that included waiting for parts.

I was told that the Lamborghini dealership next door will stay open. It is owned by the same guy.

As for the city of Toronto not having a Harley dealership that is to be seen. I belong to the Toronto H.O.G. Chapter and at our last meeting we were asked to sit tight and keep the group together. We are thinking that another Harley dealer will be opening up but this cannot be confirmed.....time will tell....as they say "it will all come out in the wash".
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on March 31, 2012, 07:32:58 PM
When visiting the Toronto dealership a couple years ago, I was disappointed in the store...  I was expecting a more comprehensive place...  What are the dominant dealerships in the Toronto area?   :nixweiss:
.

How long ago was your visit? If it was the one on Front Street yes that was small but if it was the on on Lawrence Ave that place was huge. It even had the one of the biggest B&S signs in North America.

We still have Mackie in the east, Davies in the north and Jacox in the west.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on March 31, 2012, 07:44:29 PM
.

How long ago was your visit? If it was the one on Front Street yes that was small but if it was the on on Lawrence Ave that place was huge. It even had the one of the biggest B&S signs in North America.

We still have Mackie in the east, Davies in the north and Jacox in the west.

The dealership we visited was on Front Street.... 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: murphy on March 31, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
Here's the new place:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=toronto+harley+davidson+lawrence&hl=en&ll=43.741045,-79.321849&spn=0.000031,0.013797&gbv=2&fb=1&gl=ca&hq=toronto+harley+davidson+lawrence&cid=0,0,6822630150678414019&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.741045,-79.321849&panoid=oqY-z0GopZHDT_dpQuYetA&cbp=12,182.32,,0,4.48
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: sadunbar on March 31, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
Here's the new place:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=toronto+harley+davidson+lawrence&hl=en&ll=43.741045,-79.321849&spn=0.000031,0.013797&gbv=2&fb=1&gl=ca&hq=toronto+harley+davidson+lawrence&cid=0,0,6822630150678414019&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.741045,-79.321849&panoid=oqY-z0GopZHDT_dpQuYetA&cbp=12,182.32,,0,4.48


How old is this dealership?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: murphy on March 31, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
If I recall correctly the new place opened up in early 2009.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on April 01, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
Here's the new place:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=toronto+harley+davidson+lawrence&hl=en&ll=43.741045,-79.321849&spn=0.000031,0.013797&gbv=2&fb=1&gl=ca&hq=toronto+harley+davidson+lawrence&cid=0,0,6822630150678414019&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.741045,-79.321849&panoid=oqY-z0GopZHDT_dpQuYetA&cbp=12,182.32,,0,4.48


Yup, it sure looks empty.

I've been informed that Deeley (H-D Canada) has confirmed that there will be no dealership in Toronto in the forseeable future.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Twolanerider on April 01, 2012, 10:22:23 PM
Yup, it sure looks empty.

I've been informed that Deeley (H-D Canada) has confirmed that there will be no dealership in Toronto in the forseeable future.

That's just screwed up.  No way in hell that a modern Western nation's largest city with a metro population around, what, 5.5 million (?) can't make a Harley dealership go.  Does that speak to the "enhanced" prices that are due to Deeley with Toronto being so close to the international border?  Or is something else going on?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: murphy on April 01, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
The "Deeley Tax" has long been a bone of contention here, stuff that can cost you south of the border one price can cost us double here... it must be similar to what our friends in Europe experience, but at least there is some justification for the distance it must travel there first.

Others hit the nail on the head when relaying Toronto's attitude towards the customer, but I can't help to think the way Deeley behaves had a lot to do with it as well.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on April 02, 2012, 12:06:13 AM
I believe it has more to do with going too big without the business to support it.

For one reason or another they just couldn't bring in the customer base required to support a 60,000 square foot, very expensive building that was "done up to the nines"... No doubt about it, they did everything 1st class except the running of a business.  That building was beautiful throughout with nothing done on the cheap.  From what I heard at any given point in their new location they had over $1 Million in Motorclothes in stock!  That all cost money and there just wasn't enough coming in to support it.

I was told the long before they moved from their Front Street location that they were in financial trouble and put on C.O.D. with their suppliers, including Deeley.  Apparently when a customer required a part to be installed on their bike when it was being serviced, the customer had to pay upfront for the part so TOHD had the money to buy it from Deeley or wherever the part was ordered from.

I don't know how true that is, but if it was it is one heck of a tough way to run a business.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on April 02, 2012, 05:54:07 AM
similar to what our friends in Europe experience, but at least there is some justification for the distance it must travel there first.

It's quite simply MoCo (and in your case Deeley, in our case HD Europe) pure greed, I think Murff.  The prices here - and perhaps there in Canada - are simply unbelievable.  Items are already seriously overpriced at US prices and we are asked to pay so much more that in terms of justifying it by distance travelled, they could have their own luxury round-the-world cruise for the extra!

A couple of examples:

58260-09CZA outer batwing fairing.  US price (with discount, of course) $589.60.  UK price $1667.50 at current exchange rate, inc tax.
91951-07 LH mirror. US price $102.40.  UK price $289.62 (For ONE freakin' mirror!!!!)

And one that really takes the biscuit.  The little chrome strip round the front edge of HDI bikes.  Just a little chrome strip with sticky tape on it. Pretty plain, and not very big.

59280-02 Fender Tip, HDI.  US Price $120 (bad enough!!!!)  UK price $339.38 (WTF???  $340 for a little chrome strip????  Are they crazy??)


I'd love to know what you are being asked to pay for these part #s in Canada, Murff.

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Skillet on April 02, 2012, 05:59:52 AM
Mighty expensive. The prices in Korea are right at double that of the US prices. Thankfully I don't have to pay them. Man you guys are dedicated.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on April 02, 2012, 06:03:42 AM
Mighty expensive. The prices in Korea are right at double that of the US prices. Thankfully I don't have to pay them. Man you guys are dedicated.

I refuse to pay UK prices too, Skillet. The prices here are an insult to my intelligence, and I've vowed no more bikes, no more parts at the current prices.  >:(

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: cold1 on April 02, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
 I feel your pain, (endangered species term comes to mind) for longevity, :wall:  there is always "PLAN B"  :nixweiss: "jus sayn"
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on April 02, 2012, 03:31:45 PM
It's quite simply MoCo (and in your case Deeley, in our case HD Europe) pure greed, I think Murff.  The prices here - and perhaps there in Canada - are simply unbelievable.  Items are already seriously overpriced at US prices and we are asked to pay so much more that in terms of justifying it by distance travelled, they could have their own luxury round-the-world cruise for the extra!

A couple of examples:

58260-09CZA outer batwing fairing.  US price (with discount, of course) $589.60.  UK price $1667.50 at current exchange rate, inc tax.
91951-07 LH mirror. US price $102.40.  UK price $289.62 (For ONE freakin' mirror!!!!)

And one that really takes the biscuit.  The little chrome strip round the front edge of HDI bikes.  Just a little chrome strip with sticky tape on it. Pretty plain, and not very big.

59280-02 Fender Tip, HDI.  US Price $120 (bad enough!!!!)  UK price $339.38 (WTF???  $340 for a little chrome strip????  Are they crazy??)


I'd love to know what you are being asked to pay for these part #s in Canada, Murff.

Jim

Here you go Jim...

Canadian prices including 13% (GST + PST) tax in Ontario

58260-09CZA  $983.04
91951-07   $198.82
59280-02   $233.85

More than U.S. but less than U.K. pricing.


The best has to be tires... I can spend $880 (tax in) at a US dealer and equip mine AND my wife's Ultras with new tires or
I can spend $866.14 (tax in) to do one bike in Ontario.  So for $13.85 more I get TWO for the price of ONE!   :o

BTW, lately the CND$ has been slightly above the US$ so there's no exchange to be concerned with.

Naturally when we require new tires we plan for a road trip south of the border.  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on April 03, 2012, 04:52:01 AM
Here you go Jim...

Canadian prices including 13% (GST + PST) tax in Ontario

58260-09CZA  $983.04
91951-07   $198.82
59280-02   $233.85

More than U.S. but less than U.K. pricing.


The best has to be tires... I can spend $880 (tax in) at a US dealer and equip mine AND my wife's Ultras with new tires or
I can spend $866.14 (tax in) to do one bike in Ontario.  So for $13.85 more I get TWO for the price of ONE!   :o

BTW, lately the CND$ has been slightly above the US$ so there's no exchange to be concerned with.

Naturally when we require new tires we plan for a road trip south of the border.  :2vrolijk_21:

Thanks Grizz.  The old "Deeley Tax" is plainly enough to make ol' Trev a very wealthy man!  (Even taking the 13% tax - ours is 20% - off).  Lucky you are close enough to head south though. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

Tyres here (thought you Canadians would spell it like we do!) are crazy money too, as you might guess.

Jim
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: charles05663 on April 03, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
The "Deeley Tax" has long been a bone of contention here, stuff that can cost you south of the border one price can cost us double here... it must be similar to what our friends in Europe experience, but at least there is some justification for the distance it must travel there first.

Others hit the nail on the head when relaying Toronto's attitude towards the customer, but I can't help to think the way Deeley behaves had a lot to do with it as well.

Isn't Europe close to China then the USA and or Canada?   :oops: :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on April 03, 2012, 12:01:10 PM
I like getting the HD catalogue from Deeley.....then I go to the US and buy stuff. I use my local dealer for trying things on for size....won't use their service dept either. But, then my local dealer's shop is incompetent and always defensive about their incompetence.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: timo482 on April 03, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
europe is farther, parts go from china to the us, then to europe - full circle !

ya thats why they cost so much - and some parts must go to canada via europe & they average the price out

 ;D
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: CVO2FIXUP on April 04, 2012, 08:11:47 PM
  Toronto Harley Davidson. This is in Toronto Canada, our biggest, newest HD dealer. Only 2 years in it's new location. The owner stopped paying his bills and stopped paying Harley for there bikes!!  So HD pulled the owners dealer licence to sell HD's. Lucky we have a few more dealers with in 30 min or so. Cheers.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wild Card on April 05, 2012, 10:18:55 AM
Valparaiso, IN Harley (http://www.hdvalpo.com/) just hired the old owner of Crete, IL Harley onto their sales team.  Crete was one of the dealers that had to close in the IL area in Oct of 2010.  He was close to retirement, but apparently not close enough. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: 2018_FLTRXSE on April 08, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
18 million is what that place cost but the truth is that they were not selling enough bikes. Come to think of it there service was not that great ether. What they could not fix on my bike in over 8 months another dealer did it in 7 days.....that included waiting for parts.

I was told that the Lamborghini dealership next door will stay open. It is owned by the same guy.

As for the city of Toronto not having a Harley dealership that is to be seen. I belong to the Toronto H.O.G. Chapter and at our last meeting we were asked to sit tight and keep the group together. We are thinking that another Harley dealer will be opening up but this cannot be confirmed.....time will tell....as they say "it will all come out in the wash".

We lost a small local dealer here as well... that dealership had one of the best HOG chapters in the state... HOG told us to sit tight.. something is in the works... they were allowed to keep the charter through the end of the year... lets see what washes out.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SHD on April 09, 2012, 06:05:05 PM
I'm on a 'break' in Arizona and stopped by Superstition HD in Apache Junction.....they quit doing rentals Dec 1st.....not very much for Motor Clothes....and less than half a showroom of bikes with a bunch of those being the rental fleet for sale. Makes me wonder how long they will last.
 
Chester's in Mesa looks like business as usual.

As, Owner/Dealer Principal of Superstition Harley-Davidson, part of my responsibilities is keeping my finger on the pulse of all things Harley-Davidson.  I have to say that I was surprised by your post and wanted to personally address your concerns.   Let me start by saying that Superstition Harley-Davidson is not closing.  We have chosen to discontinue rentals because it’s a very seasonal portion of our business. What most folks don’t realize is that a rental department requires more than just having bikes available to rent. There’s staffing of the department, insurance, repairs and maintenance whether the bikes are on the road or not.  Our decommissioned rental bikes have always been fast sellers because of the standards we uphold in maintaining them.  We decided that our capital was better used for continued education of current employees and hiring more staff to meet our customers’ expectations.
 
It seems, by the date of your post, that you were here in the height of the Christmas buying season.  It’s a very busy time of year for us in all our departments and getting merchandise to the floor as fast as we sell it is an “all hands on deck” proposition.  We won’t sacrifice our high standard of customer service during business hours so our Motorclothes & General Merchandise are restocked before or after close of business during high season.  If you don’t see something, please ask. One of our Sales Associates will happily answer any questions.
 
I understand your confusion about the number of bikes on the floor!  The simple answer is this – the Motor Company controls when bikes are shipped.  Sometimes the inventory is out of balance because we’ve sold more new bikes than we were shipped in a given time.  Higher sales = lower inventory.  When that happens, a deposit is all that’s needed to claim one of the bikes that are on the way from Harley-Davidson. 
 
I hope I’ve addressed your concerns and we look forward to seeing you on your next 'break'.  Be well & ride safe!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mano on April 09, 2012, 06:06:34 PM
We lost a small local dealer here as well... that dealership had one of the best HOG chapters in the state... HOG told us to sit tight.. something is in the works... they were allowed to keep the charter through the end of the year... lets see what washes out.

Toronto Harley officially closed today.

As for our H.O.G. Chapter an email went out yesterday saying that H.O.G. Canada and the other 3 dealerships in the city will decide the fate of the Toronto Chapter.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: FLHTCUSE7 on April 09, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
So to twist this a little. How many dealers have closed because other dealers infringed on their territories?

Apparently St. Paul HD thinks they can sell to the world ( and most here seem to think that's okay). Now a dealer in Toronto is closed. So if you live in Toronto and purchased parts from St. Paul HD you contributed to this. And subsequently you can now service your bike in MN :oops:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: SBB on April 09, 2012, 07:33:20 PM
As, Owner/Dealer Principal of Superstition Harley-Davidson, part of my responsibilities is keeping my finger on the pulse of all things Harley-Davidson.  I have to say that I was surprised by your post and wanted to personally address your concerns.   Let me start by saying that Superstition Harley-Davidson is not closing.  We have chosen to discontinue rentals because it’s a very seasonal portion of our business. What most folks don’t realize is that a rental department requires more than just having bikes available to rent. There’s staffing of the department, insurance, repairs and maintenance whether the bikes are on the road or not.  Our decommissioned rental bikes have always been fast sellers because of the standards we uphold in maintaining them.  We decided that our capital was better used for continued education of current employees and hiring more staff to meet our customers’ expectations.
 
It seems, by the date of your post, that you were here in the height of the Christmas buying season.  It’s a very busy time of year for us in all our departments and getting merchandise to the floor as fast as we sell it is an “all hands on deck” proposition.  We won’t sacrifice our high standard of customer service during business hours so our Motorclothes & General Merchandise are restocked before or after close of business during high season.  If you don’t see something, please ask. One of our Sales Associates will happily answer any questions.
 
I understand your confusion about the number of bikes on the floor!  The simple answer is this – the Motor Company controls when bikes are shipped.  Sometimes the inventory is out of balance because we’ve sold more new bikes than we were shipped in a given time.  Higher sales = lower inventory.  When that happens, a deposit is all that’s needed to claim one of the bikes that are on the way from Harley-Davidson. 
 
I hope I’ve addressed your concerns and we look forward to seeing you on your next 'break'.  Be well & ride safe!



SHD, great first post.
Dealers that conduct business in a manner like your post above  earn my business.
As a loyal customer of Harley Davidson of Charlotte I'm a long way from your store but will make an effort to stop in and shop at your store if ever in the area.
Welcome to the site and glad you are here!

 SBB




Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on April 09, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
As, Owner/Dealer Principal of Superstition Harley-Davidson, part of my responsibilities is keeping my finger on the pulse of all things Harley-Davidson.  I have to say that I was surprised by your post and wanted to personally address your concerns.   Let me start by saying that Superstition Harley-Davidson is not closing.  We have chosen to discontinue rentals because it’s a very seasonal portion of our business. What most folks don’t realize is that a rental department requires more than just having bikes available to rent. There’s staffing of the department, insurance, repairs and maintenance whether the bikes are on the road or not.  Our decommissioned rental bikes have always been fast sellers because of the standards we uphold in maintaining them.  We decided that our capital was better used for continued education of current employees and hiring more staff to meet our customers’ expectations.
 
It seems, by the date of your post, that you were here in the height of the Christmas buying season.  It’s a very busy time of year for us in all our departments and getting merchandise to the floor as fast as we sell it is an “all hands on deck” proposition.  We won’t sacrifice our high standard of customer service during business hours so our Motorclothes & General Merchandise are restocked before or after close of business during high season.  If you don’t see something, please ask. One of our Sales Associates will happily answer any questions.
 
I understand your confusion about the number of bikes on the floor!  The simple answer is this – the Motor Company controls when bikes are shipped.  Sometimes the inventory is out of balance because we’ve sold more new bikes than we were shipped in a given time.  Higher sales = lower inventory.  When that happens, a deposit is all that’s needed to claim one of the bikes that are on the way from Harley-Davidson.  
 
I hope I’ve addressed your concerns and we look forward to seeing you on your next 'break'.  Be well & ride safe!


I agree with the above post... Excellent response SHD with your first post.

I'm also pleased to see that Superstition Harley-Davidson is very much alive and well!  I've stopped in there a few times over the past number of years while riding in Arizona and on every visit I was very impressed with not just your beautiful location, but with the friendly service I received.

Next time we're in the area you can count on another visit from my wife and I.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: CVOThunder on April 10, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
Cool, I'll have to visit SHD when I'm in the area.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: CVOThunder on April 10, 2012, 04:35:24 PM
Another shop I'll consider is New Castle H-D in PA. A team from Zanotti's old store is there performing some of the same functions. http://shop.newcastlehd.com/. Check with CJ and I had good transactions (response, shipping times and price) with them.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on April 10, 2012, 05:09:14 PM
So to twist this a little. How many dealers have closed because other dealers infringed on their territories?

Apparently St. Paul HD thinks they can sell to the world ( and most here seem to think that's okay). Now a dealer in Toronto is closed. So if you live in Toronto and purchased parts from St. Paul HD you contributed to this. And subsequently you can now service your bike in MN :oops:
Maybe, here in Canada the dealerships don't believe in making a bit off of each sale. Instead, it would appear that a large profit needs to be made off of each individual sale. When in my local HD store, I keep my a$$ against a wall!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on April 10, 2012, 05:14:32 PM
As, Owner/Dealer Principal of Superstition Harley-Davidson, part of my responsibilities is keeping my finger on the pulse of all things Harley-Davidson.  I have to say that I was surprised by your post and wanted to personally address your concerns.   Let me start by saying that Superstition Harley-Davidson is not closing.  We have chosen to discontinue rentals because it’s a very seasonal portion of our business. What most folks don’t realize is that a rental department requires more than just having bikes available to rent. There’s staffing of the department, insurance, repairs and maintenance whether the bikes are on the road or not.  Our decommissioned rental bikes have always been fast sellers because of the standards we uphold in maintaining them.  We decided that our capital was better used for continued education of current employees and hiring more staff to meet our customers’ expectations.
 
It seems, by the date of your post, that you were here in the height of the Christmas buying season.  It’s a very busy time of year for us in all our departments and getting merchandise to the floor as fast as we sell it is an “all hands on deck” proposition.  We won’t sacrifice our high standard of customer service during business hours so our Motorclothes & General Merchandise are restocked before or after close of business during high season.  If you don’t see something, please ask. One of our Sales Associates will happily answer any questions.
 
I understand your confusion about the number of bikes on the floor!  The simple answer is this – the Motor Company controls when bikes are shipped.  Sometimes the inventory is out of balance because we’ve sold more new bikes than we were shipped in a given time.  Higher sales = lower inventory.  When that happens, a deposit is all that’s needed to claim one of the bikes that are on the way from Harley-Davidson. 
 
I hope I’ve addressed your concerns and we look forward to seeing you on your next 'break'.  Be well & ride safe!

Yes, you did. Thanks for the response.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on April 12, 2012, 10:32:29 AM
one Chicago suburb loses Harley dealership to another (http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/article/articleList.jsp?sort=null&pageNo=2&start=9&categoryId=48447).
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Wild Card on April 12, 2012, 10:48:35 AM
one Chicago suburb loses Harley dealership to another (http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/article/articleList.jsp?sort=null&pageNo=2&start=9&categoryId=48447).

Ah, I thought that new dealership was a bit close to the Berwyn one!  Thanks. 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: jimp on July 12, 2012, 07:50:32 AM

All I can say is WOW.

http://www.psnnewsletter.com/newsletters/73761_2012_7_11_2_50_42.html


Quote
FLETCHER'S HARLEY-DAVIDSON TO CLOSE

Clearwater, Florida (07/11/2012) - Fletcher's Harley-Davidson, Clearwater, Florida announced today that it will close its store after 48 years in business. Co-owners, Laura Fletcher, Peggy McFarland, and Sherry Conder, say "they would like to thank their loyal employees and customers for the best years of their lives while operating Fletcher's Harley-Davidson."


Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Robmay on July 12, 2012, 06:25:58 PM
All I can say is WOW.

http://www.psnnewsletter.com/newsletters/73761_2012_7_11_2_50_42.html



Such a shame. :(
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: BALIS on July 18, 2012, 03:12:46 PM
Brussels Harley-Davidson has lost his bar & shield become effective as from the 1st of September 2012. Harley -Davidson Benelux is momentarily the sponsor of the chapter.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: MadCVORG on July 21, 2012, 06:04:14 AM
Sad to see Brussels closing. Dealt with them a few years back when my Fat Boy had issues; they took it in and had me on the road within the hour. Good crew there.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: kraut on July 25, 2012, 06:01:37 PM
Bruxelles without a dealer? Unbelievable  :nervous:
Title: Fletchers HD - Clearwater to Close
Post by: CVODON on August 04, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Got a email last month saying Fletchers HD in Clearwater Fl is closing, been there 48 years. Went there today as everything except bikes is now 30% off. Mr Fletcher had passed away earlier this summer but his daughters had operated the business for several years. I had heard the girls were just giving up without his guidance but today parts guy stated HD came in after his passing and let them know they needed another 1 Mil update or new building and the sales people needed to retrain for aggression or be replaced. So they closed instead, HD and parking lot sign as well as service dept are already gone, stock being sold off. Just very sad, lots of good guys worked there, hate to see them without a job.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Big Dog on September 28, 2012, 11:44:53 PM
Hate to see this dealership go, were great to deal with, parts and service for me anyway, I purchased quite a bit from them, great place to stop in and chat, and made me feel more welcome than two Canadian dealerships I go to. Thanks Greg and staff for your service, hope to get out there before the end of October.



This Press Release is going out today. But I want to personal thank each & everyone of you for being who you are and supporting this dealership. I want to invite each of you so we can share stories and reminiscence about the past

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Thanks for riding Harley-Davidson Motorcycles!

Greg Head, Owner


Mt. Baker Harley-Davidson closing Bellingham store

 

Mt. Baker Harley-Davidson in Bellingham will be closing this fall, owner Greg Head announced today.

Head, owner of Mt. Baker Harley-Davidson at 1421 N. State St., said, "It was a difficult decision to close. We've been successful since I took over in early 2010 due to fantastic employees and tremendously loyal Harley-Davidson riders." Head adds, "With our lease ending soon, we first considered a new and larger location. However, in working with Harley-Davidson, a market analysis revealed limited opportunities for further growth."

"The decision to close has been very personal for us since many of the employees and customers are considered close friends. It's been a pleasure serving our customers and we thank them," said Head.

Mt. Baker Harley-Davidson has 10 employees and some will be offered opportunities at other Harley-Davidson dealerships. All of the employees will receive assistance from the WorkSource Whatcom Career Center in seeking jobs and learning about available benefits and resources.

As for himself, Head said, "I feel honored to have been a Harley-Davidson dealer and our family looks forward to exploring other ways we can help more riders experience Harley-Davidson, the culture and the lifestyle it provides."

Since Head became owner of Mt. Baker Harley-Davidson, the store has supported numerous nonprofit organizations locally, including Toys for Tots, Lighthouse Mission and Agape House, WomenCare Shelter, Boys and Girls Club, Whatcom Humane Society, Whatcom County Hospice Foundation, and the Ryan Stiles Celebrity Golf Classic, a fundraiser for the Burned Children Recovery Foundation.

Mt. Baker Harley-Davidson will cease being a Harley-Davidson Dealership on Oct. 31.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on September 29, 2012, 12:27:32 AM
Darn...too bad about Mt Baker.....just had my 8k service done there and they were great!...but am having a heck of a time getting the receipt for it. (Didn't want to cross the border with a copy on the bike or my person).
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: RJ749 on September 29, 2012, 11:13:35 AM
Tough environment to come into when they bought the dealership. 

They did well to hang on through tough times as well, with unemployment still high in the state and area a business dealing in products that are a discretionary purchase, a lot of decisions obviously had to be made when they needed to decide about a new facility.

Committing to multiple millions for a facility improvement would be difficult. 

The to see it go regardless.

Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: CVOJOE on September 30, 2012, 02:52:55 PM
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HD came in after his passing and let them know they needed another 1 Mil update or new building and the sales people needed to retrain for aggression or be replaced.
Now there's some real compassion being shown by the MOCO.  :2vrolijk_21:

Of course it's a business and they don't get their cut if sales are down and it's after a business, not a calling. "If I have to explain you wouldn't understand" only goes so far when people and their families are concerned. Cold business climate out there these days.  :soapbox:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on September 30, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
Darn...too bad about Mt Baker.....just had my 8k service done there and they were great!...but am having a heck of a time getting the receipt for it. (Didn't want to cross the border with a copy on the bike or my person).
Finally got it after 3 e-mails and 3 phone calls!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: woodman on October 28, 2012, 10:14:29 PM
RIP MT Baker HD. Good shop. Too bad.
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: FUNGOUL on December 15, 2012, 09:27:56 AM
ROSSMEYER FT LAUDERDALE HARLEY CLOSING
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eagle Eye on December 21, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
Well, just to put a positive spin on this tired subject.  Vandervest HD opened it's doors a few months ago in Greenbay, WI.  Hope they make it.  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: dayne66 on December 28, 2012, 03:03:44 PM
Check this out!  Click HERE (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=77283.msg1093352#msg1093352)!!!!
Which dealer is closing in this post?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Mountainman streetbob on December 28, 2012, 03:45:05 PM
I am surprised that Southern Thunder H-D hear in Horn Lake, Ms is still open. Service dept can't even change tires without screwing it up...  different bikes first hand experience 8 times over 3 years! All CVO's are $3k to $5k over msrp. Feel like I am getting slimed every time I go there. I live 3 miles from soluthern thunder and do 90% of my business with the 2 Bumpus dealerships 28 and 35 miles away!
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Kcoop on December 28, 2012, 08:07:00 PM
Legends Harley Davidson in Wenatchee, Washington closed on November 30th
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Grizzly on December 29, 2012, 09:31:11 AM
In just a few weeks it will be 3 years since this topic was started... It has definitely been tough on many businesses (all over the world) during this time.

I wonder how many dealerships have permanently closed vs. how many new dealerships have opened since January 2009?
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Eqcons on December 29, 2012, 05:02:14 PM
I wonder how many dealerships have permanently closed vs. how many new dealerships have opened since January 2009?

And how many have opened since 2009 and already closed!
Title: Lake Shore HD "SOLD"
Post by: 2k on November 21, 2013, 06:35:31 AM
Don't know it this will effect 20% deals or how they will run. Sometimes new owners have to put their handprint on things. Hope we don't lose Bill Sparks, he was a standup guy. I had placed and order one day before they closed for "annual inventory". Site says all prior orders will be filled?  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: WestCoastRuss on December 16, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Was looking for a specific jacket and came across this....anyone in this area heard about this store going away?



Thank you for visiting GRHarley.com!

Unfortunately, our store is now closed indefinitely.

We will no longer be placing any new orders.

If you have any current order inquiries, please email me.

Thank you for your years of business! We love you guys! 
Title: Re: HD Dealerships That Have Closed or Are Closing
Post by: Fatboy on December 16, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
Was looking for a specific jacket and came across this....anyone in this area heard about this store going away?



Thank you for visiting GRHarley.com!

Unfortunately, our store is now closed indefinitely.

We will no longer be placing any new orders.

If you have any current order inquiries, please email me.

Thank you for your years of business! We love you guys! 


These folks bought the former Kelley's Harley Davidson on 28th Street in Grand Rapids at the peak of Harley boom and moved it out a brand new state of the art multi-level facility in Hudsonville along the Interstate......must be once again the MOCO prescribed recipe for success didn't work in this market in the current economy. The previous owner sold because he said he wasn't going to let the MOCO ruin his business, guess he was right and was laughing all the way to the Bank.