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[PeterJ]

Yesterday my bike went from normal oil pressure to zero in a matter of a few miles. The oil light came on and the clutch lever became very slack. Stopped the bike and found there was no oil on the stick. Put a quart of oil in. Bike ran ok for 500 yards and then smoke, oil on the ground and very little clutch. Also a very nasty grating sound. I'll get the workshop's opinion on the damage next week. There is oil on the engine and oil on the ground below the engine but I can't see where it's come from. Some oil seall must have gone. And what on earth could have caused the oil pressure to drop so quickly? A holed sump? Who knows. There is still oil on the stick from what I put into the engine. I better start rounding up some cash to pay for the outcome of the diagnosis.

[2soaper]

Sorry man hope it all turns out for ya!

[trwtow]

best of luck

how many miles and was the motor stock

[ultrafxr]

Got an oil cooler?  Could be hose or debris could have punctured the cooler.  I know if two instances of this - one was mine.


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[PeterJ]

Standard 110 engine with oil cooler. Mileage is just on 19000 miles.
Just had the call from the dealership. Engine is cooked. Just had the call from HD Guildford. Metal in the sump tray. No point even stripping down the engine as it would be a waste of my money paying for their time. Gear box is OK. Appears that a lifter most likely failed.

[99c5pilot]

Ouch...... what year was your Street Glide? Hopefully a manufacturing issue and warranty will take care of it.....

[mjb765]

Ouch...... what year was your Street Glide? Hopefully a manufacturing issue and warranty will take care of it.....

His info says 2012 FLHXSE

[DALE#3]

Not good news...Hopefully you got coverage.

[PeterJ]

Like said the bike is a 2012 model. And no mechanical insurance in place.  Even if I had insurance I don't think it would pay out as it would be my word to say that the oil level was good and the pressure just dropped whilst the insurance company would say that I hadn't checked the oil level and that it would be my fault the engine failed. Insurance companies in GB are renowned for their slippery avoidance of paying out. 
One thing that the mechanic said after I told him that  I generally had to top up the oil level after every 1000 miles or so was that the engine may have had a problem prior to the catastrophic failure in that in his experience the HD engine didn't usually use any oil in between servicing intervals. Is this suggestion that the engine doesn't use oil the experience of the guys here on the forum?
So it's looking like an engine replacement. That's a big ouch to the wallet. Not sure if MoCo would supply a new 110 engine complete or whether the dealership would have to build the engine from MoCo supplied parts. Or do I go with the H-D SCREAMIN’ EAGLE 120ST CRATE MOTOR which I have read about in the on line sites. Not sure if I would get any more power by going from 110 to 120.  The write up for the 120 is impressive. Any knowledge on this 120 engine. ? http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/02/24/h-d-screamin-eagle-120st-crate-motor/
Ah well. I'm off to visit the workshop at midday to talk with the mechanic and the dealership principle.

[Kingspoke]

The 2012 CVO's have the "C" lifters, which have many failures, and probably are suspect in your case.  It is a shame that you have to replace your motor with only 19,000 miles.

I probably would consider and S&S 124 before I would put a 120ST in my bike.  Sorry to hear about that major set back.  Best wishes.

[mjb765]

The 2012 CVO's have the "C" lifters, which have many failures, and probably are suspect in your case.  It is a shame that you have to replace your motor with only 19,000 miles.

I probably would consider and S&S 124 before I would put a 120ST in my bike.  Sorry to hear about that major set back.  Best wishes.

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[Mano]

Ish...that sucks Peter but I believe if you did have the extended warranty the dealer would have replaced it. In 2012 on our way to Sturgis my buddies 2011 CVO Convertible split a lifter. We limped into Black Hills Harley Davidson. They found that the metal went thru the motor. 3 days later the bike was ready and the had put a new 110 in the bike for the $50.00 deductible. They also covered his rental, food and room. Here in Toronto I took my 2011 CVO SG to the dealer during the winter. My lifters where making a terrible sound but was still running. I had almost 100 000 KM and they rebuilt the motor under warranty. So I have seen it on both sides of the boarder.

I would never own a Harley without the warranty.

[PeterJ]

Thanks for your words above. Yeh I had read about the problems with the 110 engine but never thought that it would happen on my tour. Anyway. I've been by the dealership, seen the bike and mechanics and now am waiting to have a discussion with the Dealer principle before I decide which route to go. One thing for sure it wont be a new 110 going in - that's totally cost prohibitive. I know very little about the S & S 124 engine. Why would you suggest that the S & S be a better choice than the HD 120ST? Thanks.

[windjammer]

Rice Lake HD in WI has a brand new takeout 110 from a 2015 CBO Roadglide 0 miles for sale. Call scooter at 715-234-5400 for info. They are asking 5000.00 but I'm betting 3500.00 would get it.

[Unbalanced]

Thanks for your words above. Yeh I had read about the problems with the 110 engine but never thought that it would happen on my tour. Anyway. I've been by the dealership, seen the bike and mechanics and now am waiting to have a discussion with the Dealer principle before I decide which route to go. One thing for sure it wont be a new 110 going in - that's totally cost prohibitive. I know very little about the S & S 124 engine. Why would you suggest that the S & S be a better choice than the HD 120ST? Thanks.

I would suggest the 124 over the 120 because I own 2 of them and they are noisey motors, lifters need replacing lot of piston slap like the 110, don't really make the power they should, been more problematic than the S&S motors.  I have had great longevity the S&S.  Not saying you cant get a bad one, but hasn't been my experience thus far and have had their motors a long time.   Suggest a 124 low compression 10.25 to 1 with 585 cams a decent pipe, 58mm throttlebody by S&S and a good air cleaner and go ride it.