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« Reply #360 on: December 20, 2011, 10:00:19 PM » |
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Anybody have a source for this info, and update or correction to this #?
Go through this thread and count them up. 
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« Reply #361 on: December 21, 2011, 01:30:03 AM » |
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Go through this thread and count them up.  Too high a number for you? 
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« Reply #362 on: December 21, 2011, 06:52:31 AM » |
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Harley does not require a dealership to do a total redo just because a store is 10 years old. That being said, there are updates to fixtures that may, or may not be required/suggested, both free standing and on the walls. And yes, that can cost tens of thousands of dollars; however, not doing the updates does not have dire consequences.
If I was wrong in what I stated it was from information I got from the dealer. It was not ment to miss lead any one.
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« Reply #363 on: December 21, 2011, 08:08:55 AM » |
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Too high a number for you?  I know the answer......thought you've been here long enough to know the answer, too. 
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« Reply #364 on: December 21, 2011, 09:08:04 AM » |
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Here's the dealer numbers from H-D, printed in the investors relationship info and available off their website. Seems that with all the change things stay fairly level in the number of dealerships, down 33 from the 2008 high of 686. The Secondary retail are also down 28 from a high of 104 in 2007 which certainly adds to the total number of stores closed but still not extremely dramatic in my mind, these are not the mall locations but satellite retail units. Mall stores "alternative" retail outlets in H-D lingo are actually up to 86 from 2007 low number of 68 which offsets some of the secondary retail store loss as mall stores are owned by dealers as well. Harley-Davidson Full Service Dealerships 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 USA 653 671 686 684 679 Canada 71 71 71 74 75 Secondary Retail Locations 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 USA 76 87 101 104 97 Canada 3 3 3 2 2 Alternative Retail Outlets 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 USA 86 83 77 68 69 Canada 3 5 3 8 2 http://investor.harley-davidson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=87981&p=irol-dealerships&locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US
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« Reply #365 on: December 22, 2011, 12:05:55 AM » |
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Here's the dealer numbers from H-D, printed in the investors relationship info and available off their website. Seems that with all the change things stay fairly level in the number of dealerships, down 33 from the 2008 high of 686. The Secondary retail are also down 28 from a high of 104 in 2007 which certainly adds to the total number of stores closed but still not extremely dramatic in my mind, these are not the mall locations but satellite retail units. Mall stores "alternative" retail outlets in H-D lingo are actually up to 86 from 2007 low number of 68 which offsets some of the secondary retail store loss as mall stores are owned by dealers as well. Harley-Davidson Full Service Dealerships 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 USA 653 671 686 684 679 Canada 71 71 71 74 75 Secondary Retail Locations 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 USA 76 87 101 104 97 Canada 3 3 3 2 2 Alternative Retail Outlets 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 USA 86 83 77 68 69 Canada 3 5 3 8 2 http://investor.harley-davidson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=87981&p=irol-dealerships&locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US Thanks for that info, and especially for the link to the investor site. When they update that to include 2011 results, we'll be able to see how this year has been for HD overall.
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« Reply #366 on: December 22, 2011, 12:13:56 AM » |
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Go through this thread and count them up.  Thanks for the suggestion, but there's just a slight possibility that not all closing dealerships (especially those overseas) have been reported in this thread.
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« Reply #367 on: December 23, 2011, 12:15:33 PM » |
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Add Crossroads HD in Center Valley, PA - what a shame  There was a prior threat about Santa Cruz but here are a few more I got from another site:
Central Harley Davidson (North) in Kansas City, KS
Doyles HD in Roseburg, Oregon
Wilwert's HD Dubuque, Iowa
San Juan Capistrano Harley, CA
Birds of Prey HD Caldwell, Idaho
Hangtown Harley in Placerville, CA
Pineda HD in Melbourne, FL (merged w/ Space Coast)
**edited** HD of Amador Amador CA Auburn HD Auburn CA Elk Grove HD Elk Grove CA Jacson HD Jacson CA HD of Rocklin Rocklin CA Doyles HD Roseburg CA The Ridge HD Lake Wales FL Pompano Beach HD Pompano Beach FL Birds of Prey HD Caldwell ID Central HD (north) Kansas City KS Riverfront HD Lawrence KS Shreveport HD Shreveport LA Outerbanks HD Elizabeth City NC Littleton HD Bethlehem NH Brooklyn HD Brooklyn NY Dick's HD Rome NY Roeder's HD Sandusky OH Cerini HD PA Hartford HD Hartford WI
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« Reply #368 on: January 04, 2012, 04:16:39 AM » |
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Pierce Harley-Davidson in DeKalb, Ill. corrects earlier reports: Pierce Harley-Davidson not closing, but being sold.
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« Reply #369 on: January 05, 2012, 05:29:22 AM » |
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just noticed: Harley-Davidson Cape Town has ceased trading just before christmas.
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« Reply #370 on: January 05, 2012, 05:32:59 AM » |
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« Reply #371 on: January 05, 2012, 06:44:29 AM » |
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And there's this. More crap from China at hyper-inflated prices. HD actually disgust me. 
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« Reply #372 on: January 05, 2012, 06:06:19 PM » |
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old story. Calling business decisions "heartless" disqualifies any article anyway  Chances are the australian crap will not be displaced by chinese but italian crap 
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« Reply #373 on: January 06, 2012, 04:33:01 AM » |
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old story. Calling business decisions "heartless" disqualifies any article anyway  Chances are the australian crap will not be displaced by chinese but italian crap  Never had a problem with anything made in Australia, including Castaloy wheels on HDs. With items made in China, however, the quality reflects the cost to the OEM, in my experience, Hans. So the quality of [all] HDs heads steadily south, while the price continues to rocket north. 
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« Reply #374 on: January 06, 2012, 07:28:17 AM » |
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... So the quality of [all] HDs heads steadily south, while the price continues to rocket north.  that's a fact indeed 
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