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[HD Street Performance]

I admit bias. My choice would be the Woods TW5-6 to accomplish the same goal (similar timing) but I am sure the CR cam is good too they are both ground by Andrews.

[Wheelsnkeels]

Curious if theyre both ground by Andrews then why wouldnt you just use an "Andrews" Cam?

[Twolanerider]

Curious if theyre both ground by Andrews then why wouldnt you just use an "Andrews" Cam?

Andrews machines cams for many others.  They're the machinist in those cases but not the designer.  The profile comes from someone else and Andrews just cuts them to spec.  Andrews also ahs their own cams.  Products they have both designed and cut.

[HD Street Performance]

They all have different timing and lift events. Rates of lift vary. Nothing wrong with Andrews native grinds either but really this CVO 110 is a little differant motor, mainly the heads, and zeroing in on what the owners, as a whole, mostly want and what the motor needs to get there enables a smaller company to create a custom. In the case of Wood cams all of their cams are designed to pack a punch in their designated rpm range. FYI anybody can contact Andrews and have a custom ground if you are real adept at IC engine design you may hit a winner. Software helps create the recipe.

[Zinister]

Dewey, what do you think of the TW7 for a SESS3 with no head work done? Just tuning and slip on exhaust.


I'm still thinking about going with BUB 7 slip ons. And I got the SERT for xmas, actually I have to go pick it up from the dealer over the break.

[HD Street Performance]

The TW7 will offer an improvement but may not be worth the loss of warranty and expense without added compression, minor headwork, and a custom tune.

[SBB]

The TW7 will offer an improvement but may not be worth the loss of warranty and expense without added compression, minor headwork, and a custom tune.

Thanks for that news Don.
My dealer installed my TW7H and I have full warranty.
With the "custom tune" it's over 100 ft. lbs. at 2200 rpm and stays above 100 till 5800.
The 2 year warranty runs out 10-01-2010, then I may go for "added compression" and "minor headwork", but then again, maybe not.
Time will tell, I should be close to 40K miles by the end of the warranty period so who knows.
Thanks for all your help!

SBB

[Zinister]

Dewey do you recommend TW5-6 over the TW7h?

Is this because of the lack of headwork and compression?

What do you think the difference in performance would be without the headwork as I may do this at a latter date but, after the warranty is over.

[HD Street Performance]

The TW5-6 is a perfect bolt-in for the 110 stock motor, however adjustable pushrods are needed. It will deliver all the low end torque and more yet not give up the ghost as quick upstairs. The TW7 is OK but so close to the 5 and the 5 will work for the grunt guys. The guys looking at the dyno numbers and that don't mind a little more gear shifting I would lead them toward a TW408-44 or an S&S grind. Even the SE259 looks promising but no direct experience with that yet.

[harleyguynv]

The TW5-6 is a perfect bolt-in for the 110 stock motor, however adjustable pushrods are needed. It will deliver all the low end torque and more yet not give up the ghost as quick upstairs. The TW7 is OK but so close to the 5 and the 5 will work for the grunt guys. The guys looking at the dyno numbers and that don't mind a little more gear shifting I would lead them toward a TW408-44 or an S&S grind. Even the SE259 looks promising but no direct experience with that yet.

Do you have a Dyno chart showing the TW5-6 in a stock motor with AC and pipes? If not what would you say the numbers would be?  Can you bolt this in without changing the head gastets, which is what I'm interested in doing. I'm thinking about the CR575 also. The CR575's supposedly run pretty quiet. How noisey is the woods with a chain drive? I appreciate all of your input on this site!!

[Zig]

Doc, it seems the engine is actually quieter than before-Pipe is shouting though. The range I used to hear the valve train clatter was at low speed around 2500 and up.  That seems to have toned down quite a bit. The tune richened up the mix a bit, so, it runs cooler too.

Zigg

[HD Street Performance]

Thanks for that news Don.
My dealer installed my TW7H and I have full warranty.
With the "custom tune" it's over 100 ft. lbs. at 2200 rpm and stays above 100 till 5800.
The 2 year warranty runs out 10-01-2010, then I may go for "added compression" and "minor headwork", but then again, maybe not.
Time will tell, I should be close to 40K miles by the end of the warranty period so who knows.
Thanks for all your help!

SBB

You are luck to have a good performance oriented dealer that
1. knows how to tune
2. Does not delete the engine warranty because of aftermarket parts.
I am sure most folks know the warranty deal and having to use "street legal" SE parts to comply but some dealers offer leniency and with the 110 and the other issues that is a good thing.

[HDDOCFL]

Thanks Zig.   Doc

[HD Street Performance]

Dewey do you recommend TW5-6 over the TW7h

No but I do have a TW7 VS stock

The green and blue are with a pipe change from stock 07 headpipes and fatshotz to a White Bros E. The red is the SE255 (stock) with the stock headpipes and fatshotz.  this is a stock motor but expertly tuned, not a dyno jet for you numbers guys but this is corrected to dynojet by their software. I would be looking more at the % of change and where and what occured rather than numbers.

[rascal1007]

Dewey do you recommend TW5-6 over the TW7h

No but I do have a TW7 VS stock

The green and blue are with a pipe change from stock 07 headpipes and fatshotz to a White Bros E. The red is the SE255 (stock) with the stock headpipes and fatshotz.  this is a stock motor but expertly tuned, not a dyno jet for you numbers guys but this is corrected to dynojet by their software. I would be looking more at the % of change and where and what occured rather than numbers.

Hi Don,

Do you know what has been done to this engine? Example any other mods, headwork, etc.?


The stock SE255 cams make some decent torque.