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« on: December 20, 2010, 12:33:02 AM » |
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i have a 2011 street glide 96ci that i just upgraded to a 110ci. while doing the upgrade i had the dealer install the pro 110 performance upgrade kit which include se 10.5 high compression pistons, se perfect fit push rods, se 259e cams, se high performance inner cam bearings and se super pro tuner. i have rinehart true dual exhaust and a se heavy breather. what kind of numbers should i expect to see on a dyno? my current numbers are 101.19 hp and 105 lbs torque. should i expect more from this setup or are my numbers about average. if not should i take the bike back to harley for them to re dyno the bike? any input will be greatly appreciated. thank you
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 07:29:33 AM » |
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Those are your numbers after the mods? Take it to a good tuner, not Harley.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 08:51:29 AM » |
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i have a 2011 street glide 96ci that i just upgraded to a 110ci. while doing the upgrade i had the dealer install the pro 110 performance upgrade kit which include se 10.5 high compression pistons, se perfect fit push rods, se 259e cams, se high performance inner cam bearings and se super pro tuner. i have rinehart true dual exhaust and a se heavy breather. what kind of numbers should i expect to see on a dyno? my current numbers are 101.19 hp and 105 lbs torque. should i expect more from this setup or are my numbers about average. if not should i take the bike back to harley for them to re dyno the bike? any input will be greatly appreciated. thank you
Take a look at Harley's own statement in the SE Pro catalog (attachment) and then make your own conclusions. Consider that not all dyno's and/or dyno operators are created equal, your choice of exhaust system can play a significant role in your final numbers as well, and many of the very best tuners don't work for Harley dealerships. Jerry
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 09:13:15 AM » |
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Cupid how many runs did they make on your bike to tune it or did they just drop a canned map in and say go enjoy? Before you pay for a new tune might be worth the 35-50 bucks to have your bike run on a different dyno. Also what kind of dyno does the dealership have if it is a superflow the numbers might be right in line if it is a dynojet 250i they are on the low side depending on which exhaust you chose.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 10:24:32 AM » |
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on the print out i recieved it says dynojet winpep
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 10:26:58 AM » |
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what is the number before the .drf that will be the number of the run for that WOT pull.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 10:40:25 AM » |
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runfile_017.drf run type: RO run conditions: 80.63 degrees f, 29.53 in-Hg, humidity: 5%, SAE: 0.99
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 11:16:47 AM » |
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IMO a total of 17 runs is really low for doing a complete tune. Maybe Doc1 or Herko or one of the guys that tunes will comment further. I would have expected to see at least 30 something runs for a full tune.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 10:52:20 AM » |
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i have a 2011 street glide 96ci that i just upgraded to a 110ci. while doing the upgrade i had the dealer install the pro 110 performance upgrade kit which include se 10.5 high compression pistons, se perfect fit push rods, se 259e cams, se high performance inner cam bearings and se super pro tuner. i have rinehart true dual exhaust and a se heavy breather. what kind of numbers should i expect to see on a dyno? my current numbers are 101.19 hp and 105 lbs torque. should i expect more from this setup or are my numbers about average. if not should i take the bike back to harley for them to re dyno the bike? any input will be greatly appreciated. thank you
We've seen 94 hp and 104 ft/lbs from carbed 88"ers. Our American Iron Magazine build(coming in the March-April issues as we are told) went 112/119, 98", pulling thru a lousey air filter. 114/122, with the proper element. I'd say something is MIA.  Scott
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 01:38:26 PM » |
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If this was my choice I would bypass the MOCO. Assuming the stock pistons are sealing fine just a cam change and tune will get you equal or better HP and TQ. Still the issues with the motor even with the program heads are not fixed. The cart before the wheel. Would not get into any compares of older 5 speed bikes, many differences and on a dynojet they displayed better.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 11:32:46 PM » |
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i have a 2011 street glide 96ci that i just upgraded to a 110ci. while doing the upgrade i had the dealer install the pro 110 performance upgrade kit which include se 10.5 high compression pistons, se perfect fit push rods, se 259e cams, se high performance inner cam bearings and se super pro tuner. i have rinehart true dual exhaust and a se heavy breather. what kind of numbers should i expect to see on a dyno? my current numbers are 101.19 hp and 105 lbs torque. should i expect more from this setup or are my numbers about average. if not should i take the bike back to harley for them to re dyno the bike? any input will be greatly appreciated. thank you
if it is a six gear run that is weak. that is about 5-6 more hp and 10-20 less tq. than I get out of stage 1 110's the 17 runs is probably a correct indication of the total runs used to tune it if it was at most dealerships. not all tuners click the run button for all runs on the dyno,I dont collect runs when under load on the brake while setting AFR. so sometimes the run numbers dont reflect true times or runs on the dyno. if you were able to wait around look at some t shirts,kick a few tires and they came and told you it was tuned. you didnt get a complete tune.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2010, 07:11:10 AM » |
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Bottom line is get it to a good tuner, and that is usually, not located in isle 8, of your local H-D Dept. store. Scott
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2010, 02:32:48 PM » |
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I am getting very similar numbers from my 2010 SEUC with a 110, Heavy Breather, Rienhart True duals and the HD tuner. I sometimes wonder if that's the best it can do also for the mods the bike has. I am looking for more throttle responce and feel it in the seat of your pants performance. So I'm thinking a 30 tooth drive sprocket may be my best option, cost wise?  Supershooter
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 11:02:04 AM » |
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I just put this kit in the 09SEDFB and the initial #s are 112.03 hp and 115.11 Tq with a Propipe and a port and polish of the stock head. They did an 80% tune with the pistons and rings being new and told me to come back at 500 miles and service the bike and re-tune. I heard another guy getting 123 Tq up in Ky and asked about it. The service tech said he could play with the numbers and change them by taking off the air cleaner and blowing fans during the runs if he wanted to just post numbers. I see the point and have to read numbers for what they are and realize they may not reflect performance on the tires.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 01:43:26 PM » |
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i have a 2011 street glide 96ci that i just upgraded to a 110ci. while doing the upgrade i had the dealer install the pro 110 performance upgrade kit which include se 10.5 high compression pistons, se perfect fit push rods, se 259e cams, se high performance inner cam bearings and se super pro tuner. i have rinehart true dual exhaust and a se heavy breather. what kind of numbers should i expect to see on a dyno? my current numbers are 101.19 hp and 105 lbs torque. should i expect more from this setup or are my numbers about average. if not should i take the bike back to harley for them to re dyno the bike? any input will be greatly appreciated. thank you
I had that done to my '07 SEUC, but with the 251 cams. I had the Zippers high flow air kit and BUB slip on's. It made 101 and 115 on the dyno. I don't know what to expect with the 259e's.
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