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[olli]

Without any mods is it possible?
If not what mods makes it been heard?

[mjb765]

Listening to radio, CD, IPOD??  Mine sounds good to 80MPH...even higher with the stock pipes.

[JCZ]

It can with Hog Tune tweeters.....   http://compare.ebay.com/like/220630817717?var=bingv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=227665681503&crlp=1_263602_325002&UA=WXI8&GUID=e6e81aaf12d0a02680b66a56ff47b6e5&itemid=220630817717&ff4=263602_325002

[michaelbmenaker]

It can with Hog Tune tweeters.....   http://compare.ebay.com/like/220630817717?var=bingv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&rvr_id=227665681503&crlp=1_263602_325002&UA=WXI8&GUID=e6e81aaf12d0a02680b66a56ff47b6e5&itemid=220630817717&ff4=263602_325002

JCZ,
Are you saying the tweeters in the dash of the '11s aren't enough?

[JCZ]

JCZ,
Are you saying the tweeters in the dash of the '11s aren't enough?

What...tweeters in the dash on the 11s?  I want my money back!

Actually one of the techs at the local dealership took me out back to show me his bike.  He's got an 11 and added the Hog Tune tweeters also.  Sounded nice sitting there.

Not sure what the 11s sound like on the roll but the difference (as explained by Hog Tune's Pez) is that while bass will push sound, treble will not push and is blocked by anything in it's way (handlbars, cables, etc.) while the Hog Pods are up much higher, nearly at ear level and without any obstruction.  I read this on his web site year before last....before the 11s were out.  Not sure of the difference.......who wants to let me ride their 11 SESG?

[Black Diamond]

What...tweeters in the dash on the 11s?  I want my money back!

Actually one of the techs at the local dealership took me out back to show me his bike.  He's got an 11 and added the Hog Tune tweeters also.  Sounded nice sitting there.

Not sure what the 11s sound like on the roll but the difference (as explained by Hog Tune's Pez) is that while bass will push sound, treble will not push and is blocked by anything in it's way (handlbars, cables, etc.) while the Hog Pods are up much higher, nearly at ear level and without any obstruction.  I read this on his web site year before last....before the 11s were out.  Not sure of the difference.......who wants to let me ride their 11 SESG?

Anytime your in the Midwest, give me a call.

I went with Hertz HCX165 / Titans 6.5 speakers and retained the OE tweeters. I got a little more bass, much cleaner sound with crisp, easy to hear sound up to 100 mph. The stock speakers sounded disfused. At times it was difficult to immediately id a song as it started. FWIW

JW

[FAST380]

Black Diamond,

You added these speakers right to the stock system? Thought there was an issue with the stock only be 1 ohm or something? Did you do anything with your amp? How about a link to what you added?

Thanks,

FAST

[robertw]

If your riding faster than 80 mph, you might have to turn the vollume up to half strength.

[Black Diamond]

Black Diamond,

You added these speakers right to the stock system? Thought there was an issue with the stock only be 1 ohm or something? Did you do anything with your amp? How about a link to what you added?

Thanks,

FAST

Yep, only change was the speakers. I talked with some auto audio guys in town. The looked at my system and told me there would be no problem installing the Hertz 3 ohm speakers with the existing amp, radio and tweeters. Here's a link. This mod is contained with in my SESG mod thread. Starts @ reply 167.
 
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53413.msg866383#msg866383

JW

[michaelbmenaker]

Just to be clear... on '11 SESGs, the small speakers in the dash in the holes used for gauges on other FLHs are tweeters, correct?

[jcd520]

Without any mods is it possible?
If not what mods makes it been heard?

I can hear mine just fine at hwy speeds. I have fullsac 1.75" baffles in my mufflers also and it is still fine. Hard to believe but it is.

[mrmagloo]

Just to be clear... on '11 SESGs, the small speakers in the dash in the holes used for gauges on other FLHs are tweeters, correct?

Yes.

[TIF2]

Yep, only change was the speakers. I talked with some auto audio guys in town. The looked at my system and told me there would be no problem installing the Hertz 3 ohm speakers with the existing amp, radio and tweeters. Here's a link. This mod is contained with in my SESG mod thread. Starts @ reply 167.
 
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53413.msg866383#msg866383

JW

I don't know why Biketronics shows these speakers as 3ohms. Hertz says the HCX-165s are 4ohm:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/schedaProdotto_en.asp?id=4&idcat=9&idprod=28&numid=2&numcat=3&numprod=2

I can confirm with attached photo ... Either BT isn't using HCX-165s, or they are incorrect with speaker load. Dunno why they would rate them different than the manufacturer?? Gonna have to call Bill I guess. But - if you are looking at designing a system around the HCX-165 Hertz speakers, rate them at 4ohms vs. the BT rating of 3ohms.

[mjb765]

I don't know why Biketronics shows these speakers as 3ohms. Hertz says the HCX-165s are 4ohm:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/schedaProdotto_en.asp?id=4&idcat=9&idprod=28&numid=2&numcat=3&numprod=2

I can confirm with attached photo ... Either BT isn't using HCX-165s, or they are incorrect with speaker load. Dunno why they would rate them different than the manufacturer?? Gonna have to call Bill I guess. But - if you are looking at designing a system around the HCX-165 Hertz speakers, rate them at 4ohms vs. the BT rating of 3ohms.

I was thinking of swapping out the fairing and lowers speakers on my 11 with the 165's since the previous post said they would work. I didn't understand why the 3 ohm speakers would work, but do you think 4 ohm would be ok also?? I'm a little foggy on the ohm thing

[TIF2]

Hey Mike -

Typically you can always increase load on an amp without major issues - the fall-out is that as impedance (load) increases, output power decreases. An easy (accurate for the girls I go with - but not precise) calculation is to divide the output power of an amp by 2 when the load doubles. For example:

100w/ch at 4ohms
50w/ch at 8ohms

There is, of course, diminishing gains where:

100w/ch at 4ohms
125w/ch at 2ohms

The SESG2 amp (according to the manufacturer - MTX Tech Support) is rated at 100w rms/ch with a .5ohm load. Increasing speaker load by replacing the stock 1ohm speakers with 4ohm speakers is ok - it would merely decrease rated amp output. So ... for replacing the 2 of the three 1ohm stock speakers (fairings, lowers) with 4ohm speakers ... but keeping the 1ohm (crap) "tweeters" ... the toal load per channel is calculated by the following:

1/in1 + 1/n2 +1/n3 +1/nx = Y (where n is speaker impedance for each speaker wired in parallel per output channel)
Then take the inverse of the Y value.

Or ... you could just go to this link:

http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm

Be careful - wiring in series changes EVERTHING. As does a SERIES/PARALLEL install.
The link is damn good for showing the differences and what the fall-out from each is on an amp. And it even has a handy-dandy calculator for the formula above.