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[toddm]

anyone have the check engine lamp come on when you are driving my pumpkin seems to be running well i checked all the fluids the only thing i did was changed to vance and hines slip ons the lamp never came on when i first switch the ovals now all of a sudden the lamp illuminates when im driving

[hdnut]

I have the Ovals on mine,have not had a problem [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=pumpkin.gif]

[grc]

anyone have the check engine lamp come on when you are driving my pumpkin seems to be running well i checked all the fluids the only thing i did was changed to vance and hines slip ons the lamp never came on when i first switch the ovals now all of a sudden the lamp illuminates when im driving

Todd,

Very unlikely this has anything to do with your mufflers.  You need to check for Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's) stored in your ECM.  You could have a sensor going bad, loose connections somewhere, etc.  The ECM monitors all of the sensors plus various other functions, and when it gets a response that is out of the normal range it will set a code in memory and illuminate the check engine light.  If you want to check for codes yourself, the owner's manual will tell you how to enter diagnostic mode on your speedometer display.  You're looking for codes that start with a letter, followed by 4 numbers, such as "P0140".

Jerry

[grc]

BTW - the attachment lists the DTC's and what they mean.

Jerry

[hd-dude]

Here is more data and info on how to retrieve the codes via the speedo readout:

The IM (instrument module) is capable of displaying DTC's (diagnostic trouble codes).

Speedometer Self Diagnostics: The speedometer is capable of displaying and clearing speedometer, tachometer, TSM/TSSM and ICM/ECM Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC).

1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

2- Push odometer reset button in & hold.

3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range
and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word “diag” should then appear.

4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.

5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module)
to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)

P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module (EFI) / (Ignition Control Module, 'Carbureted')
S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)
SP = speedometer
T = tachometer

6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC’s the code will be
displayed or the word “none” will appear if there are no DTC’s. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

7 - Record the codes.

8 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.
NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up.
Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC’s again by repeating steps 1 to 9.
If the code is current it will reappear.

9 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

10 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

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DTC FAULT CONDITION MODULE

B0563 Battery Voltage High TSM/TSSM
B1004 Fuel Level Sending Unit Low Instruments
B1005 Fuel Level Sending Unit High/Open Instruments
B1006 Accessory Line Overvoltage Instruments
B1007 Ignition Line Overvoltage Instruments
B1008 Reset Switch Closed Instruments
B1131 Alarm Output Low TSM/TSSM
B1132 Alarm Output High TSM/TSSM
B1134 Starter Output High TSM/TSSM
B1135 Accelerometer Fault TSM/TSSM
B1151 Sidecar BAS Low TSM/TSSM
B1152 Sidecar BAS High TSM/TSSM
B1153 Sidecar BAS Out of Range TSM/TSSM
P0106 MAP Sensor Rate of Range Error Carb
P0107 Map Sensor Failed Open/Low Carb
P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low EFI
P0108 Map Sensor Failed High Carb
P0108 Map Sensor High EFI
P0112 IAT Sensor Voltage Low EFI
P0113 IAT Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI
P0117 ET Sensor Voltage Low EFI
P0118 ET Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI
P0122 TP Sensor Open/Low EFI
P0123 TP Sensor High EFI
P0261 Front Injector Open/Low EFI
P0262 Front Injector High EFI
P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low EFI
P0264 Rear Injector High EFI
P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent Carb
P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent EFI
P0374 CKP Sensor Not Detected Carb
P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error EFI
P0501 VSS Low Carb
P0501 VSS Low EFI
P0502 VSS High/Open Carb
P0502 VSS High/Open EFI
P0505 Loss of Idle Sped Control EFI
P0562 Battery Voltage Low Carb
P0562 Battery Voltage Low EFI
P0563 Battery Voltage High Carb
P0563 Battery Voltage High EFI
P0602 Calibration Memory Error Carb
P0603 EEPROM Failure Carb
P0603 ECM EEPROM Error EFI
P0604 RAM Failure Carb
P0605 Program Memory Error Carb
P0605 ECM Flash Error EFI
P0607 Converter Error Carb
P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low EFI
P1002 System relay Coil High/Shorted EFI
P1003 System relay Contacts Open EFI
P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed EFI
P1009 Incorrect Password Carb
P1009 Incorrect Password EFI
P1010 Missing Password Carb
P1010 Missing Password EFI
P1351 Front Ignition Open/Low Carb
P1351 Front Ignition Open/Low EFI
P1352 Front Ignition Coil High/Shorted Carb
P1352 Front Ignition Coil High/Shorted EFI
P1353 Front Cylinder No Combustion EFI
P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Open/Low Carb
P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Open/Low EFI
P1355 Rear Ignition Coil High/Shorted Carb
P1355 Rear Ignition Coil High/Shorted EFI
P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion EFI
P1357 Intermittent Secondary Front EFI
P1358 Intermittent Secondary Rear EFI
U1016 Loss of ICM/ECM Serial Data Instruments
U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data, Vehicle Speed, Vehicle Inhibit Motion or Powertrain Security Status TSM/TSSM
U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data Carb
U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data EFI
U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data Instruments
U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data Carb
U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data EFI
U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data TSM/TSSM
U1255 Missing Message at Speedometer EFI
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message EFI
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message Instruments
U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message TSM/TSSM
U1300 Serial Data Low Carb
U1300 Serial Data Low EFI
U1300 Serial Data Low Instruments
U1300 Serial Data Low TSM/TSSM
U1301 Serial Data Open/High Carb
U1301 Serial Data Open/High EFI
U1301 Serial Data Open/High Instruments
U1301 Serial Data Open/High TSM/TSSM

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AFR – Air Fuel Ratio

ATS – Air Temperature Sensor

BAS – Bank Angle Sensor

CCM – Cruise Control Module

CKP – Crank Position Sensor. The CKP generates an “AC signal” which is sent to the ECM where it is used to reference engine position (TDC) and speed.

DTC – Diagnostic Trouble Codes

[05Rider]

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Here is more data and info on how to retrieve the codes via the speedo readout:

The IM (instrument module) is capable of displaying DTC's (diagnostic trouble codes).

Speedometer Self Diagnostics: The speedometer is capable of displaying and clearing speedometer, tachometer, TSM/TSSM and ICM/ECM Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC).

  hd-dude, thanks for all that great info on the DTC's.  I don't need any of this now.  I will maintain a copy just in case I ever do!!

Ride Often - Ride Safe  [smiley=helmet.gif]

[Jock]

hd-dude,

Thanks for that great information...

[Fired00d]

The above information is what makes this place so great. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Just imagine you call your dealership and tell your service advisor that you have a check engine light on. Now we all know his reply is going to be bring it in, and we'll check it out for you (at the cost of $45 - $65 and up an hour) to only find out you had a loose connection somewhere. Then you find out that you could've found the problem and fixed it yourself.

I'll be the first to admit I'm not mechanically inclined, but I do know where I've got a lot of friends that are (in case you didn’t already guess it’s CVOHarley.com). Because of that I've increased my mechanically ability tremendously for the short time I've been here.

/me waits for the day he can come here and give a play by play account of his first bike build!!!

Ok, lets change that it will be bike "assembly". I dare say my first attempt will be a "kit" bike, as I don't want to have to "fabricate" much on the first attempt.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 [smiley=fireman.gif]

[toddm]

you guys are the best heres what i came up with p1353 p1356 p1357 then came pn32927-04 what is the pn32927-04everything else was good please help.

[Fired00d]

My first thought when I saw the number in question "PN32927-04" was that it was a part number. I checked my 2004 Parts Catalog, but couldn't find anything. Sorry.

 [smiley=pumpkin.gif]
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 [smiley=fireman.gif]

[toddm]

me to fire i thought the same hopefully someone will have an answer

[SEULTRA]

FireD00d--- I suspect that (like the rest of us) if want was has you'd have it all!
You got it bad bro' and that's good ... now about that stock you have in 50 chrome plating companies...  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=drink.gif]

[Bungy]

8 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed

[hd-dude]

The PNxxx must be the part number of the module, (as Bungy stated and per item . I wou;d clear the codes and the repeat the process to see if they are current or historic. If they clear then ride it for a while and see if they come back.

[Screamin_Beagle]

Is all this shtick in the manual......never read mine......I guess I have a weekend homework assignment.  HD.....you are truely a master of the universe.......


_Beagle