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2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« on: August 19, 2013, 08:55:19 AM »

New for 2014 SE Compensator-comes std on 2014's.. No price yet.  Looks like it has deflector shields.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/big-twin-compensator


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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 09:07:33 AM »

I've lost track Bob.  Is this compensator # 5?


Hard to tell from the pics as there is no exploded view.  But if what we're seeing is all there is to that system it may be less fragile than the prior iterations.  If those are solid pieces it may be harder on crankshafts too.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 11:02:02 AM »

It appears to have less parts.  It's their 3rd or 4th attempt Don.  Tired of being their test dummy.  Will be on my 3rd compenstaor in 32,000 miles (original, one at 17,500 miles, and this winter for the current one).
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 12:10:16 PM »

It appears to have less parts.  It's their 3rd or 4th attempt Don.  Tired of being their test dummy.  Will be on my 3rd compenstaor in 32,000 miles (original, one at 17,500 miles, and this winter for the current one).


Unless the "deflector shields" redirect primary lubrication to the critical areas that fail on the current compensators, it'll be another in a series of failed designs.  You have to love it - the newest compensator comes with "deflector shields", but doesn't come with the adhesive to install them.  The adhesive is an additional separate purchase.  WTF....  Not sure I'd want "glue in" pieces within my primary anyway.

I doubt there are fewer components making up this newest compensator.  I suspect it's just how it's shown in the photos...

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2013, 01:06:00 PM »

Just watched the slide show from the "2014 model year technical forum" describing the engineering changes to the redesigned 2014 compensator.  If the redesign to better distribute the lubrication functions as described, they may have finally resolved the premature wear of this assembly.  The only questionable portion of the redesign is the replacement of the fiber thrust washer with a needle bearing thrust washer assembly.  That and hoping the glued on lubrication deflectors stay in place. 

So..if 6 members throw in $50.00 each, I'll volunteer to be the crash test dummy guinea pig and test the longevity of the piece!  LOL.....  :oops: :huepfenlol2:  ::) :P
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2013, 01:57:12 PM »

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2013, 02:52:00 PM »

Just watched the slide show from the "2014 model year technical forum" describing the engineering changes to the redesigned 2014 compensator.  


Just watched that part of the tech forum also.  Still can't believe they're so inane as to make the required adhesive separate from the kit.  Just when a cynic thinks there might be enough going on to give them the benefit of the doubt and allow optimism they find the simplest ways to prove again that stupid is alive and well at The Motor Company.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2013, 03:10:21 PM »

If HD had any integrity, they'd offer to replace all of the earlier compensators at a huge discount, or even better, for free.  They knew there were problems withtheir comps.  Instead, they're going to gouge us again with a part that should have been stock from the beginning.  :soapbox:
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2013, 03:57:21 PM »


Just watched that part of the tech forum also.  Still can't believe they're so inane as to make the required adhesive separate from the kit.  Just when a cynic think there might be enough going on to give them the benefit of the doubt and allow optimism they find the simplest ways to prove again that stupid is alive and well at The Motor Company.

Isn't that the truth!  The adhesive to attach the deflectors is required for the part to work - in fact, the oil deflectors are central to the re-design functioning.  But the adhesive isn't included in the kit???  A separate additional purchase??   :nixweiss:
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2013, 04:09:18 PM »

Isn't that the truth!  The adhesive to attach the deflectors is required for the part to work - in fact, the oil deflectors are central to the re-design functioning.  But the adhesive isn't included in the kit???  A separate additional purchase??   :nixweiss:

Having things GLUED onto the inside of the primary scares the BEJESUS out of me!

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2013, 04:17:25 PM »

Do you have to buy the duct tape separately also?  Will soon be putting my third compensator in the 11 SESG.  Not sure why the SERK4 isn't eating these too.   :nixweiss:  Of course everything else breaks on that one.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2013, 04:37:40 PM »

Having things GLUED onto the inside of the primary scares the BEJESUS out of me!

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 :2vrolijk_21:    Maybe that's where the term "bandaid fix" comes from?

By having you be responsible for properly and thoroughly cleaning the surfaces and then bonding the parts into the correct positions, I guess they give themselves another easy out when something fails.  It's not their fault, it's your fault.  In the meantime they make even more money (note that the compensator "fixes" escalate in price as the years go by) letting all the customers pay to fix Harley's untested and poorly designed compensator.  Hmmmmmm.  Seven years from the initial introduction of the new style primary and compensator, and they still don't admit anything and just keep pushing the latest change as some sort of "performance" upgrade in the SE catalog.  The chutzpah of this corporation (and lack of integrity) is beyond belief. 

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2013, 04:42:03 PM »

:2vrolijk_21:    Maybe that's where the term "bandaid fix" comes from?

By having you be responsible for properly and thoroughly cleaning the surfaces and then bonding the parts into the correct positions, I guess they give themselves another easy out when something fails.  It's not their fault, it's your fault.  In the meantime they make even more money (note that the compensator "fixes" escalate in price as the years go by) letting all the customers pay to fix Harley's untested and poorly designed compensator.  Hmmmmmm.  Seven years from the initial introduction of the new style primary and compensator, and they still don't admit anything and just keep pushing the latest change as some sort of "performance" upgrade in the SE catalog.  The chutzpah of this corporation (and lack of integrity) is beyond belief. 

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TOTALLY AGREE, Jerry! This is BS...

Who is it that is supposedly designing a new compensator? I've seen it discussed but I can't recall. Maybe they will have it on the market soon...

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2013, 05:09:51 PM »

:2vrolijk_21:    Maybe that's where the term "bandaid fix" comes from?

By having you be responsible for properly and thoroughly cleaning the surfaces and then bonding the parts into the correct positions, I guess they give themselves another easy out when something fails.  It's not their fault, it's your fault.  In the meantime they make even more money (note that the compensator "fixes" escalate in price as the years go by) letting all the customers pay to fix Harley's untested and poorly designed compensator.  Hmmmmmm.  Seven years from the initial introduction of the new style primary and compensator, and they still don't admit anything and just keep pushing the latest change as some sort of "performance" upgrade in the SE catalog.  The chutzpah of this corporation (and lack of integrity) is beyond belief. 

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That's the tricky part.  I'm sure there are adhesives fully capable of bonding the deflector to the primary cover....assuming the surface are sufficiently cleaned and prepped for the adhesive.  Hopefully the deflector is designed so it's near impossible to position and bond out of location.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2013, 05:37:10 PM »


Does anyone make a replacement Compensator that works and is dependable beside Harley?

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