In 2012 I traded in my 2003 V-Rod that was tuned TTS Mastertune (black) by Skips Speed & Customs Cycles in Winchester, VA. I retained the TTS Mastertune module and box per the dealership as it could be a liability to the new owner of the bike.
I can send this unit back to TTS and for a fee of $200 (TTS p/n 2000007) I can upgrade from single to dual license, in which I would use on my 2012 Street Glide.
I would like to get an understanding of what would be the difference/benefits between TTS I and TTS II?
Thanks in advance.
I don't understand what "liability" there would have been to the guy who bought your V-Rod in giving him the black TTS VCI. It's useless to anyone else, because it's locked to that bike.
Yes, you could upgrade it for $200 to a dual unit... but here's why it's a LOT better to spend $450 to get the newer blue TTS 2 VCI.
Everything Mayor said is true, but there's a LOT more...
The blue VCI is the TTS MasterTune VCI going forward. It's a complete computer, with two processors inside... an I/O processor to talk to a laptop, and a real CPU to interface to the ECM that enables it to be used completely standalone without a laptop attached to gather data. This mode is called the Flight Recorder
. The TTS 3 software to support it hasn't been released yet.... but it will be very soon. The BLUE VCI will be required in order to use Flight Recorder mode.
The older black VCI will never be able to be used in Flight Recorder mode, as it doesn't have the required processor inside. If you have the black VCI, you will have to continue to use a laptop to collect data (at a much slower rate), and the black VCI will NOT record all of the extended data for timing, etc. that the blue VCI running in Flight Recorder mode will. PERIOD.
The VERY nice thing about Flight Recorder mode is that it can gather lots more data much faster, even on a J1850 bike, since it doesn't need to feed those data frames to an attached laptop... it simply stores them in its internal memory. On a CANBUS bike it's REALLY fast... like over 20 full data frames per second. And, it works across ignition on/off cycles... so you don't need to gather data in a run all at once. It writes a separate file in the VCI each time you turn the ignition on, and you can pull these multiple files into VTune later, in one operation. You can ride for a long time and capture TONS of data without having to mess with anything. Pretty slick! BLUE VCI ONLY, THOUGH.
ALSO, the blue VCI does some other things that the black VCI can't do. The blue VCI automatically backs up the stock calibration right in the VCI, and stores it there forever as a .MTE file. You can retrieve it from the VCI and save it on your computer for backup purposes. You cannot open it in the TTS software though, because .MTE files are not editable. But if you ever need to restore it, then you will ALWAYS have it.
The blue VCI also stores the last calibration that was flashed into the ECM right in the VCI as a .MT8 file (or .MT7 file if that's what was flashed). You can retrieve this calibration and store it on your computer, AND you can open it in the TTS software to view and manipulate it. If you have had a custom tune done, the last calibration that was flashed into your ECM is your custom calibration that you paid for. So, you will always have your custom calibration, even if your tuner refuses to give it to you... it's right there in your blue VCI. The older black VCI can't do this. So, to summarize, here's why you want the new TTS 2 blue VCI:
1. Is the TTS VCI going forward, to support all new TTS functionality.
2. Supports the new Flight Recorder
mode, without requiring a laptop to be attached. Flight Recorder captures much more data much more quickly than having a laptop attached. Flight Recorder operates across ignition on/off cycles, enabling easy "all day" data recording under real-world riding conditions.
3. Captures extended data for timing tuning. The upcoming TTS 3 software will have the new Timing Assist functionality to use the captured timing data for setting timing properly.
4. Stores the OEM stock calibration in the VCI automatically.
5. Stores the last flashed calibration (your custom tune) in the VCI automatically.