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HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« on: November 01, 2006, 04:20:06 PM »

I am having trouble bolting my front header pipe on my SECUSE2. The header pipe is coming too close to the brake pedal and does not have enough clearance for the heat sheild to be installed without hitting the pedal.

The dealer we bought these from in Spring Hill Fla said they would fit fine. When we called back today regarding this problem he told us that when they install them they just take a screw driver and rag and bend the heat shield a little. WTF?? So we called another dealer in california and they said to go buy and use the Harley exhaust gaskets as this would help, that they only expeierence a problem on every 1-2 out of 10 depending on how the motor is sitting.......... well I guess I got one of the 1 or 2 out of 10 cause that ain't working either!!

I am ready to send these back and get a refund. The dealer should have mentioned the thing about the heat shield in the first place. BTW... don't know if you can tell by the pics but there aint no way the heat shield could be "bent" that much, it would still hit the pedal.

How are the V&H's working out? Anyone have any pics they can post real quick?

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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 04:26:44 PM »

Heres another:
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 05:28:25 PM »

Hey Rob.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2006, 06:05:34 PM »

Rob...here's a pic I found, but it's not an 07.  The part numbers for the pipes are different for the 07's, so are you sure they gave you the right thing?  I've never had my brake pedal off, but is there a way to move it outboard enough to gain the clearance you need?
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2006, 07:11:19 PM »

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Rob...here's a pic I found, but it's not an 07.  T[highlight]he part numbers for the pipes are different for the 07's[/highlight], so are you sure they gave you the right thing?  I've never had my brake pedal off, [highlight]but is there a way to move it outboard enough [/highlight]to gain the clearance you need?


Interesting..... I had these ordered with a friend of mine as he wanted some as well. The dealer the shop ordered them from said the same pipe fits both bikes. My friend has an 06 ultra classic. The His pipes went on fine but he has a SoftBrake brake pedal which lays down a bit.

We took the pin out of my brake pedal and let it rock forward as far as it would go and there still wasn't enough room. We called the dealer in California (not the one who sold it as we only get voice mail every other time we call the guy in Spring Hill Fla) and he said if there is not any old exhaust gasket left in the port (there is not) then we need a new header pipe. Finally got thru to the delaer he bought from in SpringHill and he said he would have to get permission from his boss to do that as EVERY 07 SE Brake pedal or others with a Kuryakin brake pedal were always a problem... not the pipe.

I love Bassani's........ I hope this is just a rogue header pipe!!

Here is a pic of the stock pipe without the heat shield as the BAssani is without the heat shield.... look at the gap between the two. We compared pipes and the Bassani bend is not exact with the stock. There is also a crease in the back of the stock pipe that the Bassani does not have.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2006, 07:18:27 PM »

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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 07:33:58 PM »

Rob,

My V&H's went on fine.  The front is close to the brake pedal, a little too close for comfort, but it does not touch and I had no issues when I rode it tonight to the dealer for the dyno-tune.

I did use new harley gaskets.  I should have taken pic's when I was done.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 07:37:09 PM »

One other thing, the V&H's have a notch in the heat shield right at the brake pedal.  I guess they saw there was a possibility of a clearance issue.

The Bassani's look like they do sit out quite a bit farther than the V&H's.  Good quality company, I'm a bit surprised you're having issues...
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2006, 07:44:45 PM »

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One other thing, the V&H's have [highlight]a notch in the heat shield right at the [/highlight]brake pedal.  I guess they saw there was a possibility of a clearance issue.

The Bassani's look like they do sit out quite a bit farther than the V&H's.  Good quality company, I'm a bit surprised you're having issues...


The only heat shields that came with the Bassanis was the power loop shield and the one from that to the left side shield. I have to use the stock shields on the rest. A notch wouldn't help much as there is only a smidge over (if even) an 1/8" clearencewith only the pipe on and not the heat shield.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2006, 07:49:41 PM »

Wow.  I'm really confused now!  You have to use the stock heat shields?

Don't know what to say, bro..  They should have known that there would be an issue!!

I'd be pissed!
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 08:13:50 PM »

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Wow.  I'm really confused now!  You have to use the stock heat shields?

Don't know what to say, bro..  They should have known that there would be an issue!!

[highlight]I'd be pissed![/highlight]


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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 08:44:42 PM »

Rob, look at the part numbers in the JP Cycles on line cataglog...they are definitely different part numbers.  Now, having said that, it may be because of the O2 bungs are installed in the 07 versions, and the pipe itself may be bent exactly the same.  I'm interested in the outcome of this, because John Golden has recommended these pipes to me and I am considering them for my 06 Ultra.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 09:06:06 PM »

Flying Ace, have you had a chance to ride since the new exhaust? Looking forward to the dyno. :)


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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 09:19:09 PM »

Just rode it to the dealer tonight.  First time since I put the exhaust on.

They're doing the 1K service and Dyno tomorrow.

My impressions on the short ride there was very good.  I had the same V&H setup on my '05 Ultra and it just sounds deeper, meaner and the bike was begging me to get on it!!

I was good though and just babied her over there since she's got the stock map in her.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 09:32:33 PM »

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Rob, look at the part numbers in the JP Cycles on line cataglog...they are definitely different part numbers.  Now, having said that, it may be because of the O2 bungs are installed in the 07 versions, and the pipe itself may be bent exactly the same.  I'm interested in the outcome of this, because John Golden has recommended these pipes to me and I am considering them for my 06 Ultra.


TC,

My friend who has the 06 Ultra (with the 95" upgrade) did get the same ones with the 02 sensors because he has a Stoke gauge installed in place of his air temp gauge. He then installed a switch just above his cig lighter and can flip to get his stochiometric reading individually at the flip of that switch. So....... maybe the 07 models will fit his 06 and therefore they are the same. Makes sense.

I would go with the Bassani's if I were you as they fit fine on my 05 and his 06 (although his 06 is NOT a factory CVO SE) and I loved the performance on my 05. I REALLY hope these work out.
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