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CVO Technical => Electronic Toys and Gadgets => Topic started by: Hoist! on May 11, 2008, 11:05:41 PM
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I bought a dual Xetronics HID setup from Jim a few months ago. Never really got a chance to test them out. Driving in NYC at night, they aren't terribly noticable. And my trips hadn't yielded any night riding in dark areas. Until this weekend!
There are no street lights in the rural Northern Catskills. Well, Cybil took us, the Reggabs, and the GH's home Sat night. Neither of them could see chit with the stock 2 lamp HD halogen setup. Same as I had on my SERK. But I gotta tell ya'll, that HID setup IS THE CAT'S ASS!!! :2vrolijk_21:
I also have PIAA Xtreme White bulbs in my spots. On low beam with the spots it was really good on those dark roads. And the dual HID's on High Beam were unreal. It bathed the road in light, and for the first time in 37 years of riding, I WAS ABLE TO SEE PERFECTLY at night!
If you don't have these, F the chrome chit! Get a set of these first. YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Glad you like them Howie, I personally will never have a bike without them.
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Is it a bulb replacement or lamp assembly replacement? If it's just a bulb.....no brainer!
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I bought a dual Xetronics HID setup from Jim a few months ago. Never really got a chance to test them out. Driving in NYC at night, they aren't terribly noticable. And my trips hadn't yielded any night riding in dark areas. Until this weekend!
There are no street lights in the rural Northern Catskills. Well, Cybil took us, the Reggabs, and the GH's home Sat night. Neither of them could see chit with the stock 2 lamp HD halogen setup. Same as I had on my SERK. But I gotta tell ya'll, that HID setup IS THE CAT'S ASS!!! :2vrolijk_21:
I also have PIAA Xtreme White bulbs in my spots. On low beam with the spots it was really good on those dark roads. And the dual HID's on High Beam were unreal. It bathed the road in light, and for the first time in 37 years of riding, I WAS ABLE TO SEE PERFECTLY at night!
If you don't have these, F the chrome chit! Get a set of these first. YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Hoist
Is this just a HID for Halogen swap out, or does it require a major process to replace the origional Halogen with this unit? Plus what wattage did you get, because I have seen all different sizes on-line and don't know CHIT about what I would need or want.
Mark
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It's almost a bulb replacement, but that's just 1 part of it. The SERK has the dual halogen setup. The HID setup has 2 HID lamps that replace the halogen lamps. But the HID lamps need to use electronic ignitors as well. All the necessary items for the conversion are included. It's pretty straighforward. You just need to make room for the ignitors in the SERK headlight nacelle. FD's are easy! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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It's almost a bulb replacement, but that's just 1 part of it. The SERK has the dual halogen setup. The HID setup has 2 HID lamps that replace the halogen lamps. But the HID lamps need to use electronic ignitors as well. All the necessary items for the conversion are included. It's pretty straighforward. You just need to make room for the ignitors in the SERK headlight nacelle. FD's are easy! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Thanks Hoist!
This helps me for looking at making the decision to go HID, by the way what watt bulbs did you get? Or is there only one that works?
Mark
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no wattage on HID, just color spec
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no wattage on HID, just color spec
Thanks Neil,
I thought the 8000K was a wattage rating, sorry for my ignorance on this subject. Because I have seen advertisementd for 4000k, 6000k, 8000k, 11000k.
Which was confusing, and as most of the people on here you always want the biggest and best you can get to work!
Mark
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this should help
(http://www.xtralights.com/categories/HID3colors.gif)
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Thanks Hoist!
This helps me for looking at making the decision to go HID, by the way what watt bulbs did you get? Or is there only one that works?
Mark
The bulbs you use are based on the color you want to project. HID's will emit various color outputs based on their temperature rating. I used the "white" ones. Don't remember the temp. Check Xetronics website or contact H-D Dude! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Yeah. like Neal said!
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HID on low beam w/PIAA xtreme white spots
Hoist! 8)
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HID's on High Beam.
Hoist! 8)
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The bulbs you use are based on the color you want to project. HID's will emit various color outputs based on their temperature rating. I used the "white" ones. Don't remember the temp. Check Xetronics website or contact H-D Dude! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Yeah. like Neal said!
AWESOME guys,
Since they don't have Orange I guess I will look into getting the White ones. Unless d00d knows a source for Orange...lol
Mark
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Hoist
Hope all's well with you.
RE: I also have PIAA Xtreme White bulbs in my spots's
Did you have to install anything to use these bulbs?
where did you purchase the bulbs?
We are working our way back (slowly) from the Sedona run and should be home by Thursday after we play along the PCH from San Diego to Monterey.
SanJoseDuke
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It's almost a bulb replacement, but that's just 1 part of it. The SERK has the dual halogen setup. The HID setup has 2 HID lamps that replace the halogen lamps. But the HID lamps need to use electronic ignitors as well. All the necessary items for the conversion are included. It's pretty straighforward. You just need to make room for the ignitors in the SERK headlight nacelle. FD's are easy! ;)
Hoist! 8)
$$??
This site is killing me...
I was debt free after my last deployment - I may need to volunteer to go back to clear the slate again!
Sean
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Seano me boy....Git yer money out! :D
It happens to us all here....even me, one of the cheapest sob's ever!!
I do like those lights though...how much???
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Seano me boy....Git yer money out! :D
It happens to us all here....even me, one of the cheapest sob's ever!!
I do like those lights though...how much???
Right about 4 c notes and you'll be done. The difference really is night and day.(pun intended). :2vrolijk_21:
I'll let you take mine for a spin at CHL so you can see the difference first hand.
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Right about 4 c notes and you'll be done. The difference really is night and day.(pun intended). :2vrolijk_21:
I'll let you take mine for a spin at CHL so you can see the difference first hand.
:indian_chief:
Thats all I need.....to ride a lit up, traxxioned, whatever the hell else done to it bike while there...
I'm screwed... :)
:D :D :D
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Thats all I need.....to ride a lit up, traxxioned, whatever the hell else done to it bike while there...
I'm screwed... :)
:D :D :D
Not as badly as you may think.
Traxxion is right on the way home.
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Not as badly as you may think.
I see that small text...yooooou ebcm....
Another trip could be warranted as I would love too bring the oldster up to ride some backroads...
Nothing like a 74 year old springer front, no back suspension, tubed tires with 20psi in em and friction brakes to liven up the ride...Now thats a bike you need to take for a spin!
Traxxion is right on the way home.
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Last weekend REGGAB and myself had the "pleasure" of running behind Hoist in the Catskill Mtns and his light output was outstanding. I actually rode using his lights as my OEM ain't worth a ch!t. Definitely money well spent IMO.
Howie
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Last weekend REGGAB and myself had the "pleasure" of running behind Hoist in the Catskill Mtns and his light output was outstanding. I actually rode using his lights as my OEM ain't worth a ch!t. Definitely money well spent IMO.
Howie
The HID is nice. I was behind EH, and GH was behind me. In comparison, the lit area in front of EH looked like a stadium while the lit area in front of me looked like a hallway illuminated by a nightlight. Having EH up front definitely made the ride better.
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Thats all I need.....to ride a lit up, traxxioned, whatever the hell else done to it bike while there...
powder coated frame
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I see that small text...yooooou ebcm....
Another trip could be warranted as I would love too bring the oldster up to ride some backroads...
Nothing like a 74 year old springer front, no back suspension, tubed tires with 20psi in em and friction brakes to liven up the ride...Now thats a bike you need to take for a spin!
Just say when.
Actually, we haven't had anyone stay at the Traxxion Hostle in awhile. Make an appointment, come up and camp with us for a Friday appt. and then we can ride Saturday and you can drive home on Sunday. Easy!
:indian_chief:
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Keep it comin you basserds....What next hid for the 6v oldster..whos light is so dim it flickers...
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Just say when.
Actually, we haven't had anyone stay at the Traxxion Hostle in awhile. Make an appointment, come up and camp with us for a Friday appt. and then we can ride Saturday and you can drive home on Sunday. Easy!
:indian_chief:
Thanks Chuck, that sounds like a plan...will do too but maybe in early October....
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Last weekend REGGAB and myself had the "pleasure" of running behind Hoist in the Catskill Mtns and his light output was outstanding. I actually rode using his lights as my OEM ain't worth a ch!t. Definitely money well spent IMO.
Howie
Yea, my first and only lesson needed on the benefits of HID was when 2Lane came over for his Traxxion front end and we rode to dinner. On the way home Don was behind me but his headlight was out-shining mine ahead of me. That was an expensive dinner, but worth every penny. I'll never have another bike without HID.
Too bad it took EH so long to figure it out. You can lead a horse to water........
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Thanks Chuck, that sounds like a plan...will do too but maybe in early October....
Good weather choice. :2vrolijk_21:
:indian_chief:
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So with all the HID talk here - anyone else have a probelm with the overhead highway signs being so lit up they affect your night vision?
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Keep it comin you basserds....What next hid for the 6v oldster..whos light is so dim it flickers...
Miker
at least the oldster has a centerstand
so your already ahead!
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So with all the HID talk here - anyone else have a probelm with the overhead highway signs being so lit up they affect your night vision?
Kind of. The main problem I had was when I adjusted the lights like I wanted them on low beam, oncoming traffic wasn't too fond of my chosen setting. I've since compromised the low beam setting, which reduces the sign-lighting effect you describe.
Before dropping the beam, the signs were intense and the hi-beam could have been used for hunting coons in the trees. ;D
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Kind of. The main problem I had was when I adjusted the lights like I wanted them on low beam, oncoming traffic wasn't too fond of my chosen setting. I've since compromised the low beam setting, which reduces the sign-lighting effect you describe.
Before dropping the beam, the signs were intense and the hi-beam could have been used for hunting coons in the trees. ;D
I have the low beam adjusted so the main body of light is on the road ahead.
I have always been flashed at night due to the spots, one of which is aimed a bit at oncoming drivers, obviously they see me.
The high beam are useless on my bike. Same light just splattered haphazardly.
Single bulb HID's do not have a true high beam. The bulb's relative position in the reflector is just moved by a solenoid. I suppose the best thing to do would be the dual element setup like Don has, but when do you stop on all of the "needed" things?
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I have the low beam adjusted so the main body of light is on the road ahead.
I have always been flashed at night due to the spots, one of which is aimed a bit at oncoming drivers, obviously they see me.
The high beam is useless on my bike. Same light just splatters haphazardly.
Single bulb HID's do not have a true high beam. The bulb's relative position is just moved by a solenoid. I suppose the best thing to do would be the dual element setup like Don has, but when do you stop on all of the "needed" things?
That's an easy one. "When you sell the bike." :huepfenlol2:
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A winning lotto ticket, thats all I need...
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We just threw the bulbs in without any adjustment. I loved the way it bathes the road in lighting. It's bright, but not annoying. Riding in pitch black upstate and was able to see the road and upcoming turns pefectly. Turned off the Hi Beams when oncoming cars approached, which reverted to Low Beam w/Spots. Never got flashed once and was still able to see perfectly. ;)
Hoist! 8)
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upgradeing to the H-D dual bulb housing and the HID was problly the best upgrade i did
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i installed a different brand in my fltr,
You know the rules no posting like this without details and
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Left about 6:00 yesterday morning riding the Road Glide up to Kansas City to meet a couple friends. The plan was to then ride out to a Chinese place in Ogallala, NE. Got word while still about a half hour from their place that they'd awakened with a sick kid so no babysitting for the day and they were out for the ride. So I kept on going. And going and going and going.
Finally got off the bike about 9:00 this morning back at my house. During the long great overnight had some foothills and some Plains spent awhile paying close attention to what the headlight was doing.
The SERG has the reflector that is the European variant in it. With a couple of good bulbs in it it's surprisingly not bad. It's still not as good as the HID in the SEEG though. Unlike what the SEEG was the SERG is at least rideable at night. On anything other then long straight roads the SEEG was simply dangerous.
The SERG with the dual H4s is at that annoying line between potentially "good enough" but yet obviously not as good as the other bike or as good as what it could be. Since there is such an obvious SEEG to SERG comparison to be made anytime I hope from one to the other now guess it'll get the HIDs too before too much time passes. HID on top of this better reflector should scare the opossum chitless.
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Maybe I could come out and we could ride the sisters together, then you could make an informed decision
(sounds dirty doesn't it :coolblue:)
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Maybe I could come out and we could ride the sisters together, then you could make an informed decision
(sounds dirty doesn't it :coolblue:)
oooooh
Ok, this is going to sound stupid (yeah, I know, what's new) but after watching the SERG push light out in front of me all last night I do have a plan. About midnight tonight going to shove them out on the street side by side and run them setting away from the street lights. Just to see how much difference there really is.
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Your neighbors will really start to wonder now
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Your neighbors will really start to wonder now
Like that's anything new....
Ask Ken and Cheri about the paint job on the front porch and why it is the way it is.... :huepfenlol2: :drink:
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Like that's anything new....
Ask Ken and Cheri about the paint job on the front porch and why it is the way it is.... :huepfenlol2: :drink:
Used two different bikes to light up the work area?
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Remember when:
We rode rigid framed bikes with lights that flickered with 1” foam pad with some leather wrapped around a seat pan on the fender and our sleeping bag was tied to the welded in place sissy bar, electric starters were for cars…
We slept in rest areas cause they were close to the highway.
Air shocks, GPS, , stereos, component speakers, high tech raingear heated seats, heated grips, Corbin, Xetronic HID……………………..
Good Lord when does it end?
I’m ordering lights amp and speakers tomorrow (from Jim) and if this nonsense doesn’t end soon I’m going to have to block this site, do parental controls work here?
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Remember when:
We rode rigid framed bikes with lights that flickered with 1” foam pad with some leather wrapped around a seat pan on the fender and our sleeping bag was tied to the welded in place sissy bar,
Yes. But then I was too young and stupid to realize that pissing blood at the end of a long day wasn't cool, that old saddletramp sleeping bags really were nasty and my eyes hadn't turned 40 yet and forgot how to see in the damn dark.
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LOL
Amen to that!
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Yes. But then I was too young and stupid to realize that pissing blood at the end of a long day wasn't cool, that old saddletramp sleeping bags really were nasty and my eyes hadn't turned 40 yet and forgot how to see in the damn dark.
Yeah, but just think, back then you didn't care how you looked or smelled and now you are concerned because your buds let you eat dinner in a fancy restaurant smelling like a pile of
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Yeah, but just think, back then you didn't care how you looked or smelled and now you are concerned because you buds let you eat dinner in a fancy restaurant smelling like a pile of
No.... I pretty much don't care now either.
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No.... I pretty much don't care now either.
One of the benefits of getting older :bananarock: