Topic: SEUC² Rineharts PC Roll Your Own (Read 3546 times)

hard10 · « **on:** January 20, 2007, 11:06:23 PM »

Ok here's the deal. I had the pipes installed...[size=24]WOW[/size] Why didn't I do this sooner? Numbers don't mean as much to me as seat of the pants drivability. This thing really has some nice torque & sound.
Here are the numbers: Run #4 TQ = 92.62, HP = 78.4 Run #8 TQ = 103.7, HP = 84.6.
The bottom line is that I like it.

hard10 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2007, 11:08:15 PM »

I can see why there would be less heat.

hard10 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2007, 11:09:05 PM »

hard10 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2007, 11:11:21 PM »

I'm wondering if there is going to be a crome part to cover the bung?

RedDevil · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2007, 11:15:19 PM »

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Ok here's the deal. I had the pipes installed...[size=24]WOW[/size] Why didn't I do this sooner? Numbers don't mean as much to me as seat of the pants drivability. This thing really has some nice torque & sound.
Here are the numbers: Run #4 TQ = 92.62, HP = 78.4 Run #8 TQ = 103.7, HP = 84.6.
[highlight]The bottom line is that I like it[/highlight].

AJ,
My sentiments exactly...the only person that needs to be happy with what you've done to your ride, is you. I pretty much got the same numbers (86+hp and 107+torque) with my setup and I'm extremely happy with that. Enjoy the ride and thanks for the pics.
Cheers [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif],
Red

hard10 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2007, 11:17:35 PM »

I tried to circle it.

kojak · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2007, 07:20:55 AM »

Love my RH! Great choice, looks good. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

bisounours · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2007, 07:26:39 AM »

Great report and good numbers! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Sure, it'll be nice if we have a chrome cover on the bung.

Jacques

SBB · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2007, 08:47:30 AM »

AJ

#'s look good!
The look and the sound is worth the price of admission!
So that was???
R/H's, PC and S/Eagle breather?

Let me know when your up this way!

[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

hdnut · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:47:37 AM »

Nice ride Hard 10,Sweet!Do you have a picture of the front bung mount? My dealer is going to do my install soon and would like to show them picture's if I could.Thank's [smiley=orange.gif]

Hoist! · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2007, 10:47:43 AM »

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Nice ride Hard 10,Sweet!Do you have a picture of the front bung mount? My dealer is going to do my install soon and would like to show them picture's if I could.Thank's [smiley=orange.gif]

Good job AJ. I'm glad you're happy with them and set some of those ponies free!

Hoist! 8-)

hard10 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2007, 10:57:28 AM »

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AJ
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Let me know when your up this way!

[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Chip I should be up this coming weekend for the Charlotte show.

hard10 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2007, 10:58:20 AM »

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Nice ride Hard 10,Sweet!Do you have a picture of the front bung mount? My dealer is going to do my install soon and would like to show them picture's if I could.Thank's [smiley=orange.gif]

I'll get one this afternoon.

crshnbrn · « **Reply #13 on:** January 21, 2007, 11:45:30 AM »

hard10,

You may want to zip-tie the harness for the rear O2 sensor to the transmission vent hose to keep it from laying on the transmission top cover and scuffing the chrome. Also, the battery tender harness pigtail looks precariously close to the exhaust in the photos.

hard10 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:12:39 PM »

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hard10,

You may want to zip-tie the harness for the rear O2 sensor to the transmission vent hose to keep it from laying on the transmission top cover and scuffing the chrome. Also, the battery tender harness pigtail looks precariously close to the exhaust in the photos.

Thanks Crash, [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] I'll check both tomorrow.

hard10 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:15:45 PM »

hdnut, you asked about pix of the front bung. Here they are and someone asked about problems with the brake lever, no problems. AJ

hard10 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:20:34 PM »

hard10 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:25:03 PM »

Break Lever

hard10 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:26:25 PM »

hard10 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:28:17 PM »

I'm hoping this is helping someone.

hard10 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2007, 11:01:13 PM »

d00d, nothing gets by you!!!

hard10 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:42:56 AM »

FYI the part # for the RH TD's on my invoice is: 1800-0434.

I can't seem to find them on BUB's web site.

GasRat · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2007, 02:08:42 AM »

Had to jump in and report that I just finished installing the Rineharts & PCIII. Haven't riden it yet (little to late & don't think the neighbors would appriciate it as much as I would) but fired it up and I have to admit, I had a childish grin and was giggling just a bit. Man I love that sound. I've got the down load for the 07 96" w/rineharts on the PC but am going to try and get to the tuner this week for a custom tune. Like Hard10 I was one of the lucky ones with absolutly no fitment problems & my brake pedal looks about the same as his, maybe 1/4" clearance from pedal to pipe. I wish I would have just said screw it earlier and just put them on after the break in but yoou know what they say, better late than never!

hard10 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2007, 02:17:38 AM »

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Had to jump in... [highlight]I wish I would have just said screw it earlier and just put them on after the break in but yoou know what they say, better late than never![/highlight]

I waited to 2800 & glad they're on now! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=orange.gif]

grit · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2007, 05:01:26 PM »

I've a question. Is the O2 sensor/bung attached to all the header pipes at the same location or just on Rineharts? It sure does clutter up an otherwise cleaned up area. I would think a shorter version with the chrome cover molden in could be made. If Bub doesn't I'd consider doing it myself.

RedDevil · « **Reply #25 on:** January 22, 2007, 05:13:46 PM »

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I've a question. Is the O2 sensor/bung attached to all the header pipes at the same location or just on Rineharts? It sure does clutter up an otherwise cleaned up area. I would think a shorter version with the chrome cover molden in could be made. If Bub doesn't I'd consider doing it myself.

They all pretty much put the bung in the same general location on the headers. The difference is on how they angle the bung.

cheers [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif],
Red

hard10 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2007, 05:21:37 PM »

Quote from: hard10 on January 20, 2007, 11:06:23 PM

Ok here's the deal. I had the pipes installed...[size=24]WOW[/size] Why didn't I do this sooner? Numbers don't mean as much to me as seat of the pants drivability. This thing really has some nice torque & sound.
Here are the numbers: Run #4 TQ = 92.62, HP = 78.4 Run #8 TQ = 103.7, HP = 84.6.
The bottom line is that I like it.

Rhino & Unbalenced, are these numbers similar to what your showing?

GasRat · « **Reply #27 on:** April 15, 2007, 08:16:35 PM »

Hard10, it sounds like you and I are running the same set up, and here was my dyno sheet I posted awhile back.

hard10 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2007, 10:10:24 PM »

GasRat, we obviously are not running the same map. Your #'s are clearly higher.

GasRat · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2007, 10:43:54 PM »

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not to sharp on the mapping thing but I know that HD-Dude posted the map off of my bike for me on the site under the map section. I'm sure you could download it and compare to yours somehow. I have to say that Bob down at RC Cycles in Hayward, Ca. is pretty well known around here for his tuning ability with both PCIII & RaceTuners. Have to say that I've been happy with the results on my bike.

hd-dude · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2007, 11:48:44 PM »

AJ;
Here's the map from Gasrat's bike....

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=10519.0

hard10 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 16, 2007, 12:51:51 AM »

I just looked at GasRat's compared to the stock 812-025 map. There are some major # differences. I don't know what they mean but they are different!
AJ

GasRat · « **Reply #32 on:** April 16, 2007, 01:07:29 AM »

AJ, Did you get a dyno sheet on yours? I would be curious to see what your AFR looked like just to see the difference between ours since the #'s are quit a bit different. I know he did a lot of changes to the #'s during my tune to bring that AFR line as flat as possible.

hard10 · « **Reply #33 on:** April 16, 2007, 01:32:28 AM »

Quote from: GasRat on April 16, 2007, 01:07:29 AM

AJ, Did you get a dyno sheet on yours? I would be curious to see what your AFR looked like just to see the difference between ours since the #'s are quit a bit different. I know he did a lot of changes to the #'s during my tune to bring that AFR line as flat as possible.

I did not. Cox's claimed that the printer was not working when the did it. The Dyno machine was brand new when I had it done. I may have to have it redone.

GasRat · « **Reply #34 on:** April 16, 2007, 09:17:52 AM »

I could be wrong, But they should have saved it in the computer and would probably be able to pull it up & reprint it for you without doing the dyno over again. I would call to find out first. could save you some time & money.

Midnight Rider · « **Reply #35 on:** April 16, 2007, 10:36:30 AM »

Quote from: hard10 on April 16, 2007, 01:32:28 AM

I did not. Cox's claimed that the printer was not working when the did it. The Dyno machine was brand new when I had it done. I may have to have it redone.

AJ...even if the printer was broken, the tech should have saved the file in the computer. He/she can e-mail that file to you as an attachment and you can open it up after going to the Dynojet website and downloading software necessary to read that type of file. You can then print it yourself in several ways...either directly, or by doing a print screen and capture the screen as a jpg file.

I don't think I've got the very best tune I could get on my bike, but my numbers with an SE/AC, RH TD's, and PCIII were 97TQ and 94HP, if memory serves me. That's on a 06 103 SEUC. I'm happy with it until I do cams next winter. Fuel economy is 34-38, depending on how I ride.

The HP numbers I see from a lot of the 110's seem a bit low to me...I guess it's a characteristic of the engine. TQ is good, but HP is a bit low.

Torque gets you going, but HP keeps you going. It depends on your riding style and your shifting points.

A couple of questions I would ask: did they do an advanced tune (tune each cylinder independently), and what was the target air/fuel ratio for "normal" and WOT conditions?

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