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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2012, 12:04:45 PM »

thanks for the pic.  I think I see what you are referring to.  I dont think that anything has changed from 09 forward so I am not sure either.  I was going to give them a call to discuss further.  I will let you all know once I find out.

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Did you talk to Dan at Traxxion?  I can't imagine that the SG is any different than the SEUC with regards to bag fitment...the '12 SG had speakers in the lid.  Perhaps that wiring is different than the lock/Ipod wiring on the SEUC?  The Bitubo's have always been a tight fit, but Brian's solution to shim the bag mounting bracket out a smidge works great.  For ease of adjustment, you want the compression damping knob, located on the top of the black canister you see in the photo on top of the shock.  It can be mounted upside down...the shock does't care...but it makes it a little more difficult to set the compression damping knob when you ride two up.

With regards to 300 vs 330 mm...the stock SESG has a 12" shock on the rear and standard height for the front end.  If you like or need (because of inseam length) the lowered rear, you'll want the 300mm size.  If you want to have more ground clearance in curves and the added 1" in the rear doesn't matter about getting your feet on the ground, I'd go with the 330mm.  You'll drag fewer parts when riding hard in the turns.
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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2012, 12:38:30 PM »

I just got off the phone with Dan.  He too is perplexed.  He has not seen a 12, but several clients that purchased the Bitubo's have told him about the bag hitting.  I have no problem with needing to shim the bag a little.  I am concerned about the 330's being too long for me.  inseam is at 30".  I don't really want the 300's either since I don't want to lower my clearance.  Dan said I would lose an inch on the 330's due to stiffer spring and longer length.  I am going to also call Howard at MM and see what he says.  As I stated earlier I did have the 3-3's on my 09. 
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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2012, 01:00:48 PM »

I just got off the phone with Dan.  He too is perplexed.  He has not seen a 12, but several clients that purchased the Bitubo's have told him about the bag hitting.  I have no problem with needing to shim the bag a little.  I am concerned about the 330's being too long for me.  inseam is at 30".  I don't really want the 300's either since I don't want to lower my clearance.  Dan said I would lose an inch on the 330's due to stiffer spring and longer length.  I am going to also call Howard at MM and see what he says.  As I stated earlier I did have the 3-3's on my 09. 

With the 300's (11.811 inches), you won't be lowering your bike from where it is right now...it's already got a 12" rear shock.  The 330's (12.9921 inches) would be the same as a 13" shock, which is what comes on the UC models.  I would bet you that shimming the bag bracket with a washer is all that would be necessary for a proper fitment...a lot of people are not very creative when it comes to installing parts that are non stock...doing a slight mod to make things fit is no big deal.  I know Ohlin makes a good shock too, but I can't imagine anything being better than the Bitubo, particularly with three way adjusting.  What makes the Bitubo compression damping nice, once the spring is adjusted for the proper sag, and the rebound adjustment is set (you can then forget about it), is that there are about 12 "clicks" for adjusting, and it's a needle valve that you're adjusting, so the relationship is non linear.  In other words...moving it from 3 to 7 is not the same as moving it from 7 to 10...the effect is greater with each click, the higher the number.  If that makes any sense...
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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2012, 01:22:31 PM »

 
The bags hitting the shocks on these bikes is really nothing new.  The bags on my '04 also came into contact with the canister.  A 1" piece of fuzzy velcro on the bag at the contact point solved that issue, just like a couple of large flat washers underneath the front bag mounting bracket has done on the '12.  Unless people are using the sleeves that come in the box with shocks, which would push them outward and into the bags more, I can't believe there is that much tolerance variability bike-to-bike that there would be that much of a repetitive fitment issue, particularly with the one model year.  The contact with the grommet was so slight, that I probably didn't really need to do anything, as there is some "flex" in the shock bushings that allows the canister to move a bit.  I just thought it would be a good idea to shim the bracket for whenever I had a load in the bags, which would tend to make them buldge a bit.

Anyway, very strange.  Good luck with your decision.
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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2012, 09:30:34 AM »

I have no concerns about any rubbing as well.  Shimming the bag out a little is no biggie.  I did speak to Howard at MM and I am very intrigued about the JRI's that he sells.  I really don't think I can go wrong with any of the options that we have been discussing (Ohlins, JRI, Bitubos).  Now i just have to pull the trigger.  Thanks all for your insight. 

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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2013, 08:19:51 PM »

   I had the Progressive Monotube kit installed last week and WOW!!! What an upgrade over the oem springs. The biggest difference, or should I say improvement is no more front brake dive. It gives you way more control and stability when coming to a sudden stop and you find yourself using your front brake a lot more than you use to. Bumps don't even feel them, way smoother and not as harsh as stock. I made the 1" lower adjustment, which allows more weight distributed to the front wheel , much better high speed cornering and set the adjustment to stiff.
   With the new rear 944's adjusted 1 turn, neck bearing adjusted back to spec, swing arm bushing replaced and two new tires.......At 45,000 miles I just got a new bike..let'z ride
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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2013, 10:53:10 AM »

Has anyone used this to solve front end wobbling?
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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2013, 12:00:45 PM »

   I had the Progressive Monotube kit installed last week and WOW!!! What an upgrade over the oem springs. The biggest difference, or should I say improvement is no more front brake dive. It gives you way more control and stability when coming to a sudden stop and you find yourself using your front brake a lot more than you use to. Bumps don't even feel them, way smoother and not as harsh as stock. I made the 1" lower adjustment, which allows more weight distributed to the front wheel , much better high speed cornering and set the adjustment to stiff.
   With the new rear 944's adjusted 1 turn, neck bearing adjusted back to spec, swing arm bushing replaced and two new tires.......At 45,000 miles I just got a new bike..let'z ride

I just did the 944's as well and the Progressive Cartridges are next. I am hoping my results are similar 2 yours. I put a 21" on the front so I will drop mine the 1" as well to get it back close to where bike was designed as to ride higth.


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Re: Monotubes vs HD Premium Fork kit
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2013, 12:37:53 PM »

Finally gonna order them up....anyone confirm the part # to keep stock height on my '12 SG.

These are the #'s at Heritage Cycle Works  :     OEM part number 31-2500

0414-0370

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http://www.heritagecycleworks.com/Product_View.cfm?int_ProductID=4752&ID=0&SubMenu=0

Not a bad price @ $310cdn with shipping included.
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