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Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« on: October 31, 2009, 11:22:15 PM »

Just saw on their website new for 2010 a front monotube front cart system

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/monotube/index.html

I wonder how this compares to the AK-20 Traxxion Dynamics or even the emulators

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 10:16:58 PM »

Just saw on their website new for 2010 a front monotube front cart system

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/monotube/index.html

I wonder how this compares to the AK-20 Traxxion Dynamics or even the emulators

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I've seen this in lots of magazines lately.  They are really promoting the new monotube kits.

I too was wondering about the quality of ride these would provide.

Anyone have knowledge of these yet?
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 12:07:10 AM »

I've seen this in lots of magazines lately.  They are really promoting the new monotube kits.

I too was wondering about the quality of ride these would provide.

Anyone have knowledge of these yet?

The relatively simple install makes it a tempting option to consider.  You going to guinea pig these Dan?
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 08:04:55 AM »

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 08:16:06 AM »

They dont look adjustable like the trax-D.  But the are ALOT less expensive.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 08:38:10 AM »

They dont look adjustable like the trax-D.  But the are ALOT less expensive.

Since the actual damper is self contained and sealed, I doubt there is any provision for adjustment other than spring preload (using spacers).  You can't even change fork oil weight, since the working fluid is sealed in the damper.  For most folks, assuming Progressive got the valving right, that isn't a problem.  Not many folks with whiz-bang ten way adjustable anything actually use the adjustments, especially if they require you to take the fork apart to make the adjustment.

If the objective is to improve on the limp stock damping and sagging springs, this looks like a very cost effective fix.  If the objective is race bike handling, or bragging rights over how much you spent on your ride, look elsewhere. 

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 10:02:43 AM »

The relatively simple install makes it a tempting option to consider.  You going to guinea pig these Dan?

I'm thinking this winter or spring for something to beef up the front and rear of the new SERG.

Sounds like a fairly simple install.

But first, I need to get back on the board track and finish it up.  No Craig, I have not restarted my work on the beast.  I thought I'd say that before you ask...  ;D
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 05:54:29 PM »

Anyone going to take a chance on these??
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 09:25:59 PM »

I'm consider them but am also interested if they can be combined with their 2" lowering kit?
I'll talk to my Drag rep and find out if so they would be added as the 21" front wheeels are installed
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2009, 05:33:31 AM »

I'm consider them but am also interested if they can be combined with their 2" lowering kit?
I'll talk to my Drag rep and find out if so they would be added as the 21" front wheeels are installed

They cannot be combined with the lowering system, nor do they have them for lowered bikes at this time.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2009, 10:17:58 AM »

I do not have a lowered bike but will install a 21" and desire to offset back to stock ride hight in front.
Too bad they cannot accomadate both?
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 07:32:27 PM »

Has anyone read up on Progressive Suspension's new front cartridge set up.

Was told it does not require oil. It is gas charged and adjustable.

Under $400

Anyone got any info :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 07:48:23 PM »

I think this is what you're asking about Brian.  Don't know any more than what's on their website though.

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/monotube/index.html
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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 07:51:05 PM »

They do not have them for our SEEG's since we have shorter fork legs. 
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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 06:54:28 AM »

nTechnical info: Our technical staff will assist you if you have any
problems or questions. Call (714) 523-8700 from 8 am to 4 PM Pacific

Just says it is for 02-05 models with opposite sides...dampener/spring

Will give them a call and find out
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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 08:23:22 AM »

Who is gonna beta test em? hmmmm??
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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 08:29:10 AM »

 :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

I have been considering them over the Traxxion setup.  Only issue with the Traxxion is the 20,000 mile service.  But the suspension is great.  I like Progressives concept.  

It's only money.  Plus, my dealer will install them.

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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2009, 03:36:23 PM »


http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=42834.msg652008#msg652008


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That's it Jerry :2vrolijk_21:

I looked for an earlier thread before starting this one.

Gary...want to combine them :nixweiss:
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2009, 03:37:59 PM »

Pete4854 had the progressive $99 ones in his Pumpkin and it rides just as smooth....these have to be better than stock and a lot less up front cost and definitely less upkeep than the Tractions
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM »

That's it Jerry :2vrolijk_21:

I looked for an earlier thread before starting this one.

Gary...want to combine them :nixweiss:
Done. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2009, 06:13:02 PM »

:nixweiss: :nixweiss:

I have been considering them over the Traxxion setup.  Only issue with the Traxxion is the 20,000 mile service.  But the suspension is great.  I like Progressives concept.  

It's only money.  Plus, my dealer will install them.

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We recommend a 20,000 mile for HD forks, regardless of whether you have aftermarket suspension, to inspect/replace OEM bushings and to put in fresh oil. Lots of our customers go over 20k, you won't damage our AK20s, they are hard coat anodized. Once we modify the forks to accept the AK20s, they can be serviced like normal by the user or by any dealer, (dealers should give us a call for oil level specs, etc). In other words, it's not because of the AK20s that we recommend a 20k service, it's the OEM parts that need to be serviced.

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2009, 06:19:39 PM »

We recommend a 20,000 mile for HD forks, regardless of whether you have aftermarket suspension, to inspect/replace OEM bushings and to put in fresh oil. Lots of our customers go over 20k, you won't damage our AK20s, they are hard coat anodized. Once we modify the forks to accept the AK20s, they can be serviced like normal by the user or by any dealer, (dealers should give us a call for oil level specs, etc). In other words, it's not because of the AK20s that we recommend a 20k service, it's the OEM parts that need to be serviced.



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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2009, 06:23:54 PM »

Pete4854 had the progressive $99 ones in his Pumpkin and it rides just as smooth....these have to be better than stock and a lot less up front cost and definitely less upkeep than the Tractions

Brian, you're not REALLY comparing $99 Progressive whatever he did, to the Traxxion AK-20 cartridge foek coversion, are ya? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

I have HD dampeners, Progressive springs, and heavier PJ-1 fork oil in my ProStreet narrow glide front end. I've got AK-20's on my SERK, FXWG, and FXR. Believe me, my ProStreet front end AIN'T NOTHING like my other bike's front ends!!! NIGHT AND DAY!!! ;)

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 06:56:07 PM »

Brian, you're not REALLY comparing $99 Progressive whatever he did, to the Traxxion AK-20 cartridge foek coversion, are ya? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

I have HD dampeners, Progressive springs, and heavier PJ-1 fork oil in my ProStreet narrow glide front end. I've got AK-20's on my SERK, FXWG, and FXR. Believe me, my ProStreet front end AIN'T NOTHING like my other bike's front ends!!! NIGHT AND DAY!!! ;)

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I'm comparing a $99 upgrade to a $1200 upgrade as a value for the dollar comparison.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2009, 10:18:32 AM »

MandM Cycles has them for $271.96  Do not know what the shipping is.  Mark is usually very fair on shipping charges.

www.mandmcycles.com

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Re: Progressive's new gas filled front suspension
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2009, 08:47:51 PM »

I'm comparing a $99 upgrade to a $1200 upgrade as a value for the dollar comparison.

I replaced the stock fork springs with the Progressive front fork springs about 3 years ago.  They were actually about $79 back then, anyway vastly improved handling over stock and I don't need anything better.  I never rode a bike with the Traxxion front end so I can't compare, but I think Don (2 lane) had the Progressives and then installed the Traxxion setup, so maybe he could chime in.  In order for me to spend another $1200 on the front end, those springs better do more than smooth out a few bumps! (if you know what I mean) :huepfenlol2:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2009, 08:54:15 PM »

No Pete I went from the SEEGs stock front end to the Traxxion Dynamics upgrade.  Am going to give this Progressive option a try though.

The TD package is very good.  Very very good actually.  But if this Progressive Monotube kit is just very good for 800-1000 dollars less and it's something I can do here in the garage some cold Saturday rather than shipping parts all over the country it's worth giving a try.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2009, 09:00:58 PM »

No Pete I went from the SEEGs stock front end to the Traxxion Dynamics upgrade.  Am going to give this Progressive option a try though.

The TD package is very good.  Very very good actually.  But if this Progressive Monotube kit is just very good for 800-1000 dollars less and it's something I can do here in the garage some cold Saturday rather than shipping parts all over the country it's worth giving a try.

Sorry Don, someone on this site did!  I agree, the progressive stuff is good enough for me.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2009, 11:05:19 PM »

Sorry Don, someone on this site did!  I agree, the progressive stuff is good enough for me.

The one winter project the old SERG is going to get is the front end done.  Bike is ten years old and I know the legs have never been touched.  So it's due.  Losing the damned leaky air suspension from 2000 will be a pleasure also.  Losing the dive and keeping the front wheel on the ground a bit more going down the road will all make it worthwhile some weekend (if it ever snows here which it isn't now unlike all the poor guys back east!).
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2009, 01:32:01 PM »

I installed 440s and the monotubes on my 2010 UC about a week ago, and I am very pleased. I had previous good experience with 440s on other bikes, but had never upgraded the front forks on an H-D before. I chose this option over Bitubo & Traxxion  because it was less expensive and  I could get everything done locally.

The ride is much more stable with very little dive during hard braking. I also get much better front end feedback (a good thing in my book). I have don't any touring with this set up yet, but most of the riding has been on local back roads, which are chip seal with good sweeping turns and lots of cattle guards.

The combination of the new frame and these suspension upgrades have made this the most stable and enjoyable H-D that  I  rode. I also have a Buell with Works suspension upgraded to my weight and specs. While the H-d could not possibly feel as planted or nimble as the Buell, the difference is a lot less than before the H-D upgrades. I view this as money well spent.

I obviously cannot compare my current set-up with Bitubo and Traxxions, but I am a happy camper so far ;D.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2009, 10:36:53 AM »

Nice to hear a positive report as I am planing on the Mono install soon  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2010, 12:41:01 PM »

I chatted with Progressive today.They said they should have the 1" lowered Monotube Cartridge by the end of next month.  JWK
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2010, 01:47:12 PM »

I chatted with Progressive today.They said they should have the 1" lowered Monotube Cartridge by the end of next month.  JWK

I think this is the way I will go on my 03 flhrsei2 and 2009 fltrse3  unless someone has a more cost effective approach to improving the ride
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2010, 09:14:44 PM »

Will these work on 2004 SEEG? I know that the progressives will raise it up an inch. Thanks.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2010, 05:30:35 AM »

Just ordered a set for my CVO Road Glide 09, have installed rear 13" 440'sHeavy Duty, hope to find it is a match set for handling without the Traxxion step. May get what I am paying for; however will post my reaction to the handling at a later date when I can get a few miles.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2010, 11:02:05 PM »

So, we can install the stock set from Progressive or do we wait for the -1" set for the CVO's?
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2010, 06:21:26 PM »

Just popped the order from Phatperformance  $253 free shipping w/ the following coupon code HDF312500
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2010, 06:37:32 PM »

I also ordered my set from Phatperfromance. Installation was pretty simple. Haven't been able to take it for a ride yet. Winter here still. I ordered the standard height and had no problems.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2010, 07:24:52 PM »

i will let every one know my opinion as soon as the snow  melts  i got 2 sets today from HD Dude which i thought was a good enough deal plus it kinda keeps the money in house 1 set for Kennys ultra and my Road Glide.



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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2010, 12:02:35 PM »

i will let every one know my opinion as soon as the snow  melts  i got 2 sets today from HD Dude which i thought was a good enough deal plus it kinda keeps the money in house 1 set for Kennys ultra and my Road Glide.



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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2010, 08:27:09 AM »

Taking my bike out this morning to have them put one. Still won't be able to ride for 1+ months though. But I'll be ready.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2010, 08:35:02 AM »

Got them from PHAT in 2 days and they go on Monday!  Excited to hear the news... Its 40 deg here,  but a short ride is in order!
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2010, 12:46:37 AM »

Got them from PHAT in 2 days and they go on Monday!  Excited to hear the news... Its 40 deg here,  but a short ride is in order!

Deaf1, any news to report yet?
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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2010, 08:56:52 AM »

Deaf1, any news to report yet?

Dealer is supposed to get them on this week.... He has 20 bikes to Dyno for the spring thaw...  I am not happy as mine was there first and we are not getting 50-60's daily!!!

Will report asap!
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2010, 08:10:53 PM »

I was able to get out for a ride this weekend and am very satisfied with the mono tube kit. The ride is somewhat firmer without being harsh. Soaks up the bumps well and didn't bottom out over the deep ruts. Thumbs up from me!    :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2010, 09:55:26 PM »

Got mine in.  Now working on the stereo upgrade.  Will report as soon as the nose is back on. :huepfenlol2:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2010, 11:45:17 PM »

Would you guys kindly advise as to what model and year bike installed on.  09 front end was supposedly upgraded so I am particularly interested in these.  Don't say it, my wife already reminded......it's not always all about me ;D ;D
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2010, 08:48:09 PM »

2004 SE EGlide. I used the stock height cartridges to raise the bike up.
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« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2010, 11:32:17 PM »

2009 SERG
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2010, 09:50:36 AM »

Finally got her back from the dealer yesterday (I think I forgot how to ride it was so long!)

What a improvement! Very little dive at braking and excellent all around handling!  Even my dealer was impressed,  and he usually recommends the RaceTech Gold Valve...

I dont think you can go wrong for under $300.00..... If you have done the rear's,  no excuse not to fix your front end....

Long term tests in a few weeks... 70deg today,  but snow this weekend...... CHICAGO! :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2010, 05:17:22 PM »

Just saw this on the progressive site and a few other resellers.  I wonder if this fits the shorter legs in the 04-05 SEEG?

  Progressive Suspension Monotube Fork Lowering Kit for Baggers *31-2501      
   
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Progressive Suspension Monotube Fork Lowering Kit for Baggers
Kit converts dual Damper rod, AND Damper rod / Cartridge forks to true high performance Monotube Cartridge Forks!
This kit contains a pair of high performance, Gas charged Mono-tube  fork  cartridges  complete  with  a  set  of  our famous fork springs.  This kit is a direct internal component replacement for all FLH/FLT models from 1997-2010. No modifcation to forks are required.

Improved Resistance to Front brake dive. Improved front end stabilit. Improved Cornering. Improved Bottoming Control. The VERY BEST in HD Touring bike suspension performance!

31-2501 Fits 97-UP Harley Davidson FLH/FLT *LOWERS (1” or 2”)

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2010, 12:35:41 AM »

Finally got the SERG out of the garage.  I like the new Progressive Monotube, as reported before there is less dive on braking and feels better cornering (due to the stiffer ride).
Pretty easy to install, could probably have done it without removing the forks but I followed the instructions.
Already had the 440's in the rear so I'm rockin'.
Harley could do a lot by supplying there flagship bikes with decent suspension-but what do I expect for $40000.   :2vrolijk_21: 
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« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2010, 09:17:27 AM »

 :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:

But then where would be the fun. 

Who uses the useless HD GPS unit?  So we buy garmin's and the HD OEM's the unit with the HD logo.

New pipes, A/C tuning.  Man then we would all have the same bike.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2010, 02:03:35 PM »

My wife and I rode our 07 SEUC a little over 160 miles yesterday, mostly on back roads. I had Progressive 440HD's 13" installed in the rear and the new standard length Monotube System installed in the front. Two up I noticed more improvement than I had solo. It was night and day. We rode over a set of railroad tracks that we cross all the time and my wife mentioned it was the first time she did not bounce in her seat. The bike handled so much better, even on rough roads. I was wondering if I should upgrade to the new frame, I am now completely satisfied with what I have, not saying the new bike is not better, just that this improvement made me that happy. The only negative that I have experienced is the legnth of my front forks, it seems that my front end sits about a half or quarter of an inch lower in the front, Progressive should tell folks that there system lowers the front end a little bit, one other guy that installed the system mentioned the same thing.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2010, 04:54:12 PM »

 :drink: :drink:
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I too had an 07 and finally bit the bullet and bough the 09 after much deliberation.

Bottom line, best HD I have ever onwed.

Between the new suspension dynamics, new frame, new tire sizes (I have over 11000 on the rear and atleast 3000 to go) and the ABS, the ride is a huge improvement.  Huge, enormous.

No wobble etc. 

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2010, 04:18:07 PM »

i've had the 12.5" 440hd shocks on the rear of my 08tr, just recently installed the front monotube cartridge kit in the front standard height. what a difference in the ride. :2vrolijk_21:

one of the best upgrades for the monies IMHO.


ride on

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edit: i have traxxion cartridge front, bitubo 300mm shocks on my fltrse3 this is an excellent setup too. hd will come around one day for there stock suspension. :drink:





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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2010, 09:27:58 PM »

I just ordered the Monotube Lowering kit.I have 21/18 Renegades and 12" 440's.Current front suspension  is H-D profile 1"lowered.I amconsidering going 2"with the Monotubes.I believe this will level the bike out.Any reason not to do this? thanks J.W.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2010, 10:17:53 PM »

bump

Precisely what the upgraded suspension is for.  Gotta love contextual posting :2vrolijk_21: .
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« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2010, 09:18:07 AM »

Precisely what the upgraded suspension is for.  Gotta love contextual posting :2vrolijk_21: .
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2010, 08:27:08 AM »

Thanks to Deaf1 !  :pepper:

I just ordered the Monotube with the discount code, I'm putting on their  Touring link frame stabilizer at the same time on my 103"  07 Street Glide.

I'll let you all know how it goes.  

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« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2010, 12:40:27 PM »

The monotube's came in today .. not bad 4 days from the left coast.

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« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2010, 12:51:14 PM »

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2010, 02:14:56 PM »

I've gone thru this thread to see if I could spot someone who put the monotube on a 2009 cvo road glide AND has had an opportunity to evaluate the ride.  Please let me know what you think. Also did it effect the height of the bike.  I have 13inch ST on the back and it seems to have raised the bike about 1/2 inch.  
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #68 on: April 06, 2010, 06:26:48 PM »

I was able to get out last week with the wife and I have to agree with scottt that it rode even better two up. I noticed it right away. I'm still smiling!
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #69 on: April 07, 2010, 11:58:08 AM »

Well i got my mono tubes installed yesterday and drove home and then i road another 165 miles they are amazing after about ten miles they get warmed up and i cant believe how nice a ride i got i also have 21 inch heathens front an a 18 rear bike looks alot better and now i can take the stupid spacer off my kickstand! Cant wait till next week we will be putting on over 1000 miles for AZ bike week. Look forward to seeing everyone at the Hideaway friday! Chris Hines
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« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2010, 10:47:20 AM »

Well i got my mono tubes installed yesterday and drove home and then i road another 165 miles they are amazing after about ten miles they get warmed up and i cant believe how nice a ride i got i also have 21 inch heathens front an a 18 rear bike looks alot better and now i can take the stupid spacer off my kickstand! Cant wait till next week we will be putting on over 1000 miles for AZ bike week. Look forward to seeing everyone at the Hideaway friday! Chris Hines

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2010, 11:02:07 AM »

Hey there i purchased mine from ArrowHead HD in Peoria AZ they have them in stock, i also installed the new 940s for the rear what a difference the bike is now allot better to ride and got rid of the high speed wobble almost completely. You can call Brad in parts at 623-247-5542 hes a good guy very knowledgeable., tell  him i sent you. Chris Hines
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2010, 11:38:52 AM »

I just ordered a set from Phat Performance. About $250 delivered.  They are for the 2009 serg which does not have a lowered front end. Thus, I ordered the standard height which is about $40-50 less than the -1 model.  Now I need someone in Phoenix to install them.  Might try Arrowhead HD if they will install my part.
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« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2010, 11:59:58 AM »

I just ordered a set from Phat Performance. About $250 delivered.  They are for the 2009 serg which does not have a lowered front end. Thus, I ordered the standard height which is about $40-50 less than the -1 model.  Now I need someone in Phoenix to install them.  Might try Arrowhead HD if they will install my part.

Iroar, looking forward to your report as I also have an 09 SERG.  If you're attending the AZ bike week GTG breakfast on Friday, maybe we can chat.  Also would like your comments on the Suspension Technology shocks as I am about to dump my Progressives.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #74 on: April 08, 2010, 12:29:08 PM »

Iroar, looking forward to your report as I also have an 09 SERG.  If you're attending the AZ bike week GTG breakfast on Friday, maybe we can chat.  Also would like your comments on the Suspension Technology shocks as I am about to dump my Progressives.

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« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2010, 01:12:58 PM »

IROAR,
Sorry, the day is Saturday, not Friday.  Here are the details.  We are planning on meeting for breakfast, but will not be going on the ride.  Rather, we're going to spend the day enjoying some of the rally sites.

Also, here is the link:  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=46403.0


Following a review of some PM's, the plan is as follows:

 Saturday, April 17
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« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2010, 01:29:09 PM »

i'm on a roadtrip as we speak now on my 08tr and have logged some miles in east TN with the progressive cartridges and they perform great. :orange:

again this is one of the best upgrades for the dollars IMO.


ride on

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« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2010, 09:30:29 PM »

IROAR,, Please let us know how you like them after you get them tested out. I have the same set up and am thinking of ordering a set for mine too.

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« Reply #78 on: April 12, 2010, 11:45:56 PM »

IROAR,, Please let us know how you like them after you get them tested out. I have the same set up and am thinking of ordering a set for mine too.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #79 on: April 12, 2010, 11:55:29 PM »

I have had these on for over a month and love them.  With the combination of my Ohlins in the rear my SERK handles better then I can ride it.  There is no front dive at all.  For the price I dont think they can be beat.  Its nice to have the front end not act like a pogo stick any more...
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #80 on: April 12, 2010, 11:57:53 PM »

i'm on a roadtrip as we speak now on my 08tr and have logged some miles in east TN with the progressive cartridges and they perform great. :orange:

again this is one of the best upgrades for the dollars IMO.


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Can you give some details on "great". I'm looking at these for the 08 SERK.

I have had these on for over a month and love them.  With the combination of my Ohlins in the rear my SERK handles better then I can ride it.  There is no front dive at all.  For the price I dont think they can be beat.  Its nice to have the front end not act like a pogo stick any more...

Good to hear. Can you give any examples based on roads you use often before and after.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #81 on: April 13, 2010, 12:03:17 AM »

I have had these on for over a month and love them.  With the combination of my Ohlins in the rear my SERK handles better then I can ride it.  There is no front dive at all.  For the price I dont think they can be beat.  Its nice to have the front end not act like a pogo stick any more...

Good to hear. Can you give any examples based on roads you use often before and after.

JW
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Been riding mostly up in Wisconsin and Michigan.  Back home in chicago there is NO bottoming out and potholes are nasty but much better.  On the twisties I feel I have much more control and dont feel the rear wobble as I did before.  I am finding that I feel alot more comfortable pushing her harder in the corners esp if the road isnt perfect.  When I was on the Natchez Trace,  some of the sweepers scared the crap out of me because of the instability.  This year when I go back down I will feel much more confident.  Will I zip her around the dragon like a 'Busa?  Hell no,  but thats me.

I know you did your rears,  this is a great addition and a better product in concept then the Gold Valves... For the price,  why not.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #82 on: April 13, 2010, 12:09:22 AM »

I know you did your rears,  this is a great addition and a better product in concept then the Gold Valves... For the price,  why not.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #83 on: April 17, 2010, 10:29:16 AM »

Can you give some details on "great". I'm looking at these for the 08 SERK.


JW

they help in all aspects of handling. as said previously much less dive,  surer feel in cornering, and the shock absorption is in a category i compare to the traxxion cartridges. you won't regret the upgrade. i just got back from a roadtrip on my 08tr and what a difference they made.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2010, 11:05:37 AM »

Mine arrived today plan on installing them this week
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #85 on: May 02, 2010, 04:16:59 PM »

I've had the Monotubes on for about 1000 miles , and have had the opportunity to ride them solo and two in all conditions.

I had the touring link installed at the same time.  The difference is amazing, especially 2 up. Glass smooth and rock steady .
It makes riding the twisties much more enjoyable , I can hold a tighter line , and no more wallow.  I never realized how poor the stock bits were until I changed them out.

I was thinking about a new bike, with the change it is like a completely different and most pleasent new ride.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2010, 05:12:16 PM »

Finally got the Monotubes installed, have to get in some riding but initial impression is big improvement most of the front end dive on braking is eliminated. Riding 2 up last night it was stable and solid through the twisties. Feels very sure footed and more resistant to road imperfections.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #87 on: May 28, 2011, 01:50:13 AM »

Am i correct ?
You don`t have to do any fork-oil-change anymore with this Progressive Monotubes ?
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #88 on: May 28, 2011, 09:25:05 AM »

Semi-correct, the bottoming spring still gets a little (5oz) of fork fluid, but he primary dampener and spring are a sealed unit.  It would probably be a good idea to change the 5ozs from time to time but should have to be no where near as often as a normal fork oil change.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2011, 11:18:16 AM »

 :) :) :)

If you were already onside the fork replacing the 5oz wouldn't be a bad idea.  THe only reason it is there is to keep the inside of the area from rusting or corroding.

Great addition to the bike.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2011, 01:05:34 PM »

convinced , the monotubes will come in my fork . Ordered them in the morning , but not at the dealer , he has soooooo much to do, can`t listen to his words anymore , so i ordered at an independent harley-garage - a very good man , he also did my ape .  
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2011, 04:33:21 PM »

Regardless of what you put in the front end...as mentioned earlier, it's not the new parts that contaminate the fork oil, it's the stock HD parts that remain, particularly the bushing.  If I'm not mistaken, it is made of a realtively soft metal (brass?), and has a coating similar to Teflon, if it's not actually Teflon.  They wear quickly.  The coating wears off, contaminating the oil, in addition to the metal particles from the bushing itself.  Any bike with a traditional type of fork has springs in the fork...that's one of the things that control the compression of the front forks, the sag, etc.  Also, another factor...I hear a lot about folks thinking that doing work like this "raises" the bike, whether it's front fork work or rear shocks...it does, but it's not because the travel of the fork/shock has changed, it's because there is less sag in the suspension, and if the suspension is set up properly, there is a more appropriate level of sag (necessary for proper operation of the suspension) than with the stock crap.  Just take a stock bike off the kickstand and watch how much the front end sags with the weight actually on the fork springs...then you add a passenger, luggage, blah, blah, blah and the performance of the suspension is further compromised, i.e. less potential travel before bottoming out.  These bikes aren't race bikes, and don't need that kind of suspension performance, but they also don't have to ride/drive like a Buick 225 with bad shocks. ;)  It really sucks that HD can't come up with at least a mediocre suspension system for their top of the line touring bikes, instead of using the cheapest chit out there, and low bid at that.

Personally, I would recommend changing the fork oil at least at the recommended intervals, in addition to the bushing and any other parts that are subject to wear, like seals.

Also, depending on the material used in construction of the springs, the constant compression/rebound of the spring causes some of the metal to "flake" off over time which is another contaminate of the oil.  So, change the oil, IMO.

Not saying that people don't go well over the 20-25K mark without servicing the forks...but, have you ever smelled overused fork oil?  It stinks really bad.  The problem with degradation of things like fork oil over time is that it happens so gradually, people don't notice and think everything is hunky-dorey because they have lost their basis for comparison.  It's the same thing as when you upgrade the suspension components...you very quckly forget how bad the old stuff was until you get on another bike without the upgrades.  THEN the difference is huge.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #92 on: June 05, 2011, 05:49:36 PM »

I spent a bit of time speaking with TN at Ribfest and he has me convinced that these are a great improvement. I think I will have my dealer install these. I have the D&D's ordered and the Outlawz bars that Kenny Lee has (12") so will have them take care of the Mono Tube at the same time.....

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #93 on: June 05, 2011, 09:54:02 PM »

I think it might be a good idea to wait just a bit longer...
Reason being there have been several post where the new progressive cartriage system is make a substantial noise (popping) whether its lowered or in the stock height...
Progressive hasn't stepped up to the plate, they say they can't find anything wrong ,but if it needs replacing then its on your dime...
wait awhile longer and see what happens The R&D department rushed into this and didn't seem to do a lot of homework before introducing it to the public...
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #94 on: June 05, 2011, 10:17:43 PM »

I think it might be a good idea to wait just a bit longer...  WHY? I have three bikes with the monotubes in them and they handle great.
Reason being there have been several post several post?, , , several post where? where the new progressive cartriage system is make a substantial noise (popping) whether its lowered or in the stock height... I know of 7 bikes that have done this system, no popping with them.
Progressive hasn't stepped up to the plate, Progressive has ALWAYS given me great service. they say they can't find anything wrong This could be an installation problem. ,but if it needs replacing then its on your dime... My experience is they stand behind their product, They can't stand behind installation.
wait awhile longer and see what happens The R&D department rushed Rushed? How do you figure that? You work there? into this and didn't seem to do a lot of homework before introducing it to the public... Sorry your having issues but the fact your having an issue doesn't mean it's a Progressive Suspension problem.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #95 on: June 06, 2011, 08:56:33 AM »

I'm thinking this winter or spring for something to beef up the front and rear of the new SERG.

Sounds like a fairly simple install.

But first, I need to get back on the board track and finish it up.  No Craig, I have not restarted my work on the beast.  I thought I'd say that before you ask...  ;D

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #96 on: June 06, 2011, 09:51:45 AM »

 :-* :-* :-*

The monotubes are a great addition to the bike.  Handles better, brakes better, makes the bike feel planted to the road.

And substantially less expensive than the better Traxxion system.

No problems.  Put mine on the bike while it was brand new with 7 miles on it.


I wouldn't wait a second.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #97 on: June 06, 2011, 10:14:53 AM »

I've got 10,000 miles on my Mono Tubes,  I put them in along with the Touring Link , really smoothed the ride out and no more death wobble at speed.

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« Reply #98 on: June 06, 2011, 06:17:01 PM »

Thanks for the input guys. Went ahead with the order today. I will keep you posted. It will probably be at least 2 weeks from today.  :drink:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #99 on: June 06, 2011, 07:08:32 PM »

I am thinking of ordering a set as well. For you guys with the 2009 SERG which ones are you going with? I have heard different stories on whether or not ours are lowered already or standard
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #100 on: June 06, 2011, 07:53:15 PM »

I am thinking of ordering a set as well. For you guys with the 2009 SERG which ones are you going with? I have heard different stories on whether or not ours are lowered already or standard
Look at the bottom edge of the fork bells. If the bottom edge is at the top of your fender
then your bike is standard height. If the bottom edge is an inch down the fender then your bike
is lowered.

I know this because my bike came lowered and I put the standard height monotubes in it to raise it
to stock height. I took measurements at the bottom edge of the fork bells.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #101 on: June 06, 2011, 08:32:22 PM »

I put the stock height tubes in last spring. Put over 10k on them last year and not a problem. One of the best purchases I made.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2011, 10:04:05 PM »

I am thinking of ordering a set as well. For you guys with the 2009 SERG which ones are you going with? I have heard different stories on whether or not ours are lowered already or standard
Well I talked twice with progressive, and two mechanics at the local dealer and two forums.  Progressive always insisted SERG 2009 was stock height, one mechanic said stock one said inch lower.  Forums were not much help, split about 50 / 50.

I went with stock height mono tubes.  The bike front was 1/4 higher after the install.

bike had 25K on it when I had the install done.  I now have 32K on the bike, and its about 1/8 higher.

I would say the techs at progressive are correct, stock hight for a 2009 serg.

I like them so much, when I do the mods to my fatboy this winter it will get the monotubes.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #103 on: June 07, 2011, 02:11:23 AM »

So we go with the stock height monotubes . Thanks
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2011, 05:33:22 AM »

Any input on the mileage expectation on the monotubes before they need to be replaced.  I put a set on this winter and am pleased with the improvement.   Just wondering if anyone has worn out a set.
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« Reply #105 on: June 07, 2011, 07:15:17 AM »

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Lifetime warranty.  That is as long as you own the bike.

If they are as good as the progressives for trucks etc, the bike will wear out first.

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« Reply #106 on: June 07, 2011, 12:57:12 PM »

Thanks for the help and reply. I will order the stock ones myself. Now to figure out the best place to get them. Any suggestions?

Still need to do something with the rear as well.Decisions decisions.....


Well I talked twice with progressive, and two mechanics at the local dealer and two forums.  Progressive always insisted SERG 2009 was stock height, one mechanic said stock one said inch lower.  Forums were not much help, split about 50 / 50.

I went with stock height mono tubes.  The bike front was 1/4 higher after the install.

bike had 25K on it when I had the install done.  I now have 32K on the bike, and its about 1/8 higher.

I would say the techs at progressive are correct, stock hight for a 2009 serg.

I like them so much, when I do the mods to my fatboy this winter it will get the monotubes.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #107 on: June 07, 2011, 05:11:08 PM »

Thanks for the help and reply. I will order the stock ones myself. Now to figure out the best place to get them. Any suggestions?

Still need to do something with the rear as well.Decisions decisions.....



I have the following set ups in my different scoots

11 SESG - Progressive Monotubes and OE shocks - good set up, some bottoming out at times
02 SERK - Ricor front end and rear shocks - better set up, slightly less bottoming but does occur
08 SERK - Progressive Monotubes and WORKS rear shocks - my best set up

IMO, the Monotubes are better than the Ricor's but both do a good job with front end dive and stabilization of the bike in curves. The WORKS rear shocks are the best I've used.

Here's where I got my Monotubes at a good price  http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/Progressive_Suspension_Monotube_Fork_Cartridge_Kit_p/ps-monotubes.htm

Good luck

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #108 on: June 07, 2011, 09:17:11 PM »


Here's where I got my Monotubes at a good price  http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/Progressive_Suspension_Monotube_Fork_Cartridge_Kit_p/ps-monotubes.htm

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Same here - I have ordered several items from phatperformance - always a good price - very good communication.

So far they have been a 1st class company.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #109 on: June 07, 2011, 09:29:06 PM »

I have the following set ups in my different scoots

11 SESG - Progressive Monotubes and OE shocks - good set up, some bottoming out at times
02 SERK - Ricor front end and rear shocks - better set up, slightly less bottoming but does occur
08 SERK - Progressive Monotubes and WORKS rear shocks - my best set up

IMO, the Monotubes are better than the Ricor's but both do a good job with front end dive and stabilization of the bike in curves. The WORKS rear shocks are the best I've used.

Here's where I got my Monotubes at a good price  http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/Progressive_Suspension_Monotube_Fork_Cartridge_Kit_p/ps-monotubes.htm




Good luck

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Thanks for the link. I did send Tom at Works Shocks an email earlier today about the Works shocks but havent heard anything back yet. I also seen that Phat Performance has them also. I did do some reading on them and there are so many options I dont have any idea which way to go. Can you shed some light on this for me?

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #110 on: June 07, 2011, 09:49:25 PM »


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Thanks for the link. I did send Tom at Works Shocks an email earlier today about the Works shocks but havent heard anything back yet. I also seen that Phat Performance has them also. I did do some reading on them and there are so many options I dont have any idea which way to go. Can you shed some light on this for me?

Thanks
Mike

I went with the WORKS Street Trackers w/ the BARS (Billet Adjustable Rate Suspension) caps for easy adjustment depending on solo - solo loaded/two up - two up loaded. I called Tom which gets you right to him. He need all the necessary info on rider and passenger weight, inseam, type of riding, etc.

Based on my conversation with Tom, I went with the 13" version for more suspension travel with minimum height increase (around 1/2" / over time I think she back down to OEM spec)  After +20,000 miles, I still think they were a great mod. If I replace the SESG shocks, Tom will get another call. FWIW.

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« Reply #111 on: June 07, 2011, 10:00:56 PM »

Sounds good. I will wait to hear back from Tom.
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« Reply #112 on: June 08, 2011, 09:07:45 PM »

Thanks for the input guys. Went ahead with the order today. I will keep you posted. It will probably be at least 2 weeks from today.  :drink:

I have to renig...got to talking to a friend who's opinion I value very much. He mentioned the adjustment capabilities of the Traxion. If I change tires, air pressure, load range etc. I can re-adjust with Traxion, and not with the MonoTubes. I hesitate on the Monotubes because I installed Progressive springs (not Monotubes) and 440's on my 2010 Ultra and it always felt as though the bike wanted to "lay down" (not in a good way) in each corner. It was so bad my wife said to trade it right away. She felt very unsafe on it. With Traxion, as I understand it, I can re-adjust if it is too soft or too firm. ??  :nixweiss:
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #113 on: June 08, 2011, 09:42:46 PM »


 With Traxion, as I understand it, I can re-adjust if it is too soft or too firm. ??  :nixweiss:



The Traxxion Dynamics setup is adjustable Rob.  Very simply also.

Part of the kit is new fork caps.  The adjusters are right on top.  Little thumbwheel screws.  Just a little adjustment makes a noticeable difference also.  On an Electra Glide you'd have to pop the switch cap off to get directly at the adjusters.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #114 on: June 08, 2011, 09:54:06 PM »


The Traxxion Dynamics setup is adjustable Rob.  Very simply also.

Part of the kit is not fork caps.  The adjusters are right on top.  Little thumbwheel screws.  Just a little adjustment makes a noticeable difference also.  On an Electra Glide you'd have to pop the switch cap off to get directly at the adjusters.

Just to show a picture of what Don is speaking of.
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« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2011, 10:29:23 PM »

Thanks Don and Chip!
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« Reply #116 on: June 09, 2011, 08:34:22 AM »

i thought the monotube front end would be good for ya after you described your previous bitubo experience. what ya going with on the rear?

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #117 on: June 09, 2011, 11:07:32 AM »

Rob...a quarter turn on the Traxxion is about all it ever takes, if you ever have to fool with it at all.  Honestly, I never found the need to adjust them on my '06 SEUC, no matter what the load.  I fooled with them a bit on the Vrod just to see what difference it made, mostly based on ambient temps, and while there was some difference, it was not significant enough, IMO, to worry about.

The advantages of Traxxion's cartridges, again, IMO, are that they are made in house to very, very tight tolerances.  Also, they do not go with a "one size fits all" approach to spring selection, but select a spring based on the information you provide about how you ride, how much you and your passenger weigh, and what kind of loads you carry on the bike.  It's still a compromise, but at least one based on the best overall solution.  And they encapsulate as much of the spring as possible to keep it from rubbing on the inside of the forks (with some kind of plastic/nylon tube), keeping contamination of the fork oil down as much as possible.  Bottom line is that there is no better front end suspension.  If possible, you should make a road trip up to Hot'Lanta to Traxxion's shop to get the work done...they will show you how they manufacture the cartridge, and you will be impressed with how they do things.  Good, good people work there.
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« Reply #118 on: June 09, 2011, 12:42:41 PM »

TC i concur with you on the whole traxxion product. i have it on my FLTRSE3, ak-20-front, bitubos-rear.  on my 08tr i have progressive suspension, monotubes on the front with  440hd on rear. $1400+ price difference.




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« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2011, 12:51:17 PM »

 :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:

As my good friend and riding buddies explains the difference between the stock HD front suspension, the Progressives and the Traxxion.  He logs over 35,000 per year on a new bike or two every year.  From CVO ultra's to his present CVO Road Glide, he has had them all.  His rating on a scale of 1 to 10 are interesting:

1.  Stock HD                          2 at best

2. Monotubes                         6.5 to 7.0 cost about $600 installed by a dealer

3. Traxxion                            9 to 9.5    cost over well over $1350 installed not including the trip to Traxxion dealer.

Overall, his opinion is if you ride very hard into corners, front brake etc the Traxxions are without a doubt the best.  That said the cost and the maintenance on an ongoing basis of the Traxxion is expensive.  Thus, considering the Progressives do a very good job, improve the handling a substantial amount, no maintenance required and any dealer should be able to install them in three hours (or less as mine did) I went with the Progressives at his recommendation.  I only rode his Glide for a short ride (less than 20 miles) and the Traxxion is very good.  I have ridden the Progressives over 5,000 miles on my Glide and the difference from stock is enormous.  Less brake dive, stable in the curves, handles bumps etc great.

Of course, he wants and rides the best which is the Traxxion.

He also has a Ducati and other cool bikes.

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« Reply #120 on: June 09, 2011, 09:42:47 PM »

Okay. Great discussion!! Here is how I (we) ride:

I weigh anywhere from 190-200 depending on the amount of ribs and beer I have consumed (the previous day...don't drink and ride!) My wife 120 max if she gains another 5 pounds. I ride 2 up most of the time (85%+). When we are doing day rides we ride with the average gear most do. When we travel for a long weekend somewhere we use a trunk bag, a bag on the luggage rack and the saddlebags stuffed with tools, chaps, raingear, sunscreen, etc.... as I am sure most do. I would say an average of 30 pounds publicly, but more like 40 realistically (including all the aforementioned bag compartments).

We live in Florida but love to take the occasional trip to NC, North GA and of course Kentucky for ribfest. The main complaint my wife had about the suspension I had on my last ultra was that it felt like it wanted to "lay down" in the corners as well as slow speed turns (turning into a restaurant from the main highway, parking lot etc). I had 440's on the rear (stock length) and a progressive spring insert in the front which cost about $100 for the springs. Don't know what they were called.

I do not ride overly aggressive most of the time, but don't mind being able to do so. I want a great handling suspension but not so stiff I feel like I am on a sport bike. I want to be able to take a corner aggressively but still have the smoothest, softest ride possible. I want to not have to tap my wife on the leg each time we are approaching an overpass, bridge or RR crossing so that she can lift her butt off of the seat so it doesn't jar her spine.

Yes, If I am paying $600-$1350 for any suspension, this is what I want.

Which would be the best choice for our riding style?
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #121 on: June 10, 2011, 12:24:43 AM »

Yes, If I am paying $600-$1350 for any suspension, this is what I want.

Which would be the best choice for our riding style?

Best choice would probably be the Traxxion Dynamics up front / Bitubos or Ohlins in the rear. This is based on limited riding others scooters so equipped. However, I don't think you can get it done for the amount of money you noted. To me "best" would be necessary if I made my living riding, best gear available to get the job done.

Really damn good is the solution I ended up with. I ride mostly solo. Weigh 230's, pack rain gear and related items you listed. I ride somewhat aggressive at times. I have been more than satisfied with the Monotube front end and the Works BARS on the rear. The Works adjust very easily for the load and conditions you'll face. When I do ride two up, my lady says she really likes these shocks over the Ricors on my 02 SERK or the OE shocks on the 11 SESG. No bottoming out issues to date. FWIW.

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« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2011, 07:08:57 AM »

... However, I don't think you can get it done for the amount of money you noted....


JW

I agree for front and rear. I was referring to just the fronts at the time but very good point. Rears will need to be done as well.
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« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2011, 07:14:01 AM »

i thought the monotube front end would be good for ya after you described your previous bitubo experience. what ya going with on the rear?

traxxion ak-20 is a fine set-up. :2vrolijk_21:




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I am getting the exhaust and bars changed here shortly (I hope...D&D is on back order) and I want to get some riding time in with the new bars before the change anyway.
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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #124 on: June 10, 2011, 10:57:38 AM »



Rob

Let me tell you what you need to do.

 ;)

Buy the traxxion front end work, buy the BiTubo's for the rear.
The above is the best of the best.
Anything less and you will always be second guessing yourself as to whether you bought the best.
Do that upfront and ride up to Maggie Valley in September so all of us can see you and Annette again.
Any other questions?



Oh, and bring Miker and Lisa with you.

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Re: Anyone have the new 2010 Progressive Monotube Cart System?
« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2011, 11:50:25 AM »

What Chip said... :2vrolijk_21:

The Traxxion will give you exactly what you're looking for.  The Bitubo shocks may take a little adjusting until you get them right.  If I didn't have to have the Legend Air for the rear because of my height, Bitubos would be on my bike right now.  The Legend Shocks are very good, especially when loaded down with two people and gear...one up and they are just a tad harsh.  To give you some idea:  My '06 SEUC had exactly what I've got on the SERGU now...Traxxion front, Legend rear, and we put at least 18K on the bike with that setup.  I also had an '06 SEVROD (Ken has it now) with Traxxion front and Bitubo rear.  Of course we could not "tour" on the Vrod, but for our around town and rides under 200 miles in a day, we would often take the Vrod.  My BSR remarked several times that the Vrod actually rode better than the SEUC, and I would have to agree.  The difference was the Bitubo shocks in the rear. The SEUC was fine with us and 40lbs of crap in the bags/trunk, but again, I needed to get my feet firmly planted on the ground when moving that bike around, so went with the Legends to do so.  I do not believe in permanently lowering a bike's suspension, especially a HD, which doesn't have much travel to begin with.

If you got to Woodstock, GA by 9:00AM one morning, you could be in CHL by 3:00 that afternoon.  They've already done one SERGU (mine), so they've got some practice  ;)

One other thing:  if you want the Bitubos, I would recommend talking to Dan and getting them ordered now...the Bitubo factory workers all go on Holiday the month of August.

If you plan on keeping this bike for a good while, you will find that this suspension upgrade is one of the best things you've done to the bike, and was money well spent.
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« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2011, 12:36:43 PM »


Rob

Let me tell you what you need to do.

 ;)

Buy the traxxion front end work, buy the BiTubo's for the rear.
The above is the best of the best.
Anything less and you will always be second guessing yourself as to whether you bought the best.

You know me quite well my friend.  :huepfenlol2:  :drink:

Do that upfront and ride up to Maggie Valley in September so all of us can see you and Annette again.

 :2vrolijk_21:



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« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2011, 12:41:51 PM »

.... If I didn't have to have the Legend Air for the rear because of my height, Bitubos would be on my bike right now....

... but again, I needed to get my feet firmly planted on the ground when moving that bike around...


I found these for you so you can go ahead with the Bitubos. Let me know if you need the website link for purchase....



If you got to Woodstock, GA by 9:00AM one morning, you could be in CHL by 3:00 that afternoon.  They've already done one SERGU (mine), so they've got some practice  ;)

One other thing:  if you want the Bitubos, I would recommend talking to Dan and getting them ordered now...the Bitubo factory workers all go on Holiday the month of August.

If you plan on keeping this bike for a good while, you will find that this suspension upgrade is one of the best things you've done to the bike, and was money well spent.

Thanks for the heads up. Kenny Lee and I are contemplating a September or October ride to Traxxion -----> CHL, so good to know on the August thing.
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« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2011, 01:43:05 PM »

Those shoes would do the trick  ;)  The only thing keeping me from ordering a pair is that I don't heel shift, and I don't think I could get the toe of that shoe under the shifter peg... ::)

So, which one of you two are going to ride bitch on the Honda Goldwing shop bike they loan you to go get lunch on?  I want pictures...
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« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2011, 05:02:59 PM »

Those shoes would do the trick  ;)  The only thing keeping me from ordering a pair is that I don't heel shift, and I don't think I could get the toe of that shoe under the shifter peg... ::)

So, which one of you two are going to ride bitch on the Honda Goldwing shop bike they loan you to go get lunch on?  I want pictures...

I'm sure there is something withing riding distance. If not, Annette and I will bring Ken and Cheri something back.  :P
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« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2011, 05:42:44 PM »

 :orange: :orange: :orange:

One point to considr, the progressives monoutbes and the 940's allow the bike to be lowered alomst 2" with no negative affect on the ride.

The 940's wok well as does the mononutubes.

that said, the Mercedes of suspensions is the Traxxion and Bitubos.

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« Reply #132 on: July 23, 2011, 02:24:18 AM »

Now after a few rides with the Prog. Monotubes i would say :

Good damping and cornering but no great  improvement to stock fork damping .

 I should have gone with the traxxion dynamics front end , maybe i will replace them in some time . Hmmm , thinking about how to get the traxxion dynamic front end to germany , do we have a special dealer here for them ?
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« Reply #133 on: July 23, 2011, 08:26:46 AM »

Now after a few rides with the Prog. Monotubes i would say :

Good damping and cornering but no great  improvement to stock fork damping .

 I should have gone with the traxxion dynamics front end , maybe i will replace them in some time . Hmmm , thinking about how to get the traxxion dynamic front end to germany , do we have a special dealer here for them ?

what do you have for rear shocks?



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« Reply #134 on: July 23, 2011, 09:12:17 AM »

 :confused5: :confused5: :confused5:

On my bike, the monotubes made a huge difference, huge on damping.  A dramatic improvement over stock.  So much so that a couple of my buddies rode the bike for a few hundred miles and are now installing the shocks themselves.  I installed them on the bike with only 300 miles on the bike.

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« Reply #135 on: July 23, 2011, 12:18:01 PM »

Rear shocks are the HD hyd shocks (first in 2010 SESG ), they do a good job .
My problem is the wobble when more than 100 mph and the street makes a light curve and has a bumb then the wobble is not controlable anymore , the headbearing is correct , checked and improved it twice by the dealer .
Cornering upto 90mph is fun and save and the bike makes everything i want to .
Yes i know it is a cruiser-bike  ::) ::) ::) ::)
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