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[2soaper]

Yes, my 05' CVO fatboy had a hydraulic clutch which was nice and smooth the 2015 certainly doesn't work that way.  Slowly releasing the clutch on the 2015 and then it catches with jolt.

[tazmun]

Yes, my 05' CVO fatboy had a hydraulic clutch which was nice and smooth the 2015 certainly doesn't work that way.  Slowly releasing the clutch on the 2015 and then it catches with jolt.

Same with my 06, always worked smooth. My 19 does jerk on occasion.
I'll lay money the earlier ones were not made in China!!!!

[YELLOWBIRD]

  It seems like when the MoCo decided to add hydraulic clutch to all standard models (ones that got them) and CVO models is when the problems started 

  and folks started to complain about them.

  Those who own older CVO models myself included, seem to really like their hydraulic clutch.


   



     YB

[Mr D]

  It seems like when the MoCo decided to add hydraulic clutch to all standard models (ones that got them) and CVO models is when the problems started 

  and folks started to complain about them.

  Those who own older CVO models myself included, seem to really like their hydraulic clutch.


   



     YB

Yep, Loved my hydraulic clutch on my '05 SEEG

Not so much on my later year CVO's

[Pan1]

It is sad that a major Corp like HD can not engineer a smoother easy to pull hydraulic clutch. Seems like all the car companies figured it out as well as competitors bikes. If they are going back to cable it probably because the aging demographics of buyers are complaining about the effort it takes to pull lever. My 2015 RG would fatigue my hand in stop and go traffic and I disliked the engagement point. My 210 and 2008 CVO's were much better but hey messing up something that works is what HD does. Just look at their sales and stock price. Look at the diminished posts on this board.

[AirCav101]

Engineers of today.... are TRAINED...
They are not like the Duesenberg Brothers...

By and large products of today are designed by marketing and bean counting departments!
Engineers just make it work or look appropriate or make it last through a warranty just better than a competitor...
Ask me how I know?
Ha ha I used to design pool heaters a great example....

Grandpa designed a pool heater that lasted 70 years  if you knew what you were doing.... Think toothbrush / Metallica drummer....
The current "same company" new name (french) last 5 years.... SAME chit!
RULES HAVE CHANGED... IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY STUFF CANNOT BE BUILT TO LAST. Whats better a $2000 dollar heater that is 82% efficient that lasts 30 + years.... Or a $3600 heater supposedly 84% efficient (cheated) that lasts 5 years MAX!

College is training these kids to sell chit!

[acevtwin]

2021's on the floor in Michigan dealers. No CVO's yet though.

[ParadigmGuy]

It is sad that a major Corp like HD can not engineer a smoother easy to pull hydraulic clutch. Seems like all the car companies figured it out as well as competitors bikes. If they are going back to cable it probably because the aging demographics of buyers are complaining about the effort it takes to pull lever. My 2015 RG would fatigue my hand in stop and go traffic and I disliked the engagement point. My 210 and 2008 CVO's were much better but hey messing up something that works is what HD does. Just look at their sales and stock price. Look at the diminished posts on this board.

It's stock price? It's approaching it's all time high from last year and is nearly three times it's 52 week low from March. The stock is doing just fine and it will continue to improve from here.

The diminished posts are here are not an indicator of interest in HD bikes.

[iski]

It's stock price? It's approaching it's all time high from last year and is nearly three times it's 52 week low from March. The stock is doing just fine and it will continue to improve from here.

The diminished posts are here are not an indicator of interest in HD bikes.

Depends on your time frame.

HOG stocked peaked (all time high) @ $73 in 2014.  It has lagged behind the market - by a lot.  The stock is at $38 today. 
S & P was 1800 in early 2014 & is 3800 today. 

[ParadigmGuy]

Depends on your time frame.

HOG stocked peaked (all time high) @ $73 in 2014.  It has lagged behind the market - by a lot.  The stock is at $38 today. 
S & P was 1800 in early 2014 & is 3800 today.

You're right, it does depend on time frame. I read his post as implying that it hadn't done well recently.

Also, the ATH was $75.50 on November 22, 2006, not $73 in 2014.

[iski]

You're right, it does depend on time frame. I read his post as implying that it hadn't done well recently.

Also, the ATH was $75.50 on November 22, 2006, not $73 in 2014.

ATH 14 years ago.  Says a lot about HD and it's market value.  I owned HOG stock a couple of times.  Late 1990s and early 2000s. Did ok. Would not buy it now though, but do hope the company survives

[Billy]

Since most dealers now have the new touring bikes. The only change is a clutch cable.   So what is the big announcement going to be ?

[BigLew55]

I think I saw in some of the videos of the FLHTK, upgraded speaker grills, which suggest upgraded speakers.  Honda bumped the audio output on Gold Wings, so this might be an answer to that.

It wasn't on all.  I only saw it on the FLHTK, and maybe FLTRK.

[SHRADER]

2021 standard models are being shipped, delivered, uncrated, and posted everywhere on YouTube with the announcement scheduled for 1-19-21. Anyone else notice that in all the touring models that have been posted to this point there are standard models and limited models only, no Specials.

Surely HD would not kill all three of the Special models, Street Glide Special, Road King Special and Road Glide Special as these are there best selling bikes. Does this tell us that they will have a larger engine? My guess is that they will and they will be at least a 119. I will also go out on a limb and say there will be a 119 or whatever option on the Limited models too.

CVO bikes, if they make them, will be a 122 to 131.

[Mr D]

2021 standard models are being shipped, delivered, uncrated, and posted everywhere on YouTube with the announcement scheduled for 1-19-21. Anyone else notice that in all the touring models that have been posted to this point there are standard models and limited models only, no Specials.

Surely HD would not kill all three of the Special models, Street Glide Special, Road King Special and Road Glide Special as these are there best selling bikes. Does this tell us that they will have a larger engine? My guess is that they will and they will be at least a 119. I will also go out on a limb and say there will be a 119 or whatever option on the Limited models too.

CVO bikes, if they make them, will be a 122 to 131.

Can’t see the MoCo not making a ‘21 CVO Model (based on margin 💰)
‘20 CVO factory displacement is 117 not 122

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