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CVO Technical => Electronic Toys and Gadgets => Topic started by: amigo Jorge on January 23, 2008, 09:54:01 AM
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I am planning to purchase another GPS for my bike. I would like to update my Streetpilot. Searching in the Internet I found this company:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=1&Lid=4
Any of you guys have some kind of feedback about this product. It looks good.............
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Some specs about TomTom Rider 2nd Edition:
TomTom RIDER 2nd edition - Functionalities
DEVELOPED BY BIKERS FOR BIKERS
Biker-friendly touchscreen: designed to be easy to use, even when wearing gloves
Waterproof and rugged: like any true biker, RIDER can handle the toughest weather
Easy to mount: comes with robust universal RAM mounting hardware that fits almost any bike
High quality in-helmet voice instructions: from Cardo scala-rider® wireless Bluetooth® headset.
...BUT ALSO WORKS IN YOUR CAR!
Adapts instantly to car use: just fit the RIDER car mounting kit with speaker on the windscreen of the car, switch on and you’re away.
USER-FRIENDLY
No nonsense: just plug it in, switch it on & RIDE
Crystal clear: realistic and intuitive visual instructions, smooth-scrolling map display, and a choice between 3D bird's-eye view and traditional 2D map-format graphics
Fast destination selection: just 7 clicks and you’re on your way (that’s less than half as many clicks as any other bike navigator!)
Intuitive interface: TomTom's award-winning software for the very best navigation experience
BEST BIKING EXPERIENCE
Complete maps of the US and Canada on SD card: for worry-free door-to-door navigation
Route choice: plan your route to suit your needs - quickest, shortest, by required arrival time, avoiding toll roads and motorways, and more
Itinerary planning: at home on your PC or overnight on the road on the RIDER itself. Program the schedule of places you're visiting and set up your entire tour before even pulling on a glove
Millions of Points of Interest: from gas stations to restaurants and LOTS more. Not so much A to B but A to Z as well.
SAFE & SECURE
On-bike drive mode: featuring just 4 large icons and essential functionalities
Secure motorcycle dock: your RIDER attaches with an audible ‘click’, so you know it’s securely in place
Tested by TÜV: who is TÜV? They test manufacturer's products for safety, quality and durability to a level far beyond Europe’s normal CE standard. Want to know more?
Check the TÜV website
Hands-free call kit: RIDER doubles as a hands-free call kit, with Bluetooth® technology so you can take calls via your touchscreen as you ride. For safety reasons, outgoing calls are blocked while the bike is moving. But when you accept an incoming call, it's automatically routed to your earpiece/pad. And to make a call, just pull over, tap the screen and talk. With your helmet and gloves still on!
SMART SERVICES & EXTRAS
TomTom HOME: unique software to help you plan and schedule journeys on your PC, manage the content of your RIDER, get map updates & software upgrades and much more
Free Buddies service: locate, invite and add friends to your RIDER. Check who's in the area when you're touring or see where friends are right now
Access to TomTom online services: TomTom RIDER comes ready for a wide range of online services and downloads, including:
Real-time weather reports*: need the waterproofs? Get a real-time overview of the weather before setting off, including 5-day forecasts for all the places you're going to be.
Voices: download funny and famous voices for a bit of variety and fun on the road.
POI's: Thousands more POI's to download.
And much, much more.
* Real-time services require a compatible Bluetooth® phone and subscription with full internet access via your mobile phone ('GPRS' subscription). All other services can be downloaded via your computer using TomTom HOME and are also accessible on the road via your mobile phone (same requirements as stated above).
Show full feature list
Technical Information
Integrated GPS receiver with 20 Channel all-in-view tracking
CPU: 380 MHz
32 MB RAM
3.5 inch, 320 x 240 TFT color LCD touchscreen
4.46 in x 3.79 in x 2.08 in, 11 ounces
Internal rechargeable Li-Ion giving approx. 5 hours
Operating temperature: 14 to 130°F
Waterproof (IPX7) - protects against any wet-weather conditions
Bluetooth® headset battery - talk time: 7 hours
Bluetooth® headset battery - standby:
1 week
Memory card (SD card) with software and maps
USB port and USB cable 2.0 for PC connection
Alternative power source: 12V motorbike battery
High quality Cardo scala-rider® wireless Bluetooth® headset for in-helmet spoken instructions
RAM Mounting kit to fit nearly all bikes
Supports leading Bluetooth®-enabled helmets
TomTom RIDER 2nd edition - In the box
1. TomTom RIDER 2nd edition device
2. Cardo scala-rider® wireless Bluetooth® headset
for wireless spoken instructions and hands-free calling
3. RAM mounting hardware
to fit most bikes
4. Pre-installed memory card (SD card)
containing map data
5. Product code card
for registration and to ensure you get your yearly TomTom updates
6. TomTom HOME CD
to plan your tours via your computer
7. USB cable
8. Home charger
that charges at home or abroad, thanks to the international adaptors provided
9. Battery cable
for on-the-road instant charging
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Jorge,
The Tom-Tom was my second choice - went with Zumo 550. Very likely that was in part due to my familiarity with Garmin GPS on my boat & others through the years. No MP3 on the TT (unless I missed it). The Bluetooth is use in the cars/truck but not on the bike since its my last place in the world (almost) with no cell phone to be answered.
The main drawback to the Garmin is the maping software for the PC. It works, but it's clunky. Not sure about the TT software. Looks to be a good unit.
Remember seeing a comp[arison on these 2 somewhere. I'll look but bet d00d has it ready to post. :2vrolijk_21:
Mike
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Jorge,
The Tom-Tom was my second choice - went with Zumo 550. Very likely that was in part due to my familiarity with Garmin GPS on my boat & others through the years. No MP3 on the TT (unless I missed it). The Bluetooth is use in the cars/truck but not on the bike since its my last place in the world (almost) with no cell phone to be answered.
The main drawback to the Garmin is the maping software for the PC. It works, but it's clunky. Not sure about the TT software. Looks to be a good unit.
Remember seeing a comp[arison on these 2 somewhere. I'll look but bet d00d has it ready to post. :2vrolijk_21:
Mike
Unfortunately I don't have any information on the Tom Tom. I went with Garmin on recommendations from those here that had used Garmin products already. Only comparison I did was between the Zumo units and the StreetPilot.
Did find these three threads where others had inquired about the Tom Tom...
Tom Tom (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=9273.0)
TOMTOM RIDER2 (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=12634.0)
tomtom GPS (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=4014.0)
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Some specs about TomTom Rider 2nd Edition:
TomTom RIDER 2nd edition - Functionalities
DEVELOPED BY BIKERS FOR BIKERS
Biker-friendly touchscreen: designed to be easy to use, even when wearing gloves
Waterproof and rugged: like any true biker, RIDER can handle the toughest weather
Easy to mount: comes with robust universal RAM mounting hardware that fits almost any bike
High quality in-helmet voice instructions: from Cardo scala-rider® wireless Bluetooth® headset.
...BUT ALSO WORKS IN YOUR CAR!
Adapts instantly to car use: just fit the RIDER car mounting kit with speaker on the windscreen of the car, switch on and you’re away.
USER-FRIENDLY
No nonsense: just plug it in, switch it on & RIDE
Crystal clear: realistic and intuitive visual instructions, smooth-scrolling map display, and a choice between 3D bird's-eye view and traditional 2D map-format graphics
Fast destination selection: just 7 clicks and you’re on your way (that’s less than half as many clicks as any other bike navigator!)
Intuitive interface: TomTom's award-winning software for the very best navigation experience
BEST BIKING EXPERIENCE
Complete maps of the US and Canada on SD card: for worry-free door-to-door navigation
Route choice: plan your route to suit your needs - quickest, shortest, by required arrival time, avoiding toll roads and motorways, and more
Itinerary planning: at home on your PC or overnight on the road on the RIDER itself. Program the schedule of places you're visiting and set up your entire tour before even pulling on a glove
Millions of Points of Interest: from gas stations to restaurants and LOTS more. Not so much A to B but A to Z as well.
SAFE & SECURE
On-bike drive mode: featuring just 4 large icons and essential functionalities
Secure motorcycle dock: your RIDER attaches with an audible ‘click’, so you know it’s securely in place
Tested by TÜV: who is TÜV? They test manufacturer's products for safety, quality and durability to a level far beyond Europe’s normal CE standard. Want to know more?
Check the TÜV website
Hands-free call kit: RIDER doubles as a hands-free call kit, with Bluetooth® technology so you can take calls via your touchscreen as you ride. For safety reasons, outgoing calls are blocked while the bike is moving. But when you accept an incoming call, it's automatically routed to your earpiece/pad. And to make a call, just pull over, tap the screen and talk. With your helmet and gloves still on!
SMART SERVICES & EXTRAS
TomTom HOME: unique software to help you plan and schedule journeys on your PC, manage the content of your RIDER, get map updates & software upgrades and much more
Free Buddies service: locate, invite and add friends to your RIDER. Check who's in the area when you're touring or see where friends are right now
Access to TomTom online services: TomTom RIDER comes ready for a wide range of online services and downloads, including:
Real-time weather reports*: need the waterproofs? Get a real-time overview of the weather before setting off, including 5-day forecasts for all the places you're going to be.
Voices: download funny and famous voices for a bit of variety and fun on the road.
POI's: Thousands more POI's to download.
And much, much more.
* Real-time services require a compatible Bluetooth® phone and subscription with full internet access via your mobile phone ('GPRS' subscription). All other services can be downloaded via your computer using TomTom HOME and are also accessible on the road via your mobile phone (same requirements as stated above).
Show full feature list
Technical Information
Integrated GPS receiver with 20 Channel all-in-view tracking
CPU: 380 MHz
32 MB RAM
3.5 inch, 320 x 240 TFT color LCD touchscreen
4.46 in x 3.79 in x 2.08 in, 11 ounces
Internal rechargeable Li-Ion giving approx. 5 hours
Operating temperature: 14 to 130°F
Waterproof (IPX7) - protects against any wet-weather conditions
Bluetooth® headset battery - talk time: 7 hours
Bluetooth® headset battery - standby:
1 week
Memory card (SD card) with software and maps
USB port and USB cable 2.0 for PC connection
Alternative power source: 12V motorbike battery
High quality Cardo scala-rider® wireless Bluetooth® headset for in-helmet spoken instructions
RAM Mounting kit to fit nearly all bikes
Supports leading Bluetooth®-enabled helmets
TomTom RIDER 2nd edition - In the box
1. TomTom RIDER 2nd edition device
2. Cardo scala-rider® wireless Bluetooth® headset
for wireless spoken instructions and hands-free calling
3. RAM mounting hardware
to fit most bikes
4. Pre-installed memory card (SD card)
containing map data
5. Product code card
for registration and to ensure you get your yearly TomTom updates
6. TomTom HOME CD
to plan your tours via your computer
7. USB cable
8. Home charger
that charges at home or abroad, thanks to the international adaptors provided
9. Battery cable
for on-the-road instant charging
The RealTime Weather reports is of particular interest. If you could use your cell phone internet connectivity that some of us already have, it would allow real time weather information at no additional cost for the XM service required by the ZUMO.
Bob
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Jorge,
The Tom-Tom was my second choice - went with Zumo 550. Very likely that was in part due to my familiarity with Garmin GPS on my boat & others through the years. No MP3 on the TT (unless I missed it). The Bluetooth is use in the cars/truck but not on the bike since its my last place in the world (almost) with no cell phone to be answered.
The main drawback to the Garmin is the maping software for the PC. It works, but it's clunky. Not sure about the TT software. Looks to be a good unit.
Remember seeing a comp[arison on these 2 somewhere. I'll look but bet d00d has it ready to post. :2vrolijk_21:
Mike
We think the same in both issues.............. :)
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This was the comparison I found - the older rider model evidently to the 550:
http://www.gpsgenie.com/Comparison-Car-GPS-Motorcycle-Navigation-System-0-0.htm (http://www.gpsgenie.com/Comparison-Car-GPS-Motorcycle-Navigation-System-0-0.htm)
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We think the same.............. :)
Scary thought mi amigo. :2vrolijk_21:
The Bluetooth is handy in the car - offers me hands free since my car doesn't have it built in (wife's car has it in the radio).
Cell phone rings all the time & when I ride, I am not in the mood for that interruption. I resisted pagers (never had one) & used cell phones sparingly at first but not now.
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This was the comparison I found - the older rider model evidently to the 550:
http://www.gpsgenie.com/Comparison-Car-GPS-Motorcycle-Navigation-System-0-0.htm (http://www.gpsgenie.com/Comparison-Car-GPS-Motorcycle-Navigation-System-0-0.htm)
Thanks mi amigo Mike for your valuable info. It looks like the Rider 2nd Edition has some features that the first didn't. Another pro: it comes with the SD card included!!
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Scary thought mi amigo. :2vrolijk_21:
The Bluetooth is handy in the car - offers me hands free since my car doesn't have it built in (wife's car has it in the radio).
Cell phone rings all the time & when I ride, I am not in the mood for that interruption. I resisted pagers (never had one) & used cell phones sparingly at first but not now.
RIDE to LIVE and not RIDE to TALK :huepfenlol2:
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Scary thought mi amigo. :2vrolijk_21:
The Bluetooth is handy in the car - offers me hands free since my car doesn't have it built in (wife's car has it in the radio).
Cell phone rings all the time & when I ride, I am not in the mood for that interruption. I resisted pagers (never had one) & used cell phones sparingly at first but not now.
I don't have ability to talk Bluetooth on my bike, but I have had my phone paired to my Zumo. This will give me the ability to know if I've had a call (hint... from wife), and if I want to stop and call back asap. :nervous:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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The RealTime Weather reports is of particular interest. If you could use your cell phone internet connectivity that some of us already have, it would allow real time weather information at no additional cost for the XM service required by the ZUMO.
Bob
Bob,
The ZUMO do not allow for realtime weather radar. Nor does the Tom Tom, from what I have read, other than what you can already see on your cell phone. The only superimposed Radar is available on the Garmin 478 with an additional monthly fee.
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Thanks mi amigo Mike for your valuable info. It looks like the Rider 2nd Edition has some features that the first didn't. Another pro: it comes with the SD card included!!
RIDE to LIVE and not RIDE to TALK huepfenlol2
I had some Sd cards already - I'm up to 4 now & counting. Lots of tunes to listen to. At first I rode without but now I like to listen & ride.
Like your quote above.
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I don't have ability to talk Bluetooth on my bike, but I have had my phone paired to my Zumo. This will give me the ability to know if I've had a call (hint... from wife), and if I want to stop and call back asap. :nervous:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Had not considered pairing for your reason - asap. She knows I don't check the cell as much when riding, so not sure I want her to know that's an option. :huepfenlol2:
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I don't have ability to talk Bluetooth on my bike, but I have had my phone paired to my Zumo. This will give me the ability to know if I've had a call (hint... from wife), and if I want to stop and call back asap. :nervous:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
So don't say from wife sino from BOSS :huepfenjump3:
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Bob,
The ZUMO do not allow for realtime weather radar. Nor does the Tom Tom, from what I have read, other than what you can already see on your cell phone. The only superimposed Radar is available on the Garmin 478 with an additional monthly fee.
Mi amigo AJ...nice hearing from you.....I am a little bit ignorant about technology....could you please explain to me this? Thanks bro:
Real-time weather reports*: need the waterproofs? Get a real-time overview of the weather before setting off, including 5-day forecasts for all the places you're going to be.
* Real-time services require a compatible Bluetooth® phone and subscription with full internet access via your mobile phone ('GPRS' subscription). All other services can be downloaded via your computer using TomTom HOME and are also accessible on the road via your mobile phone (same requirements as stated above).
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Had not considered pairing for your reason - asap. She knows I don't check the cell as much when riding, so not sure I want her to know that's an option. :huepfenlol2:
Knowing how much you like cold refreshments I could be convinced to not mention this to her.... :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink:
Twolane did mention something about working for beer maybe he should have included "keep quiet" for beer too. ;) :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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So don't say from wife sino from BOSS :huepfenjump3:
Exactly. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Bob,
The ZUMO do not allow for realtime weather radar. Nor does the Tom Tom, from what I have read, other than what you can already see on your cell phone. The only superimposed Radar is available on the Garmin 478 with an additional monthly fee.
You're right AJ, I was thinking of the XM Traffic stuff which wouldn't be on the TomTom either.
Bob
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Knowing how much you like cold refreshments I could be convinced to not mention this to her.... :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink:
Twolane did mention something about working for beer maybe he should have included "keep quiet" for beer too. ;) :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
I'm still in shock that I had a Zumo link you didn't post above so bear with me...... :o
I owe you that many beers & more, Bro! :2vrolijk_21: :drink:
She doesn't read here even though I told her about it & all (even linked) so as long as you & 4,000 other members keep quiet, my secret is safe. ;D
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Mi amigo AJ...nice hearing from you.....I am a little bit ignorant about technology....could you please explain to me this? Thanks bro:
Real-time weather reports*: need the waterproofs? Get a real-time overview of the weather before setting off, including 5-day forecasts for all the places you're going to be.
* Real-time services require a compatible Bluetooth® phone and subscription with full internet access via your mobile phone ('GPRS' subscription). All other services can be downloaded via your computer using TomTom HOME and are also accessible on the road via your mobile phone (same requirements as stated above).
Como esta mi amigo?
What this is saying is that you will only see on the GPS what you can already see on your cell phone. If your cell phone has a LCD display in which you can view text you will be able to read (in words) what the weather is. It depends on how much information you want. I wanted to actually "see" the weather maps on the GPS screen. For this you need to have an external XM weather antenna to receive that data. If all you want to do is "hear" the weather forcast you could just use the NOAA weather radio staions. If you want to read the weather forcast you can link it to your cell phone. If you want to "see" the weather on the screen you'll need the XM weather beacon attached to a unit.
maybe d00d can post a picture of the 478 with the weather screen to explain what I'm talking about.
AJ
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If you read the TomTom website it states:
"TomTom Weather gives you current weather or a detailed 5-day forecast (TomTom application version 6.0 or higher), leaving you plenty of time to change your plans if necessary. It's easy to access, gives extensive, detailed information and comes from extremely reliable sources."
What it does not say is how that information is being delivered to you. Being that it talks about the Bluetooth feature I am cofident that it is being delivered through the BT and not layed out on screen.
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"Intuitive retrieval: just select the location & request the weather
Complete coverage of all locations in Europe, Australia and North America
Premium and detailed weather information, refreshed every hour
Data delivered directly to your device
Single-screen view of current weather, or 5-day forecast (TomTom application version 6.0 or higher)
Clearly spoken weather reports (GO 920/720/520/910)"
What this does not say is that the weather information is "mapped" or "overlayed" onto the chart that you are looking at.
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Thanks for the explanation mi amigo AJ.....are you going to DB? I hope you are.........take care.
Jorge
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The TomTom Rider is a big seller here in Europe. I have no experience of the V2 model, but I CAN tell you that the V1 model had a major, major problem. All - each and every one - of those I know about failed, because the vibration wore the plastic, (very quickly - a cupla thousand miles!) and stopped them from being powered on the bike. Allegedly this is fixed on the V2, but as I say, I don't know.
What I can say is, if I were buying a GPS for my bike, it would be a Zumo.
Jim
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Hi Jim,
I read all the reviews before buying my Zumo 550 and the Rider One had all sorts of problem from falling off the bike to filling up with water. I used to have Compaq/HP iPaqs with tomtom, but if you had a problem it was a nightmare getting it sorted.
I am happy with the Zumo and like the mapsource software for planning trips.
Cheers,
Kev
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Thanks for the info Jim & Kev. Did not find that information when I was researching the units. Will pass along when asked.
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Thanks Jim & Kev for your important info.....So definitively I will go for the zumo :2vrolijk_21:
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Hi Jim,
I read all the reviews before buying my Zumo 550 and the Rider One had all sorts of problem from falling off the bike to filling up with water. I used to have Compaq/HP iPaqs with tomtom, but if you had a problem it was a nightmare getting it sorted.
I am happy with the Zumo and like the mapsource software for planning trips.
Cheers,
Kev
Yes, the falling off bit I've seen too, Kev, though they have a safety lanyard so they can't go anywhere far! On my '03 Ultra I had a nice interface into the Audio System, with Bluetooth, and used my iPaq in a waterproof bar-mounted case with TomTom - worked great. Sadly, no such interface exists for the HK audio system.
Jim
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I don't have ability to talk Bluetooth on my bike, but I have had my phone paired to my Zumo. This will give me the ability to know if I've had a call (hint... from wife), and if I want to stop and call back asap. :nervous:
Good one Gary!!