i really like my harley, and the three harleys before it, [my grand had a knuckle and a pan, dad a string of vespas] but im at the age where buying new is less than likely. encouraging news? my 30 something neighbor just bought a new super glide [have not seen it but i think that is what it is] and my youngest boy just got a sportster, wants to learn to ride before buying a big twin. however - 00 rear cam bearing, then 07 cranks, now m8 oil pumps.. combined with continuous dealer denial. [the neighbor bought max warranty and will ride stock, he has a shovel to hot rod on] the troubles make every person i know reluctant to buy new, let somebody else deal with the problems and then buy used. the problem with this is that sales are half of what they were in 06.. so its a shrinking market [old farts like me] and the young guys have a price limit under 20 for a big twin, and under 10 for anything else.. so... next worry is will the number of dealers shrink, i get most of my parts from the dealer, and i get tires and mounting from the dealer.. if they start going away that will really bum me out.