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dark sunglasses question
« on: May 29, 2009, 04:57:50 PM »

Wanted to get opinions on what dark sunglasses folks are using.  My Panoptics don't get dark enought in full sun.  Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 05:22:36 PM »

Wanted to get opinions on what dark sunglasses folks are using.  My Panoptics don't get dark enought in full sun.  Thanks!

Wiley-X of various models and flavors...collected over the years, also have some ESS stuff, whatever I grab
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 06:04:45 PM »

Costa Del Mar...fishin glasses...

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 06:11:53 PM »

I normally wear OCC safety glasses, picked my last pair up at Lowes Hardware of all places...

http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/occ200-series.html
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 06:17:49 PM »

And these

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 09:06:25 PM »

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 09:58:08 PM »

Rey Ban Wafarers.......I've wore them for so many years they're back in style again.  But I'm stickin with the black frames. ;D
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 10:09:18 PM »

i like oakley radar frames. you can get various lens. :2vrolijk_21:

im waiting on some radar frame with transition lens, had them ordered for a month er so. :nixweiss:


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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 12:33:52 AM »

Wiley-X Jakes. They're light adjusting and they also have an insert to create a better seal to your face. You really don't notice when they get dark because the transition takes a few minutes. I like 'em alot.

I also look really COOL in 'em... :huepfenjump3:
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 01:01:18 AM »

Wanted to get opinions on what dark sunglasses folks are using.  My Panoptics don't get dark enought in full sun.  Thanks!

Which lenses?  If you have the transitions, no, they won't get dark enough.  I LOVE my 7Eye (new name for Panoptics) Taku frames so much that I bought 2 pair.  One with transition lenses (18%-80%) for those early morning starts or late evening endings, and another with dark lenses (NXT Gray, 13%) for daytime.  Works for me.

PS -- 7Eye/Panoptics recommends NOT using Polarized lenses for motorcycle riding.  I think because it removes glare that would allow a rider to identify slick spots in the road. 
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2009, 06:04:13 AM »

If you have the transitions or photo gray, try this. Set the glasses in full sun for about 10 min, then put them in the freezer for about 15 min, then back into FULL sun for 15. repeat this process 3-4 times.
I know its strange but something about lining up the molecules.
and when you go to the freezer, have some ice cream.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2009, 08:56:48 AM »

Which lenses?  If you have the transitions, no, they won't get dark enough.  I LOVE my 7Eye (new name for Panoptics) Taku frames so much that I bought 2 pair.  One with transition lenses (18%-80%) for those early morning starts or late evening endings, and another with dark lenses (NXT Gray, 13%) for daytime.  Works for me.

PS -- 7Eye/Panoptics recommends NOT using Polarized lenses for motorcycle riding.  I think because it removes glare that would allow a rider to identify slick spots in the road. 

Are the NXT Gray dark enough for full sun riding?
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2009, 09:01:47 AM »

If you have the transitions or photo gray, try this. Set the glasses in full sun for about 10 min, then put them in the freezer for about 15 min, then back into FULL sun for 15. repeat this process 3-4 times.
I know its strange but something about lining up the molecules.
and when you go to the freezer, have some ice cream.

no kidding...where do learn to do this?

my wife wears them, might try it

thanks

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2009, 12:50:37 PM »

no kidding...where do learn to do this?

my wife wears them, might try it

thanks

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2009, 01:14:17 PM »

Im a source of knowledge, where it came from? who the f  k knows. but I still can't make, what I would consider, the perfect Margarita

gives you an excuse to keep trying...
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2009, 04:04:40 PM »

Wanted to get opinions on what dark sunglasses folks are using.  My Panoptics don't get dark enought in full sun.  Thanks!

I agree, i love the Panoptics transition lenses but in full sun they just don't cut it.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2009, 08:08:29 PM »

Are the NXT Gray dark enough for full sun riding?

So far so good.  Haven't found a day where I was uncomfortable yet (including all day today - just got in, been out since 7AM). 

Our eyes are all different -- more or less sensitive to light.  13% visible light is a fairly low number (that's the rating on the NXT Gray lenses), although I'm sure there are lower.   I would for sure need something more reflective for a bright day on the ski slopes.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2009, 08:22:59 PM »

What are those like myself that require prescription lenses using for sunglasses? I've been using my regular glasses w/clip on sunglasses, but either the pollen is extremely bad this year or my eyes are getting more sensitive. Rode today and my eyes were itching like crazy not sure if it was pollen or wind but I want to find some glasses more specific to motorcycle riding for better protection. I had thought transition lenses for riding would be good (that way I would only need one pair), but sounds like transitions might not be the best option. :nixweiss: I've also seen the yellow lenses for night driving and was wondering what those that have or tried them thought of them.

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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2009, 09:00:07 PM »

Fired00d, I just recently went to contacts.  In fact, I was going to order prescription 7Eye sunglasses & was in somewhat of a quandary when the best fitting frames didn't come prescription (the Taku frames are wrap-around & do not accommodate a prescrption).  That's when I saw a commercial for multi-focal (near & far correction) contact lenses, and made the switch. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 09:08:06 PM »

Have worn contacts before, but the problem I had then was I couldn't read w/them in. I have astigmatism so I'm constantly taking my glasses off to see things up close and couldn't do that w/contacts. Going for my routine checkup in July and have heard/read that technology has gotten better and they may have contacts that will work for my condition. :nixweiss: Still would like to find some prescription glasses that would work for riding to just in case I still have the problem w/the contacts.

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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2009, 09:20:47 PM »

Got it.  The astigmatism makes it harder to find the right contacts.  Not impossible though -- especially with today's tech.  I wouldn't give up on the idea.
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2009, 09:27:56 PM »

My eyes are suffering from glaucoma and now cataracs are beginning.  And too much damage from glare and such over too many years.....I have to use transition bi-focals so I can read the instruments/GPS etc close up and still see details on signs at a distance.  Have to use the darkest polarized lenses available for day and glare resistant coatings on clear for night.  Use the wraparound RayBans when using a 1/2 helmet but they won't fit under my full coverage so I have to use a smaller aviator flexible frame for both sun and clear with that helmet.  Makes for expensive options, but well worth it to see as good as possible.  Of course, darkness and especially rain reduce visibility greatly for my tired ole eyes.  Still just glad to be able to see at all.....so, I don't complain.  Just keep the optical outfitters happy.  :toff: :cool3: :stare: har.  spyder
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2009, 12:00:36 PM »

I also owned 2 pairs of the Panoptics.  I liked them but for $150+ a pair I always had to be careful with them.  Well my last pair snapped on the frame and Panoptic nor the dealer would warranty them.

Well I was pis&ed so I vowed not to buy another pair and starting looking at what else they offered.  I found a pair of $20 eyeride glasses that had a yellow lense.  There work PERFECT and for only $20 bucks!  I then went back and bought a dark pair for bright days also $20 these have a rubber guard that fits to my face - which I Do Not like because when I sweat it collects there - it does cut down the wind though just like the Panoptics did.

It is now the only sunglasses I buy - there are inexpensive and offer 100%UV protection in any color. :2vrolijk_21:

Here is the website if you want to check them out.

www.eyeride.com
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2009, 04:32:27 PM »

I also owned 2 pairs of the Panoptics.  I liked them but for $150+ a pair I always had to be careful with them.  Well my last pair snapped on the frame and Panoptic nor the dealer would warranty them.

Well I was pis&ed so I vowed not to buy another pair and starting looking at what else they offered.  I found a pair of $20 eyeride glasses that had a yellow lense.  There work PERFECT and for only $20 bucks!  I then went back and bought a dark pair for bright days also $20 these have a rubber guard that fits to my face - which I Do Not like because when I sweat it collects there - it does cut down the wind though just like the Panoptics did.

It is now the only sunglasses I buy - there are inexpensive and offer 100%UV protection in any color. :2vrolijk_21:

Here is the website if you want to check them out.

www.eyeride.com

Panoptics used to charge a minimal amount to repair broken out of warranty glasses (depending on whats broken).  I think I paid 60$ to repair a broken frame.  Not sure what the new company charges.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2009, 04:49:15 PM »

Fired00d, I just recently went to contacts.  In fact, I was going to order prescription 7Eye sunglasses & was in somewhat of a quandary when the best fitting frames didn't come prescription (the Taku frames are wrap-around & do not accommodate a prescrption).  That's when I saw a commercial for multi-focal (near & far correction) contact lenses, and made the switch. 
What brand are you using?  I used Accuvision bifocals for a couple of years, but never really got good bifocal results.  If I got strong enough to allow reading small print, they were out of focus at distance & vice versa.  I am now using Proclear Multifocal (by Cooper Vision), and they are great!

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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2009, 05:52:49 PM »

What brand are you using?  I used Accuvision bifocals for a couple of years, but never really got good bifocal results.  If I got strong enough to allow reading small print, they were out of focus at distance & vice versa.  I am now using Proclear Multifocal (by Cooper Vision), and they are great!

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Currently using Biomedics EP (by Cooper Vision), and I'm having the same near vs far problem you mention but going back in next week for a fine tune.  I'll mention Proclear Multifocals when I'm in.  Like I mentioned earlier this is new to me, so we're just getting them dialed in.  I read a lot of good feedback from users of Frequency 55 multifocals (again, from Cooper) and plan on trying these as well.
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2009, 05:56:34 PM »

Currently using Biomedics EP (by Cooper Vision), and I'm having the same near vs far problem you mention but going back in next week for a fine tune.  I'll mention Proclear Multifocals when I'm in.  Like I mentioned earlier this is new to me, so we're just getting them dialed in.  I read a lot of good feedback from users of Frequency 55 multifocals (again, from Cooper) and plan on trying these as well.
Good luck & let me know which way you go.  I'm really happy with the Proclear, but always willing to shop around for something better!
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2009, 08:55:45 AM »

Anyone try these sunglasses? I read not to get polarized for riding...true/false?  

http://www.liquidpolarized.com/store/detail.html?style_id=31

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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2009, 09:06:51 AM »

Anyone try these sunglasses? I read not to get polarized for riding...true/false?  

http://www.liquidpolarized.com/store/detail.html?style_id=31


I use nothing else by polarized during the day and find them great~  the only problem I've had with them is at gas pumps trying to read the 'instructions' for credit card/pump use......they must be LCDs cause the polarized lenses eliminated them.  spyder
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2009, 09:51:54 AM »

The reason Polarized lenses are not recommend for riders is that they hide glare from slick spots -- which we would otherwise notice.  I wore nothing but Polarized lenses while riding, and loved them, until I read this.

Taking the risk seriously I switched to a non-Polarized lens in my 7Eye Taku's, and have no problem with them at all.
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2009, 10:27:42 AM »

I use nothing else by polarized during the day and find them great~  the only problem I've had with them is at gas pumps trying to read the 'instructions' for credit card/pump use.....they must be LCDs cause the polarized lenses eliminated them.  spyder

Amen on that. I've come close to buying a car wash more than a couple of times.  :o
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2009, 11:12:48 AM »

I use nothing else by polarized during the day and find them great~  the only problem I've had with them is at gas pumps trying to read the 'instructions' for credit card/pump use......they must be LCDs cause the polarized lenses eliminated them.  spyder

Anything with a polycarbonate cover will cause that...covers on the gas pump, some motorcycle windshields, airplane windshields, instrument gauges,  so we have to be carefull who we prescribe them for. Pilots and police officers are advised not to use polarize eyewear. The only time you are around polarized light is if it reflects off a smooth surface like glassy water or ice, so its mostly overkill and a waste of money for most purposes. Most prescription polarized eyewear is made out of polycarbonate which has really crappy optics, so if you have a choice get CR-39 plastic polarized. I'm on the water a lot so I like them for that, but not on the bike.

I've had the best luck with B/L PureVision MultiFocal contact lenses, but the Cooper products have always been good too. The Cooper BioMedics 55 Premier has aspheric optics and is by far the best single vision lens available today. Doc
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2009, 11:39:09 AM »

What are those like myself that require prescription lenses using for sunglasses? I've been using my regular glasses w/clip on sunglasses, but either the pollen is extremely bad this year or my eyes are getting more sensitive. Rode today and my eyes were itching like crazy not sure if it was pollen or wind but I want to find some glasses more specific to motorcycle riding for better protection. I had thought transition lenses for riding would be good (that way I would only need one pair), but sounds like transitions might not be the best option. :nixweiss: I've also seen the yellow lenses for night driving and was wondering what those that have or tried them thought of them.

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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2009, 04:36:53 PM »

dood, I get the itchy eyes also have had hay fever all my life. Try using Visine Allergy, helps take the fire out nice.
Thanks I'll try it. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2009, 01:30:16 AM »

dood, I get the itchy eyes also have had hay fever all my life. Try using Visine Allergy, helps take the fire out nice.

Have your eye doc give you a sample of Pataday and see if it works for you. It's usually very effective and one drop in the morning is all you need for the day. Doc
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2009, 11:28:38 AM »

Thanks, never heard of that, will have to check that out. Should have known just ask the DOC.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2009, 12:20:03 PM »

Gatorz.www.gatorz.com. Frames guaranteed for life. I've had mine 10 years & still perfect. Brother in law just sent his back after 12 years. Rebuild with new glass around $40.00. Can't get any better than that.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2009, 02:23:56 PM »

Pataday is probably the best out there for allergies.  It will take a few days of usage before you see an improvement, but once working it does a great job.  d00d, if you've got much astigmatism, there's nothing out there that works WELL for a multifocal.  You can do monovision (one eye for near and one for distance), but if you're type A about your vision, you won't be satisfied with your vision.  The multifocals work well for many patients, but they need to be regularly tweaked for optimum vision.  If you're taking off your glasses all the time to read, why not do a pair of distance contacts and use a pair of readers when you need to see up close?  You could even do a daily dispoable contact for your distance (it MAY work for your astigmatism), so you'd only wear them when you ride.  Relatively inexpensive and no solutions to worry about AND they work well for patients with allergies.

A transition lens won't get real dark, no matter what you do with it.  The transitions of yesteryear could be forced to get darker some by the freezing method, but it's short lived.  The new ones don't respond to this treatment.  A good dark polarized lens will allow you to see whatever you want in full sunlight- except the damn lcd screens!  ANY flat surface reflects light, so the polarization will also cut the glare coming off the road surface as well as windshields, hoods, water, etc, etc.  You do have to "learn" that slick spots won't be necessarily shiney, but you can STILL see them just fine.  Some people like a little yellow tint at night, as it does slightly cut on coming headlight glare.

Visine Allergy has naphazoline hydrochloride in it to reduce redness.  This is an epinephrine analog, which works by simply shrinking the diameter of your blood vessels.  The problem with this is repeated usage can cause a "rebound" affect, where your blood vessels need the drug to keep them normal sized!  It also uses benzalkonium chloride (BAK) as a preservative.  This is probably the MOST allergy causing preservative on the market to day.  It's the preservatives that we're all allergic to, so you should try to stay away from anything with a preservative if you're fighting allergies already.  Prolonged usage can lead to an allergy to the preservative, thus making things worse than if you hadn't used the product at all.   Unfortunately, MOST of the antiallergy drops out there use BAK as a preservative, so it's tough to get away from.  Pataday also uses it, but it works well enough to not cause a problem AND you're only taking it once a day, so the chance for an allergic reaction to BAK is very slight.  If your allergies are slight, then a simple artificial tear (non-preserved or disappearing preservative, preferably) and cool compresses will do as much AND you don't run the risk of a preservative allergy reaction.

Keeping you eyes lubricated while riding (re:all the time) will help reduce you allergies.  Spending lots of time on the computer, as most people do now, will dry your eyes out terribly, so good lubrication will make you more productive and more comfortable.  There are a couple of good ones out there, such as Refresh Endura or Similsan Computer Eyes both work very well and don't require frequent instillation.


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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2009, 02:59:30 PM »

Not seeing slicks on roads or moguls when skiing with polarized eyewear really gets my attention and has never been comfortable for me, great for fishing though. In my experience Similisan is the drop of choice for dry eyes because it is one of the few without BAK and is contact lens friendly. Patanol gives immediate relief because of he antihistamine, the mast cell stabilizer does take a few days to kick in but for acute problems can't be beat and then switch to a a pure mast cell stabilizer like Alomide for chronic relief. I don't like folks using a antihistamines all the time because of the anti-cholonergic effects which can lead to decreased accommodation, dilated pupils and spikes in ocular pressure. Hey its great doing shop talk with someone on this site.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 03:18:50 AM »

I've got the 7Eye (former Panoptx) 13%.  I tried the transition lenses and they did not get dark enough.  I wear contacts, so the prescription wasn't important to me.  Although the 7Eye are not as dark as my RayBan's, they are more than adequate in bright sun and the field of vision is so much better than my RayBans and I seem to see more clearly through them.  The only thing I don't like about them is the frame seems to be fragile where the stems connect.  I haven't had a problem with breakage, but they just have that feel that makes me treat them very gently to make sure that they don't break.  From trying on everything from the Harleys and Wiley-X and 7Eye, I only found one pair that really fit me well, so that was a major part of my decision to purchase the 7Eye's.  If the Wiley-X's fit me better and the foam cushions made a good seal around my eyes, I would have probably gone that route...just based on what I've seen posted and some other friends that swear by them.  So, some of us won't have as many choices to make in the end if you can't get a good fit out of many different glasses.  Hopefully, you'll have more choice than I did, but I'm still quite happy with the 7Eye pair I ended up with.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2009, 10:24:29 AM »

1ab, nice write-up on the 7Eye lenses.  Which frames did you choose?
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2009, 10:27:37 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2009, 11:32:57 AM »

if memory serves me right they were something like this
Hey Larry, is that you behind those RayBans?  :o har!  spyder
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2009, 12:00:14 PM »

Hey Larry, is that you behind those RayBans?  :o har!  spyder
It looks a little like Dave. After his Dr McGillicudy's
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2009, 03:24:05 PM »

It looks a little like Dave. After his Dr McGillicudy's

I went through the same chit in Maggie Valley.  Went to 2 ABC Stores and all they had was that mint flavored crap.  But I've got a fresh bottle of Cherry Dr McGullicudy's in the fridge for the Stanley Cup Final game.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2009, 03:26:27 PM »

1ab, nice write-up on the 7Eye lenses.  Which frames did you choose?

The only ones to fit me well were the Whirlwinds, so that's what I got.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2009, 12:16:23 AM »

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2009, 12:25:32 AM »

I have the 7Eye (Panoptx) and after about 2 - 3 months, both sides of the padding is ripping.  I bought a pair of Wiley X's yesterday and that is a purchase I already regret.  They do a horrible job of blocking the sun and I'm don't know if I'll ever wear them again for riding.  I have to send my foam inserts to 7Eye for replacement, and I'll just have to hope that the new ones last longer.  I previously made a post indicating that I liked the 7Eyes, but suddenly, I'm not real pleased with the foam problem.  The Wiley X Jakes, again, are a purchase that I regret making.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2009, 12:19:05 AM »

The Wiley X Jakes, again, are a purchase that I regret making.
Dave, sorry to hear you say that - I just ordered a pair based on some of the recommendations on the forum.  What did you not like?  Which lenses did you get?  I bought the light adjusting gray.

I got tired of the scary trips through tunnels with dark sunglasses.

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2009, 12:24:56 AM »

  I bought the light adjusting gray.

I got tired of the scary trips through tunnels with dark sunglasses.

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I've never seen adjusting lenses that would adjust quickly enough for a tunnel on a highway.   :-\  spyder
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2009, 12:46:08 AM »

I've never seen adjusting lenses that would adjust quickly enough for a tunnel on a highway.   :-\  spyder

Crap.

Seemed like a good idea at the time.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2009, 12:47:24 AM »

Dave, sorry to hear you say that - I just ordered a pair based on some of the recommendations on the forum.  What did you not like?  Which lenses did you get?  I bought the light adjusting gray.

I got tired of the scary trips through tunnels with dark sunglasses.

Ed

I did not get the transition lenses.  I got the ones that stay dark all the time.  I bought them at the rally in Johnstown and I wore them home on Saturday.  My eyes were burning the entire way home.  They just are not dark enough for me.  My 7Eye's are about perfect for the sunlight.  My RayBan's are the best in the sun, but they are so dark that I can't see the display on the radio, etc. and going through the tunnels is real bad with the RayBan's.

Back when I bought the 7Eye's, I had tried the transition lenses in both 7Eye and WileyX and I took them out in the bright sun to try them and they did not get dark enough for me.  I read up on the trick with putting the transition lenses in the freezer to darken them up some, but from what I read, it's very temporary and they are supposed to lighten back up as they heat up again.  I decided that I could live with switching glasses once per day to clear lenses if I ride late into the day and it's getting dark out, so I opted against the transition lenses.

I also seem to get a better fit with the 7Eye glasses than with the WileyX.  I could feel my contacts drying on me with the WileyX.  Fit is going to be on an individual basis though.  The strange thing is that I can wear by RayBan's with no wind protection and not have the same problem that I was having with the WileyX's.  That I don't understand.  Luckily, I have a friend that wants to buy my WileyX's from me.  He tried the same pair and didn't get them.  He liked them and he told me he'll pay me the full price and take them off my hands.

I'm still not completely thrilled with the 7Eye though either, so I may try a different WileyX and see if they are any better.  The 7Eye foam is ripping apart on both sides, even though I have been very delicate in handling them.  The 7Eye frames seem much more delicate and prone to breakage, although I haven't had a problem with that yet.  Once I find a good replacement pair, I'll send in the foam from the 7Eye pair for replacement, but the warranty is only one year, so I don't know what I'll do after they start ripping a 2nd or 3rd time.  The WileyX frames and foam both appeared to be constructed much sturdier, so I would really like to find a pair of those that work for me...but I'm afraid that I've already tried their darkest lenses and they didn't do it for me.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2009, 12:49:41 PM »

The WileyX frames foam will last longer than the Panoptx/7Eyes.  I had the Panoptx and the foam would die within a year on mine and everyone I saw.  The WileyX's I currently have is the old aluminum framed XL-3.  They quite making it 2 years ago.   I still have the original foam on them.  Yes it's worn, but it's still serviceable.  I've NEVER found a transitions lens that is dark enough for me.  I hate the fact that they lighten up in the car, the DON'T work when it gets really hot, they don't work fast enough to really be useful and they quit working after about 30 months.  I have the original set of lenses I put in the WileyX's now after 3 years.  They're still dark and they stay dark!
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2009, 02:10:44 PM »

Costa DelMar....fishing glasses w/mirror lenses, polarized.  I love em.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2009, 05:17:45 PM »

The WileyX's I currently have is the old aluminum framed XL-3.  They quite making it 2 years ago.   I still have the original foam on them.  Yes it's worn, but it's still serviceable. 

Have you tried contacting them for replacement foam? I just got two replacement "facial cavity seals" (foam) for my model JP-2s which they stopped making several years ago. Life is good again.

My only knock on the Wileys is the inability to get progressive bi-focals. The ones I use have the distinct line between the two corrections.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2009, 03:09:10 PM »

Screamin,

I haven't tried to get new foam, as mine isn't that bad.  As for the progressives, you just need to go to your optometrist.  He should be able to do what WileyX won't.  I've done several WileyX's with progressives, one has MUCH more prescription than what WX is willing to do.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2009, 01:01:55 PM »

I'm using these ..  mine are perscription : http://www.drivewearlens.com/effect.php

I also have a set of Bolle's with the high definition /mirror lens - Polarized Sandstone

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2009, 02:04:42 AM »

I find Maui Jim are the best. I always go with polorized glass. I just bought the Peahi and they are great. The frames are large and it gives complete coverage over the entire eye. Sunglass hut lets you try them for 90 days with a no question return policy.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2009, 09:03:13 AM »

I have three diffrent pairs of Oakley's. One pair since 1999.And still look great. They have the polarized lens and are dark enough for the sun and work great in rain and early evening. I was caught out when it got a little late and could see well enough to get home. I don't reccomend this but was impressed that it still could be done. They are a little expensive but well worth it.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2009, 11:17:30 PM »

Any of y'all ever used Icicles?  I bought their high-definition lenses (about $130 at HD 105th last year) copper toned lenses, aluminum cruiser style.  I've loved them every minute and even though they are dark enough for the brightest day I've had, I still keep them on when pulling in the garage at the office building.  However, the wife bought the less expensive plastic frames and they almost fall off her face on the freeway - but she loves the lenses.

http://www.icicles.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=278&HS=1
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2009, 12:00:34 AM »

Any of y'all ever used Icicles?  I bought their high-definition lenses (about $130 at HD 105th last year) copper toned lenses, aluminum cruiser style.  I've loved them every minute and even though they are dark enough for the brightest day I've had, I still keep them on when pulling in the garage at the office building.  However, the wife bought the less expensive plastic frames and they almost fall off her face on the freeway - but she loves the lenses.

http://www.icicles.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=278&HS=1

Do you have their foam inserts also?  It looks like they may fit all of their glasses, but I didn't see where it tells you that for sure.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2009, 12:18:51 AM »

Honestly, aren't the prices for sunglasses RIDICULOUS???

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2009, 10:32:42 AM »

Abastarsmda, I don't have the inserts because they make me sweat too much.  Honestly though, with the contour of the frames, I don't get so much wind that I need them.

Yes, they are ridiculously expensive!
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2009, 01:14:19 PM »

Wanted to get opinions on what dark sunglasses folks are using.  My Panoptics don't get dark enought in full sun.  Thanks!

I've worn Ray Ban sunglasses for over 40 years for riding, flying and just about everything else. I've yet to find anything darker than their G15 lens that doesn't distort light or colors. Kinda pricey, the aviators aren't as stout as some. As someone suggested, the Wayfarers are a good choice.

As I got older and my distant vision eroded I tried just about everything in a changeable lens. Nothing got dark enough for me. I started using contact lenses and some el-cheapo dark, wraparound safety glasses from Lowe's. Worked great until the near vision started getting a litte fuzzy. Then I found the safety glasses with windowed bifocals.

Last year I discover Corning's Thin n Dark glass lenses. They get as dark as anything I've ever used, the progresive bifocal is perfect and they have just enough weight to not bounce around in the wind while being light enough to be comfortable.

YMMV... TL
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2009, 01:53:33 PM »

I've worn Ray Ban sunglasses for over 40 years for riding, flying and just about everything else. I've yet to find anything darker than their G15 lens that doesn't distort light or colors. Kinda pricey, the aviators aren't as stout as some. As someone suggested, the Wayfarers are a good choice.

As I got older and my distant vision eroded I tried just about everything in a changeable lens. Nothing got dark enough for me. I started using contact lenses and some el-cheapo dark, wraparound safety glasses from Lowe's. Worked great until the near vision started getting a litte fuzzy. Then I found the safety glasses with windowed bifocals.

Last year I discover Corning's Thin n Dark glass lenses. They get as dark as anything I've ever used, the progresive bifocal is perfect and they have just enough weight to not bounce around in the wind while being light enough to be comfortable.

YMMV... TL

I wear my Ray Bans when I ride around locally, but with my contacts, I tend to get too much wind on the open road.  The Panoptx (7Eye) pair I have with the foam does me well, although not as dark as the Ray Bans.  I sold my pair of WileyX since they weren't dark enough and the fit didn't serve me well for wind protection.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2009, 02:22:51 PM »

I wear my Ray Bans when I ride around locally, but with my contacts, I tend to get too much wind on the open road.  The Panoptx (7Eye) pair I have with the foam does me well, although not as dark as the Ray Bans.  I sold my pair of WileyX since they weren't dark enough and the fit didn't serve me well for wind protection.

Forgot to tell you last night - as I recall, Icicles DOES have foam inserts for all their glasses.  If you're headed to Sturgis, I bet they will be there so you can try them before buying.  If not, look for my O/B with TX plates and CB 16" screen and I'll let you try mine on.  We'll be there hopefully by Monday afternoon, July 27.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2009, 11:10:12 PM »

I just found out that the Panoptx (7Eye) glasses, at least the Whirlwind model that I have, now has foam pads with lenses.  To translate, you can now buy the foam pads with lenses inserted, to wear behind the regular lenses.  Result is a much darker lens.  I went to have my foam replaced since it's ripping apart.  When the gal at the dealer went to see if they had another foam piece in stock, what she pulled out had sunglass lenses inserted in the foam.  I think they wanted $35 for the foam with lenses.  The lenses are removable, so you can still have the foam inserts with just the regular lens in use, or pop them in and you are using 2 lenses.  I haven't really had much problem with the darkness of mine, so I opted for just the replacement foam.  But just in case anyone wants to make their glasses darker, they do have the option available.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #67 on: August 25, 2009, 03:35:49 AM »

I just got my replacement foam inserts back from 7Eye and they are different that what came with them originally.  The foam now has what seems to be something like a velour covering over the foam portion.  I was told at the dealer that this was a new upgrade and that it is supposed to protect the foam from disintegrating and they also think that the new model is washable...but they couldn't confirm this for me.  The fit seems the same and they may even be a bit more comfortable, but I'll have to take a longer ride to make that statement firm.  I just checked on 7Eye's website and they are washable also.
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« Reply #68 on: August 25, 2009, 06:43:07 AM »

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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #69 on: August 25, 2009, 08:24:47 AM »

another Mod complete :2vrolijk_21:

I think that's more like repair/replacement of a prior faulty mod.  As long as I don't have to get the Dremel involved, it's all good. :coolblue:
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #70 on: May 30, 2010, 01:27:40 PM »

RayBan Wayfarers's..G-15 lense...worn em for the last 30 years...I tend to stick with what works. Have had to have them domne with prescription lenses for the last 15 years..i wear em ridin..for work..in the pool..on the boat...great glasses...classic style :orange:
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #71 on: May 30, 2010, 01:42:22 PM »

RayBan Wayfarers's..G-15 lense...worn em for the last 30 years...I tend to stick with what works. Have had to have them domne with prescription lenses for the last 15 years..i wear em ridin..for work..in the pool..on the boat...great glasses...classic style :orange:

...the G-15's are glass lenses which provide the best optics and protection from harmful radiation. Doc
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #72 on: May 30, 2010, 01:48:02 PM »

 RayBan's G-15 is the best lens out there. I'm always on the hunt for more.I have more pairs of Raybans then I can count.

I have been wearing Maui Jim's the last few years and really like them. I have not had any wind problem with them at all.  :2vrolijk_21:

I can not stand the foam on my skin from some of the other "motorcycle" glasses. So I wear a good quality lens and say the heck with it.

After 29 years of collecting "junk" motorcycle sunglasses I stay with Maui's and RayBan's. They work for me and that is all that counts. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #73 on: May 30, 2010, 02:32:40 PM »

Im a source of knowledge, where it came from? who the f  k knows. but I still can't make, what I would consider, the perfect Margarita
Go to Ricks in Key West, best Margarita ever.  They also sell their mix.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2010, 01:08:44 AM »

Just bought the new oakley PIT Bosses love them best riding classes so far
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2010, 08:16:13 AM »

Just bought the new oakley PIT Bosses love them best riding classes so far
They should be for that price!
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2010, 04:52:32 PM »

Anyone try these sunglasses? I read not to get polarized for riding...true/false?  

http://www.liquidpolarized.com/store/detail.html?style_id=31


I spoke with liquid the other day and I think Ill try the gasket with the hellfire lens. Goes down to 17 in the sun. They are proud of these lenses and they are proud of these lenses also.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2010, 09:36:16 AM »

Let me know how they turn out, I need to get a pair before the next CVO GTG.
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Re: dark sunglasses question
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2010, 03:49:21 PM »

Go to your Stihl (chainsaw) dealer and look at their safety glasses. Several different good looking styles and make great riding sunglasses. Different shades from clear to very dark and also yellow. As good as any I have ever owned and best of all they are less than $20 bucks.
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