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[SPIDERMAN]

I went down this road awhile back with one of my first posts. Not knowing anyone on the site, I clammed up when everyone told me to buy a Jim's, or a Zippers etc. A few hundred posts later I have this to say. My dealer will install a complete 113 in my 03 SERK for 5K. He wants 7K for a complete and ready to install Jim's motor. (we'll leave Mr. Zipper out of this for a moment) So a motor swap out books at about 8 hours at $80/hr, so we have another $640. Now I have a good relationship with this dealer and the they know my riding habits. They advised me that I would not find the JIm's motor to me MY personal reliability standards. That'a MY standards just to be clear. AND, the cost would be at least $2,640 more. And, according to them to be legal I would need to redo my California registration to include the VIN on the Jim's motor. Bottom line for me is that once I get done with the other projects I've got going at the moment, I'm going with the dealer installed 113 and save money and hassle. Will there be speedbaggers out there who's taillights I must see on occasion. There's always someone faster somewhere. Even my 150 mph SE V-ROD got beat one day. But, the guy that beat me that day has never gone more than 2,500 miles without his bike being in the shop for MAJOR repair work.

[fatboyse2]

I'm with you on this[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

I spent a lot of time looking at the options and how I would use what I was spending MYHEM (my hard earned money) on.  I stuck with the 103, but did everything else.  My dealer service guys are always available and I've had my share of questions both smart and dumb for them.  The JIMs option was seriously considered, but was 6500 installed for a 106 they had (that was discounted), the 120 was another 2+.

[mdduce]

Just got my 113" done and got my 500 miles the dealer said he wished i would put on it before jumping on it too hard.WELL so far im very satisfied and supprised at the seat of the pants difference!I am going to the tuner and dyno thur or fri. will let you know what it does,like you said you wont ever be the badest thing out there,that is if you are actualy riding a lot casule and hard,with dependability.

[SPIDERMAN]

What did it cost you ?  What heads, pistons, cams etc

[Unbalanced]

Grover,

I would only ask one more thing of Hal's what are the numbers at 10" with your intake on the there and not an 8" stack.   See the key is here is what is it going to push with your setup.  Standardization is great, but real world is with your intake and I would have loved to have seen a comparison with your intake on there compared to the short stack.

Other than that it looks good a slight deviation on the red line for the exhaust port but within range and nothing to be concerned with.  

-harry

[Grover]

Unbalanced,
Thanks for your input! I sent you a pm.

[Unbalanced]

Thanks Grover I responded.

[mdduce]

Well got dyno done today on 113 build put on a v&h two into one and got 120.8 hp 130.4 tq, I think that is pretty good,does that sound about right it seems real good at the seat of the pants,but its the first big inch motor I"ve ever had.

[Grover]

mdduce,

  Congrats on your new mods! It should really liven up that Duece!
If you don't mind me asking, what cams, throttle body size, and did you go with the timken bearing or the bearing support.

Take care,

Grover

[Unbalanced]

mdduce,

That is right in the ballpark.  The 4 I have heard about have been 125 to 134 Torque and 120 to 128 hp.   I would say your right there in the mix.  Congrats I know that has gotta be a ton of fun to hold on to.

[mdduce]

SORRY SO SLOW TO GET BACK!IPUT THE 264 cams from harley 50mm throtelbody 113 stroker crank kit rollers perfict fit push rods 103plus heads,I did not do the timken swap,because of the dealership that done the build,said only way they would stand behind it was too go by harley"suggested build specs?wellllllllll see how that goes!I also put the thunderheader on not for looks but for going light too light the v&h bigshots just didn"t have the #s.OH I FORGOT THE 10.5 TO1 HARLEY PISTONS.Aint this stuff fun,already got 755 miles on it 2.5 weeks dead of winter! its been realy warm here 4 or 5 days this month.

[Grover]

Thanks for the info mdduce. Now you'll be changing that rear tire more frequently... that's the cost of power though.

 I sure hope the lower bearings hold up for the long haul. But as long as the dealership stands behind it that's o.k. I'd almost want that in writing though.

Good luck, enjoy, and ride on!! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Take Care,

Grover

[mdduce]

I did get it in writing,they are to stand behind it for the remainder of the 7 year warranty,5yr's 4mo left,this is what made me go with the harley 113'' instead of jims or zippers plus still have all original #s on bike and they wont baulk on the tranny if it spits it out.But i realy doint want to test them on it either,stealers are realy good at backing up writing or not!I like you,it will be amaizing if the bottom will really take the preasure as is but they were strong against timkin doint think i will ever understand that mind set.Hence the 113" their way!!!!!!!!!Thanks for the reply.PS i also put a ness big sucker breather,ran again and got those last numbers i posted.124hp 134.8

[mdduce]

I did get it in writing,they are to stand behind it for the remainder of the 7 year warranty,5yr's 4mo left,this is what made me go with the harley 113'' instead of jims or zippers plus still have all original #s on bike and they wont baulk on the tranny if it spits it out.But i realy doint want to test them on it either,stealers are realy good at backing up writing or not!I like you,it will be amaizing if the bottom will really take the preasure as is but they were strong against timkin doint think i will ever understand that mind set.Hence the 113" their way!!!!!!!!!Thanks for the reply.PS i also put a ness big sucker breather,ran again and got those last numbers i posted.124hp 134.8tq

[Road_Glider]

mddeuce, man sounds like a sweet deuce you got there.  Would love to have that HP and TQ on a deuce.  Bet you are gonna have some fun this spring and summer.
Let's see some pics of that baby.