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[Eagle Eye]

Sorry for the side trip, but y'all brought up a subject to which I'm closely connected.  

Regarding the real Jesse James.  My 2G Grandfather (Stephen Carter Ragan) was a school teacher in Kansas City.  The first in the area.  Jesse and his siblings were his students along with everyone else within 20+ miles at the time.  Stephen went on to be a Capt in the the Confederate Army, and later a 2 term State Senator for Missouri.

The James, Younger, Chiles and Ragan families were very close.  Actually, they all moved from the Lexington Kentucky area at the same time.  I am related to the Younger, Chiles and Ragans. My 3G Grandmother's name was Sarah Younger, Aunt of the Younger brothers, Stephen's Carter Ragan's mother and wife of Jacob Ragan.  They among 14 other families founded West Port Landing, now known as Kansas City.

Without going into a lot of detail -- My Grandfather told me a story how long after Jesse was supposed to be dead, he walked up to my 2G Grandfather and tapped him on the shoulder from behind.  They were downtown KC.  In any case, It was 20 years (1902) after the supposed assassination.  If Jesse was dead, he sure made a good second coming according to my Grandfather.  He said they spoke for a few minutes and he never saw him again.

Since I wasn't there, I have no idea whether my Grandfather was just telling stories or not.  But Stephen was still alive until 1907 and my Grandfather, born in 1900, had many opportunities to be with him as a child.  So, who knows? These people were close friends of the family. 

I believe Jesse was granted amnesty, since he'd long cleaned up his act and was no longer chasing trains for a living...Pinkerton be damned.  No love lost between the RR and Washington.  Perhaps the feds let him off the hook.

[1sharprdkg]

All three are dicks. There are far too many good guys in the industry to be wasting an ounce of energy in following or supporting these clowns with our eyeballs. You can add Lane and a few others as well.

Perhaps if we stopped watching anything related to these idiots, someone might actually consider refocusing on the Ness's, Perewitz, Johnson, Hotch, Mitchell, Smith, Yaffe, Fitch, Trotta, Young, Suter, Chica, etc, of the world, who are actually supportive of the industry and are decent down to earth people as well.

Imho, it really sucks that the only programming they care to focus on developing is on the industry retards, just for the shock value.

Trash TV if you ask me.

X2 Totally agree with mrmagloo! Would have been a total waste of my time if I had even known that the stupid show was on TV.

[Dead_Reckoning]

It would have been much more interesting IMHO, if they had to ride 300 - 500 miles to the Build Off Contest, as in numerous previous build offs on the Discovery Channel.
Synergy - Functionality and Looks
Sculpture - Just Artwork.

[spydglide]

It would have been much more interesting IMHO, if they had to ride 300 - 500 miles to the Build Off Contest, as in numerous previous build offs on the Discovery Channel.
Synergy - Functionality and Looks
Sculpture - Just Artwork.

Yeah, I liked the earlier episodes that req'd. them to travel a few hundred miles on the scooters. (Even with the chase vehicles, it sorted out some of the form/function.) spyder

[Eagle Eye]

Yeah, I liked the earlier episodes that req'd. them to travel a few hundred miles on the scooters. (Even with the chase vehicles, it sorted out some of the form/function.) spyder

Yes.  The bikes look cool, but are craP beyond 50 miles.  You have to wear a kidney belt...

[cvobiker]

Yes.  The bikes look cool, but are craP beyond 50 miles.  You have to wear a kidney belt...

Hell,,, Seniors wouldn't make it 5 miles..  and i agree, the build off should have been a build in drive like the ole shows   

IMO - the OCC days, including Paul Jr Designs are on their last leg... Discovery would be crazy to waste any more valuable show time on these idiots..  I enjoy the new Auctions War shows over this build off garbage..   

[REJEANHD]

iT WAS A GOOD TV SHOW.....

[Chains]

Anyone that was dumb enough to screw over Sandra Bullock should not be allowed on TV.  JJ eyes looked as though he was needing his next fix, he is a jackass.

[CVOThunder]

 

[Spiderman]

Three big egos. Three diametrically opposed views on what constitutes a custom motorcycle. Three radical vehicles, none of which I could probably ride from Dago to Vegas and back. Jr's because most likely it's got a 1 gallon fuel cell and is not intended for the open road. Sr's because - - -well because I doubt the tracks would hold up for 700 miles of desert highway. And Jesse's because my back would break by the time I hit Victorville IF and it's a big IF, I didn't crash cause I sure as hell wouldn't be able to see over the damn front end. I suppose barring that, Jesse's bike would be the most reliable and would no doubt make the trip with somebody that could manage being folded up like a jacknife for 700 miles - - again, IF they could see WTF they were going. Having said all that, the show accomplished one thing in my mind. That Jr is a better designer than Jason Poole. Poole the fool has no idea what a custom motorcycle is supposed to be. I look at PJD as designing motorcycles in the same vein as some of the crazier chopper guys of the late 60's and early 70's. Guys like Ron Finch for one. SugarBear with his insane 24" over springers, gooseneck frames etc.  Show bikes, trailer queens, pieces of art, whatever but two wheels an engine a transmission and a frame all within the boundaries of traditional motorcycle styling. Poole was trying to prove he could do something wilder than PJD's Gears of War bike. He failed, OCC failed and I guess the only thing about the whole fiasco that was decent was Sr shaking his son's hand.

B B

[dlaws01]

I missed it. Was busy watching the "Turtle Man" catch a couple of skunks.

[murphy]

I'm watching it now, just seems like the usual crying from OCC & JPD, JJ has a point... he really is the only one who can build a bike from the ground up.

[wicked110]

Sr did not build a bike. Pull you head out of your azz sparky.
Jr bought the parts to build a bike. Plus who fuk wants to smell like burt oil. What a dumb fuk.
JJ built a bike. Next time use shorter bar risers.

JJ bike was by far the best bike on the stage.

[guppytrash]

Jr's bike was by far the coolest looking!
That being said...I wouldn't waste a dollar to ride any of those three bikes.
As far as the characters... Sr., Jr., and JJ...Jr. is the only one of them seems civil enough to hang out with.  Sr. and JJ seem like egomaniac Jackazz's.
Vinny is cooler then of all of them.

[Mano]

Anyone that was dumb enough to screw over Sandra Bullock should not be allowed on TV.  JJ eyes looked as though he was needing his next fix, he is a jackass.

X2

He will be kicking himself one day for letting a bombshell like that go.