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Re: stall
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2017, 10:49:55 AM »

any updates
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Re: stall
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2017, 12:38:05 PM »

My 15 did this, it stalled twice while rolling and one at a stop sign. Every time I took it back to dealer they told me you need to put more miles on it granted it was in first month of ownership. Once I installed Fullsac, TTS and Steve's map I have never had that problem again.

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Re: stall
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2017, 12:53:03 PM »

I'm calling HD customer service today.
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Re: stall
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2017, 01:58:58 PM »

good i'am glad your calling
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Re: stall
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2017, 02:45:33 PM »

any updates
I spoke to my dealer's service manager about a month ago about this problem.  He and the lead tech were well aware of it, had experienced it themselves and noted a a couple customers who were picking up brand new bikes had almost dropped them leaving the parking lot because of this issue.  Lead tech said it was due to sluggish throttle response from off idle and he had successfully tuned it out of other bikes.  But I'm not paying any more Harley tax to get this sort of runability issue corrected.  No way, no how.  Been there, done that and not doing it again.

After speaking with moco tech support they wanted me to bring bike in to verify the ECM calibration - fancy way of saying to determine that I had not diddled with the map which I have not.  It is bone stock.  Service manager read ECM and advised that there was a newer calibration - 41000485B which he loaded.  My bike had the 'A' calibration.  Unfortunately it made no difference as I still experienced the hesitation a couple more times.  I advised him of this and he is in consult with the moco again.  Be nice to get this chit sorted.
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Re: stall
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2017, 08:29:01 PM »

I spoke to my dealer's service manager about a month ago about this problem.  He and the lead tech were well aware of it, had experienced it themselves and noted a a couple customers who were picking up brand new bikes had almost dropped them leaving the parking lot because of this issue.  Lead tech said it was due to sluggish throttle response from off idle and he had successfully tuned it out of other bikes.  But I'm not paying any more Harley tax to get this sort of runability issue corrected.  No way, no how.  Been there, done that and not doing it again.

After speaking with moco tech support they wanted me to bring bike in to verify the ECM calibration - fancy way of saying to determine that I had not diddled with the map which I have not.  It is bone stock.  Service manager read ECM and advised that there was a newer calibration - 41000485B which he loaded.  My bike had the 'A' calibration.  Unfortunately it made no difference as I still experienced the hesitation a couple more times.  I advised him of this and he is in consult with the moco again.  Be nice to get this chit sorted.


I believe all the updated calibration did was to raise the idle 100 rpm and delay the eitms coming on to soon.
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Re: stall
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2017, 12:30:51 PM »

My wife's bike is having this exact same issue. 

We purchased two 2017 SESG's on April 1st and I rode her's for the first time yesterday.  Mine is not suffering from this issue, but on her's the throttle sticks a little at the very first 5 or 6 mm's and doesn't return completely sometimes.

I believe what you'all are describing is the same issue as in, the throttle is probably not completely closed sometimes when it is shut down.  Her's idles about 100 or 150 rpm lower than mine too.  I did stall it once and fortunately it was upright at the time.  Two other times I almost stalled it going around a corner at an intersection and one of those times came very close to dropping it.  You have to be ready to apply a good amount of throttle when this happens.

Never had a problem like this for the last five years riding our 2011 Limited's so this one definitely needs to go in and have the throttle checked.
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Re: stall
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2017, 09:00:48 PM »

I had this same thing happen to me on my 2016 CVO SG. I took it back to the dealer and they told me they had to reprogram it. But it happened a few times after that so I believe It definitely has something to do with the stock map. I purchased a PV2 and changed the map with an auto tune and so far so good I haven't had it happen since.


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Re: stall
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2017, 07:26:32 AM »

My bike now has 3500 miles on her and the stalling has no happened for over 2000 miles.
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Re: stall
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2017, 08:39:45 AM »

nothing new on this
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Re: stall
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2017, 01:31:12 PM »

We took my wife's bike in for this and the tech written resolution was:

"Unable to replicate issue.  Disassembled throttle grip assembly, cleaned and lubed friction points.  Problem resolved."

I was a little pissed off when I picked it up because I could replicate it every time I rode it.  After riding it I discovered that they had fixed the problem.  The problem in my opinion was the throttle sticking slightly open and the computer picking that up on shutdown / startup and setting the idle to that position of the grip throttle sensor.  That made it idle low when not stuck and casued sticking throttle problem at that barely open point.

Regardless, the clean and lube (dry lube) fixed the issue and her bike is running great.  Just FYI for anyone else having the same problem.
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