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[JCZ]

How is the dealer negligent in selling the owner a bike?.... no one does door to door motorcycle sales!

AFAIK a potential customer walks in the door (or inquires on-line) and that opens the door for communication.

You sit on it, play touchy-feely with it, decide if you want it or not and make the best deal you can, with all the stuff you want and ride it home.... (or wait for paperwork to be done and prep)

You quoted my post.  So......your first question can be answered by your counselor (attorney of record) of which there are a number of them on this forum that will be happy to take your money to answer that question.

The rest of my post was in jest, poking fun at Greg for missing a detail in the article, since he's an attorney.  Just twisted humor but keep coming back.

[JCZ]

Agreed JC.  Never did personal injury and don't practice now.  This is not so much a case as a lottery.  With $millions at stake, the lawyer has not much to lose and a great deal to gain if he can sucker an ignorant jury into feeling sorry for the woman.  The boyfriend / rider is obviously 100% at fault.  Eager to see how it plays out...  

BTW, there is no "presumption" the dealer said anything.  That was the testimony of the boyfriend.

Right, but then isn't most civil suits?
 
I know you no longer practice....was just funnin with you.  Hope you were chuckling along with me.

Knowing what society's general opinion and views of motorcycles and motorcyclists, I'm thinking the dealership and the MoCo are going to pay........to the woman.  The rider/owner not so much.

Two days of closing arguments......I can't help but wonder how long the trial was.  Of course the jury is still out on this one but has me just a bit curious to.

[grandpadoc]

So if my bike has a alarm icon thingy on the speedo and it didn't come with a alarm system installed, when it gets stolen...I get a new bike from the MoCo. This should be interesting    Doc

[mjb765]

I remember years ago some guy with and FLH got into an
accident, slid up the tank and lost his "personals".
He sued HD, because of the ignition switch took them out,
and he won!!!! From what I heard, he turned around and
bought another FLH! Go figure.

At least it can't happen again!

[BUCKNUT GREG]

At least it can't happen again!

Nope ... But that would make Him and the whole drama a B***H 

[porthole]

I don't see how the defense attorney hopes to win by not winning the jury. Reading what was in the article I think would tend to turn people against him.

[2018_FLTRXSE]

I know common sense doesnt apply in a court of law.. but a court of law should not be a court of stupids.

The operator of a motorcycle is responsible for himself, as well as his passenger, not even considering being mindful of the idiot cagers who are engrosed in makeup, papers, electronic devices, etc....

Unless his sales documents indicate he bought a bike with ABS and he had a bike without, I hardly see the responsibility the dealer has beyond the sale.

With that, a Motorcyclist that rode a bike for 12,000 miles and never used the ABS prior?.... (And was using the REAR brake at time of the incident)

Sounds like an inexperienced rider without the basic riding skills... Locked up the rear by panicking and as a result, tossed his passenger into the pavement.

never mind.. thats common sense and skills of observation speaking.. noe of those apply in court.

And as for the guy who lost his equipment.... then went out ands bought the same bike?.... DUH

[cvobiker]

I remember years ago some guy with and FLH got into an
accident, slid up the tank and lost his "personals".
He sued HD, because of the ignition switch took them out,
and he won!!!! From what I heard, he turned around and
bought another FLH! Go figure.

did he buy a Pink one  

[BBNITRO]

does anyone take the blame for there own actions anymore always someone elses fault and lets sue thats crap as far as im concerned does not have to say hot on the outside of coffee cup for me to know that its hot

[JCZ]

does anyone take the blame for there own actions anymore always someone elses fault and lets sue thats crap as far as im concerned does not have to say hot on the outside of coffee cup for me to know that its hot

Nope......standard operating excuse....."it's always Gary's fault".   

[99c5pilot]

Damn attorneys contact these people and brain wash them that its their god given right to sue people or manufactures. I know people that have sued but only when an attorney contacted them and convinced them that they were somehow wronged.....

[JCZ]

This thread seems to have taken on a life of it's own. 

We don't have any facts other than what some newspaper writer penciled out in a couple of minutes to beat the presses.  Nobody set in the courtroom or in the jury box to hear the case yet nearly all the posts have arm chair tried the case, formed an opnion and handed down unsubstantiated claims.

How about letting the jury do their job?  Nawww......arm chair quarterbacking off a little newspaper article is much more entertaining.

[2018_FLTRXSE]

This thread seems to have taken on a life of it's own. 

We don't have any facts other than what some newspaper writer penciled out in a couple of minutes to beat the presses.  Nobody set in the courtroom or in the jury box to hear the case yet nearly all the posts have arm chair tried the case, formed an opnion and handed down unsubstantiated claims.

How about letting the jury do their job?  Nawww......arm chair quarterbacking off a little newspaper article is much more entertaining.

Its more fun this way and ... you can be positive there are no experienced motorcyclists on the jury.

[hogasm]

Lady spills hot coffee in her lap and sues McDonalds....coffee too hot

Man leaves seat of motorhome while driving down road to make a PPJ sandwich.....no warning sticker about leaving seat while underway

Woman sues gun shop owner after being shot for selling another woman, who was having an affair with first womans husband,.......

No wonder everything costs so much in the USA.....go to court in china.....end up missing

[99c5pilot]

Great post Hogasm and I agree with you! Too many frivoulus lawsuits that we spend our money on that a jury has turned down. We don't see those but the ones you list here somehow made it through a jury.