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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2016, 11:47:16 AM »

Does anyone know if the compensator is the same as 2016?
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2016, 12:00:37 PM »


2016 Compensator part numbers:

      36500034A    COMPENSATOR ASSEMBLY
      83936-09A     SPRING PACK 

2017 Compensator part numbers:

      40100076    ENGINE SPROCKET KIT COMPENSATOR ASSEMBLY
      40100075    SPRING PACK

Diagrams show them to be similar in appearance, so I have no idea if any changes were actually made, but the part numbers did change.

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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2016, 03:21:53 PM »

Was talkin' to Jody last nite, and he told me he rode the first New 107" to arrive at Tilley's, yesterday.  He's impressed.  Especially of how quiet it was.  And the Crow's-foot Rocker Arms.  Ain't rode a 114 yet.  Later--HUBBARD
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2016, 05:50:22 PM »

Does anyone know if the compensator is the same as 2016?
Again from MoCo:
"For starters, we retuned the primary. The compensator bearings were changed, and the ramps changed. This is another place where we analyzed the crap out of it. We completely correlated our models with many vehicles. The goal was smooth torque in all conditions. Complementing that, the clutch was changed to an Assist and Slip Clutch. As you apply load, it pulls the clutch together to minimize spring pressure. Less lever effort per foot-pound that way. Whenever you up performance, you need more spring in the clutch. We went with a hydraulic Brembo activation system across the board on the Touring models to offset that. It’s better at the lever ergonomically.
Here’s another feature: In a trans-mission, you can get sound at a stop when it’s hot due to freewheeling gears and lash. We addressed that by adding an anti-backlash transmission gear. Now there’s another piece making the bike quiet."
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2016, 07:49:52 PM »

2016 Compensator part numbers:

      36500034A    COMPENSATOR ASSEMBLY
      83936-09A     SPRING PACK 

2017 Compensator part numbers:

      40100076    ENGINE SPROCKET KIT COMPENSATOR ASSEMBLY
      40100075    SPRING PACK

Diagrams show them to be similar in appearance, so I have no idea if any changes were actually made, but the part numbers did change.

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Any fitment information included with the new part numbers?
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2016, 08:08:57 PM »

Any fitment information included with the new part numbers?

Not yet, as best I can tell.  I've been looking for the 2017 Screamin' Eagle catalog online, to check this plus look at cam specs, but so far I haven't found a link on the Harley site or anywhere else.

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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2016, 07:02:06 AM »

The MY 2017 technical data has some interesting info. Anyone got a link to pdf download? There is one place I found it but they have different format, not downloadable and request no hotlinking.



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Bye Bye Twin Cam - Hello One Cam 107 & 114"
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2016, 11:23:49 AM »

Harley-Davidson just took the wraps off of its first all-new motorcycle engine in roughly 15 years. The single-cam Milwaukee-Eight 107 and 114 engines will replace the motorcycle company's twin-cam engine that debuted in 1999. The engine desperately needed to be updated, but the Milwaukee-Eight engine, which is the ninth motor in the company's Big Twin lineage, is a promising alternative.

The benefits of Harley's new Milwaukee-Eight engine reads like an exaggerated résumé: more power, better cooling, reduced vibration, better fuel economy, a better exhaust note, and a slimmer overall design. In other words, the new engine is better in every single way than the previous motor, says H-D. For those wondering, the new Milwaukee-Eight is not backwards compatible with older Harley motorcycles.

The engine comes in two sizes and three different variations – the Milwaukee-Eight 107 (107 cubic inches, or 1,750cc) and Milwaukee-Eight 114 (114 cubic inches, or 1,870cc). The new engines will be used in Harley-Davidson's touring and trike models. The smaller 107-cubic-inch engine will be utilized in the Harley-Davidson Street Glide, Road Glide, Electra Glide, Road King, and Freewheeler models. The larger 114-cubic-inch engine will power the Ultra Limited, Road Glide Ultra, and Tri Glide Ultra models.

The new engine retains the iconic 45-degree V-twin design, but ditches one cam for twice as many valves – each cylinder now has two intake valves and two exhaust valves – which is where the new moniker comes from. Thanks to a higher compression ratio, larger displacement, and the extra set of valves, Harley claims each engine produces 10-percent more torque than the motor it replaces. Despite the power increase, the new engines weigh the same as the old units, giving the motorcycles better acceleration figures and improved fuel economy, as well.

In traditional Harley fashion, the engines are mostly air-cooled, but have liquid-cooled heads, something the company introduced on its touring bikes in 2014. The twin-cooled 107 cubic-inch-engine has liquid-cooled cylinder heads for the Road Glide Ultra, Tri Glide Ultra, and Ultra Limited models. The larger, 114 cubic-inch-engine features liquid-cooled cylinder heads for the CVO Street Glide and CVO Limited models.

Harley-Davidson will launch the new engines that will be featured in the 2017 model year touring motorcycle lineup through a virtual tour of the motorcycle factory on Facebook Live, which will be a first for the company.
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2016, 02:03:07 PM »

Just got a chance to look in the 17 parts manual.   As new as it all is the new engine is OE with the old 99C lifter.
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2016, 05:22:19 PM »

I was talking to the GM at my local dealership. According to him, Harley is getting ready to lay down the law to the dealerships on the 2017 and up models for after market tuning devices. Basically, they are going to void the powertrain warranty if you go that route. Guess it was just a matter of time.
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2016, 05:57:43 PM »

well thats been the policy for many years - but they have all been looking the other way... eventually they will just void everything for any powertrain mod - and make folks lawyer up to try and do anything about it.

still - I'm going to keep riding my 07 - can't see any valid reason to get a different bike.
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Milwaukee Eight Revealed Detailed Footage
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2016, 11:14:39 AM »

Detailed First look at the new Engine
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Re: Milwaukee Eight Revealed Detailed Footage
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2016, 12:38:02 PM »

Detailed First look at the new Engine

Video was much better with the audio muted.  Images really worthwhile though.  Screen cap'd a few (no assumption of privacy when you throw in on Youtube and all citations to the poster and HD).




Oil cooling pathway.

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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2016, 12:38:44 PM »

Speaketh with forked (and no adjustment) rocker.
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Re: Milwaukee-Eight
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2016, 12:39:29 PM »

New crank with the gear for......
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