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[GC_Super]

Have noticed for several years mostly favorable comments concerning the Fullsac performance conversions on HD stock mufflers. Then a couple of months ago on another site, a fullsac dealer mentioned how good a donor muffler the 07 CVO's make. Since they are 4" and have a 1/4 in insulation around the outer core, they have a real nice mellow tone compared to the standard bagger muffler. Well, being one to try different mufflers, I scored a set of 07 CVO take offs to send to Steve at Fullsac. Turnaround time was 8 days and he does an excellent job.  Only a very slight color difference on the bottom front of the mufler where the new baffle is welded. Not noticable at all when mounted. I love the look of these mufflers, and now I love the sound also. He replaces the stock baffle/cat with a 2" louvered baffle that is about mid level in terms of decibels.  For comparaisons sake, they are much quieter than my V&H classics and about the same as my 4" Bassanni HO's, but to me, have a better tone due to the insulation. I've ridden about 200 miles since I put these on ( rain, rain, rain) and am very pleased. Excellent sound and again, I love the look. You also lose the inner portion that sticks out inside the tip.

 When I talked to Steve on the phone, there was a little doubt about the difference between the 06 and the 07 CVO muffler. When I recieved the 07's from a member here, I compared them to my 06's, and could find no difference in the appearance internally. The part number is the same also. The only thing that I could find that would indicate that these mufflers came off an 07 was that under the part number, it lists the 1800 motor, and on my 06's, it only mentions the 1690 motor. So, most likely, the mufflers are identical, it's just that fullsac hadn't done any 06's and he couldn't comfirm that they would work. Just an FYI for any of you that like the look of your stock RK or EG CVO mufflers and want better sound, I certainly recommend the fullsac conversion. Wish I could do a picture, but my dial up is just too slow. Cost is $199, plus your shipping.  Beats having them sit on the shelf.

[Hoist!]

Have noticed for several years mostly favorable comments concerning the Fullsac performance conversions on HD stock mufflers. Then a couple of months ago on another site, a fullsac dealer mentioned how good a donor muffler the 07 CVO's make. Since they are 4" and have a 1/4 in insulation around the outer core, they have a real nice mellow tone compared to the standard bagger muffler. Well, being one to try different mufflers, I scored a set of 07 CVO take offs to send to Steve at Fullsac. Turnaround time was 8 days and he does an excellent job.  Only a very slight color difference on the bottom front of the mufler where the new baffle is welded. Not noticable at all when mounted. I love the look of these mufflers, and now I love the sound also. He replaces the stock baffle/cat with a 2" louvered baffle that is about mid level in terms of decibels.  For comparaisons sake, they are much quieter than my V&H classics and about the same as my 4" Bassanni HO's, but to me, have a better tone due to the insulation. I've ridden about 200 miles since I put these on ( rain, rain, rain) and am very pleased. Excellent sound and again, I love the look. You also lose the inner portion that sticks out inside the tip.

 When I talked to Steve on the phone, there was a little doubt about the difference between the 06 and the 07 CVO muffler. When I recieved the 07's from a member here, I compared them to my 06's, and could find no difference in the appearance internally. The part number is the same also. The only thing that I could find that would indicate that these mufflers came off an 07 was that under the part number, it lists the 1800 motor, and on my 06's, it only mentions the 1690 motor. So, most likely, the mufflers are identical, it's just that fullsac hadn't done any 06's and he couldn't comfirm that they would work. Just an FYI for any of you that like the look of your stock RK or EG CVO mufflers and want better sound, I certainly recommend the fullsac conversion. Wish I could do a picture, but my dial up is just too slow. Cost is $199, plus your shipping.  Beats having them sit on the shelf.

That's a great report. Would you mind posting his contact info. You're right, why have the stock sitting take-offs on the shelf when you can have a set of usable set sitting there instead. Thanks. Hoist! 8-)

[GC_Super]

Here's the info:  meant to do it earlier, but I got busy. Damn work keeps gettting in the way of fun.


Steve George:   928-505-2912

[RJ749]

GC, for that money I think I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the post.

I had loaned my stock muffs to a guy and he broguht them back the other day.  I have the SE Pro which I do like, but it may make the bike a bit more stealth with the inserts and original look.

[lunker]

Thanks alot for the post.  I have been considering the same for my 07 SERK and have talked to Steve who is very knowledgeable and helpful.  I have about 1200 miles on my bike and will be going with the slipons/sert and then dyno at Durango Harley Davidson (Colorado).  I am looking for cooler running, improved torque, and slighty louder exhaust (Actually have come to kind of like the quiet stock sound after years of aftermarket pipes!).  

[RJ749]

http://www.fullsac.com/products_exhaust_recored.htm is the link to the site for additional info.

[GC_Super]

GC, for that money I think I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the post.

[highlight]I had loaned my stock muffs to a guy and he broguht them back the other day.  I have the SE Pro which I do like, but it may make the bike a bit more stealth with the inserts and original look.[/highlight]

Rjob, that's kinda the cool part.  I've already one comment from a guy that he couldn't believe I still had my stockers on. Then I fired it up.  

[copout221]

Great Post.. I didn't think the stock mufflers could be modified by anyone but I guess I was wrong. I initially wanted to retain the mufflers when I picked the bike up but couldn't stand the sound (lack of) and changed my mind after two seperate people said "When are you going to get rid of those potato shooters?" so I pulled them off and never went back.

[ultrafxr]

GC, great info, thanks.  I kinda enjoy the quiet of the stock exhaust on my jester as compared to the SE Pro Performance muffs I had on my '06.  Could take it a little louder but not too much.  This might be the ticket.

Did you / do you plan to add the Fullsac true dual headpipe kit?  Looks kinda interesting.  Just wonder if anyone has had any experience - good or bad - using it.

[GC_Super]

GC, great info, thanks.  I kinda enjoy the quiet of the stock exhaust on my jester as compared to the SE Pro Performance muffs I had on my '06.  Could take it a little louder but not too much.  This might be the ticket.

[highlight]Did you / do you plan to add the Fullsac true dual headpipe kit?[/highlight]  Looks kinda interesting.  Just wonder if anyone has had any experience - good or bad - using it.

I already have the V&H true duals.  The fullsac dual kit is kind of a poor mans duals, although most people say you can't see the patch when the heat shields are installed.  I'm going to try to post a couple of pics or jpeg files tomorrow.

[johnnymap]

Ultrafxr, I used the Fulsac true duel conversion before I put Rineharts on my 05 SEEG. Easy install, good fit.  The only problem was I had to make cut a length of heatshield to cover the area where the stock heatshield stopped before it got to the muffler.  I ran the conversion with the stock mufflers that I put the Kerker baffles in.  Did not like the sound, but I believe it was the baffles.  Had nothing to do with the conversion.

I would reccomend it.  Lot less expensive than buying V&H setup.  Not knocking V&H.  Just a less expensive way to go.

john

[GC_Super]

Gonna try a pic   [smiley=confused5.gif]

[GC_Super]

It worked. Another, but smaller.

[RedDevil]

It worked. Another, but smaller.

Great pics GC, thanks!!  I think I just may send my stockers off to Fulsac and then I will have a spare set of modifieds incase the V&H Ovals "go south" on me.
Cheers [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif],
Red

[grit]

Regarding the Fullsac CVO conversion, has anyone had their scooter on a Dyno before and after? The performance issue can't be based on sound or looks.  I'd like to see some real numbers before I make up my mind! It makes a difference also whether the stock head pipes are used or the Fullsac conversion is with true dual headers. Right now I'm riding around with one muffler different than the other.   The "center extension pipe" fell out of my left muffler and Harley hasn't be able to replace the warrentied muffler yet. Still back ordered. From this site it appears that the Rinehart system is the best, though expensive, but I'm not familiar enough with the "maps" to know which is best, per dyno tests. Any advice will be considered.