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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2007, 02:18:23 PM »
Quote from: TCnBham on June 20, 2007, 01:22:24 PM
AJ...better check again on having to remove the allen screw on the backrest before the seat can be removed, buddy.  Sure don't have to on mine...the backrest post bolts to a receiver internal to the Cobin seat pan, not to the bike...the whole thing will lift off easily, with just removing the rear fender screw.

I'll be. I stand corrected. I was wrong uh, mistaken.

In the amusement machine industry we has some speciality locks for some unique apications. I know that the gum ball machines use a screw type lock. Something along those lines may work. I'll check & see.

Again, sorry to you & cuthbertss  :oops:
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2007, 02:22:20 PM »
Quote from: cuthbertss on June 20, 2007, 01:28:12 PM
This is the identical problem for anything on the bike that comes off
tour paks, seats, backrests, helmets gloves, glasses....etc etc etc

y'all are making me paranoid!





Yeah, but people wouldn't steal a tour pak off a bike!
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2007, 02:45:58 PM »
Quote from: Twolanerider on June 20, 2007, 02:22:20 PM

Yeah, but people wouldn't steal a tour pak off a bike!

the only guy i know it happened to was... uh...  you?
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2007, 02:47:42 PM »
Quote from: hard10 on June 20, 2007, 02:18:23 PM
I'll be. I stand corrected. I was wrong uh, mistaken.

In the amusement machine industry we has some speciality locks for some unique apications. I know that the gum ball machines use a screw type lock. Something along those lines may work. I'll check & see.

Again, sorry to you & cuthbertss  :oops:

hey man..dont apologize...
once i thought i was wrong.. but I was mistaken :coolblue:

I only know this as i just put my freakin seat on !!!

no worries

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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2007, 03:03:27 PM »
Don't mean to cause parnoia (it does strike deep, however!).  I am not paranoid and really don't worry about such things.  But when at large biker events and bike is unattended, well, that is realy easy pickings.

Buddy of mine on Softail was eating breakfast at Waffle House in Nashville right near Opryland (not a bad part of town at all) and some scumbag opened his saddlebag and took his notebook computer (not much security in those leather bags I know) and took his entire T-Bag off his bike with all his belongings.

I agree that if someone really, really wants it they will get it but we can sure make it a little bit more difficult.
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2007, 03:09:53 PM »
The easiest method to secure the seat would be to use one of the "tamper resistant" machine screws available.  1/4-20 x 3/4" with either a Torx-Pin or Hex-Pin button head, or if you are really paranoid try the "Key-Rex" screw.  http://www.brycefastener.com/keyrex.htm

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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2007, 03:11:21 PM »
Quote from: grc on June 20, 2007, 03:09:53 PM
The easiest method to secure the seat would be to use one of the "tamper resistant" machine screws available.  1/4-20 x 3/4" with either a Torx-Pin or Hex-Pin button head, or if you are really paranoid try the "Key-Rex" screw.  http://www.brycefastener.com/keyrex.htm

Jerry

Wow Jerry, that is a fantastic suggestion.  Thanks.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2007, 03:13:05 PM »
Quote from: grc on June 20, 2007, 03:09:53 PM
The easiest method to secure the seat would be to use one of the "tamper resistant" machine screws available.  1/4-20 x 3/4" with either a Torx-Pin or Hex-Pin button head, or if you are really paranoid try the "Key-Rex" screw.  http://www.brycefastener.com/keyrex.htm

Jerry
See, I just knew someone would have the answer.  Thank you Jerry!
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2007, 03:16:09 PM »
Nice Jerry...will they give you half a dozen or so removal tools so I can have one in every place I'm likely to forget I put them?   ;)

I have not seen those fasteners before...excellent idear...
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2007, 03:23:55 PM »
Jerry-
You're the man.  Glad to have you back and posting and helping out as usual.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2007, 03:34:00 PM »
Called Bryce Mfg who makes these and found available thru McMaster Carr - www.mcmastercarr.com - catalog page 3043, part no 99355A311, $6.75 for pkg of 5.  Not the Key-Rex style but sill tamper resistant and look good to me.  Just placed order for 5 so I'll report when they come in.  Sure hope they come with 5 drivers but I bet there is only one driver per pakcage.  We'll see.  Here is description from catalog:

High-Security 18-8 Stainless Steel Button Head Socket Screws
   
   These tamper-resistant button head screws and installation bits have a unique configuration and are available only from our catalog. This limited availability prevents tampering that can occur with other more common security driven fasteners. Button heads provide a low profile head. Length is measured from under head. Class 3A thread fit. Made of 18-8 stainless steel, which offers excellent corrosion resistance. May be mildly magnetic. Rockwell hardness is B83. Minimum tensile strength is 80,000 psi.   
 
 
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2007, 03:40:33 PM »
Quote from: ultrafxr on June 20, 2007, 03:34:00 PM
Called Bryce Mfg who makes these and found available thru McMaster Carr - www.mcmastercarr.com - catalog page 3043, part no 99355A311, $6.75 for pkg of 5.  Not the Key-Rex style but sill tamper resistant and look good to me.  Just placed order for 5 so I'll report when they come in.  Sure hope they come with 5 drivers but I bet there is only one driver per pakcage.  We'll see.  Here is description from catalog:

High-Security 18-8 Stainless Steel Button Head Socket Screws
   
   These tamper-resistant button head screws and installation bits have a unique configuration and are available only from our catalog. This limited availability prevents tampering that can occur with other more common security driven fasteners. Button heads provide a low profile head. Length is measured from under head. Class 3A thread fit. Made of 18-8 stainless steel, which offers excellent corrosion resistance. May be mildly magnetic. Rockwell hardness is B83. Minimum tensile strength is 80,000 psi.   
 
 

Let us know how they work.


Geez, is there anything that mcmastercarr place DOESN'T have?
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2007, 03:45:37 PM »
related question....

anyone using the HD detachable locks?   are they worth a chit?   at 32 bucks they are kinda spendy
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2007, 03:53:46 PM »
Quote from: TCnBham on June 20, 2007, 03:40:33 PM
Let us know how they work.


Geez, is there anything that mcmastercarr place DOESN'T have?
Yeah, TMATs that work.
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Re: Security for saddle
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2007, 03:59:38 PM »
Quote from: cuthbertss on June 20, 2007, 03:45:37 PM
related question....

anyone using the HD detachable locks?   are they worth a chit?   at 32 bucks they are kinda spendy
Scott,

I'm using one on my detachable Tour-Pak, with the understanding that it won't stop a determined professional but it will sure slow down regular folks.  I only did this after reading about 2lane having his Tour-Pak stolen, normally I'm a trusting soul and don't even lock the lid of the T-P or secure my helmet.

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