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[the O`Fender]

Anyone ever used True-Track on their Harley. It's not cheap ($395 msrp) so before I go throwing that kind of money down I want to get some real world reviews. Please share any information you may have. Did install it yourself? Was it difficult to install? Does it eliminate that terrible rear wheel wobble (they call it rear steer)? Pictures of any type would be helpful!!! [smiley=cyclist.gif]
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http://www.true-track.com

[naitram]

check these threads:


http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=fltr_gen;action=display;num=1080279258

http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=eg_gen;action=display;num=1083421697

[mr_magoo]

Think V-Twin also had a tech article on installing one, very easy and good instructions.  And it does correct rear steer.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[SPIDERMAN]

Have been riding RK's since 95.  Crashed my 03 SERK. The used one I bought to replace it had a True-Track installed. At first I wasn't sure I liked it since my new(used) SERK did not feel like my old one or any other RK I'd ever owned. The first several hundred miles I locked up my brakes several times. With no give to the swingarm and rear wheel, the brakes are stronger. SInce I am headed to Daytona from Dago I figured I better get used to it or get rid of it. I have put about 1,500 miles on the bike in the past month on short hops up to La La Land and you couldn't get me to give it up. The bike tracks corners like a Dyna and doesn't drift around on the damn rain grooves we have here in SoCal. One in awhile a product comes along that delivers on the promises made. My opinion- - - - -This one does.

[HD2NV]

I put one on my 05 the best money I have spent on accessoriesfor any Harley NO MORE WOBBLE  [smiley=banana.gif]

[HARLEYBILL]

Sounds like a great solution to a universal problem,although I have a question for those who have installed already.
I use a HD Motorcycle Service Lift to store,clean and do some services on my '05 SEEG. The lift seems to be designed to fit perfectly (careful to align) inside the cross member. When used this way the bike is very stable even at the highest elevations of the lift. If you position the lifts rear arm just in front of the cross member it becomes unbalanced and seems that it wouldn't take much for the bike to fall backwards. I do have the Hog Ties but I would't trust them to hold the bike level at anything more than a inch or two off the floor.
If you are using a lift (frame) that will work with the True-Track, I would appreciate the advice. I like the frame lift becase of the ease of rotating the wheels and its compact size. [smiley=jalapeno.gif]

[hd-dude]

Sounds like a great solution to a universal problem,although I have a question for those who have installed already.
I use a HD Motorcycle Service Lift to store,clean and do some services on my '05 SEEG. The lift seems to be designed to fit perfectly (careful to align) inside the cross member. When used this way the bike is very stable even at the highest elevations of the lift. If you position the lifts rear arm just in front of the cross member it becomes unbalanced and seems that it wouldn't take much for the bike to fall backwards. I do have the Hog Ties but I would't trust them to hold the bike level at anything more than a inch or two off the floor.
If you are using a lift (frame) that will work with the True-Track, I would appreciate the advice. I like the frame lift becase of the ease of rotating the wheels and its compact size. [smiley=jalapeno.gif]

Check out the Ride STR8. It does the same thing as the true track but mounts differently and will allow you to use you lift. Look for info in the group buy area.

[syclone]

Sounds like a great solution to a universal problem,although I have a question for those who have installed already.
I use a HD Motorcycle Service Lift to store,clean and do some services on my '05 SEEG. The lift seems to be designed to fit perfectly (careful to align) inside the cross member. When used this way the bike is very stable even at the highest elevations of the lift. If you position the lifts rear arm just in front of the cross member it becomes unbalanced and seems that it wouldn't take much for the bike to fall backwards. I do have the Hog Ties but I would't trust them to hold the bike level at anything more than a inch or two off the floor.
If you are using a lift (frame) that will work with the True-Track, I would appreciate the advice. I like the frame lift becase of the ease of rotating the wheels and its compact size. [smiley=jalapeno.gif]

I run the True-Track on my 05 SEEG also. I found that with the tour pack and the bags removed ,I can position the rear leg of my lift just in front of the crossmember and it is very stable when lifted. I always tie the bike to the lift though ...whenever it's off the ground.

[HARLEYBILL]

Sure enough,when bags and tour pack removed it's a lot more stable. Obvious solution overlooked by me. I wanted to go the True-Track route-Thanks.

[Cvostu]

i just installed my True Track last week and took it out saturday for the big test,,     no wobble and it really seemed that it was doing what it says its supposed to do..  felt great at 85 and the rear steer,wobble thing was gone,     i love it and didnt notice anything different with the rear brake.   was perfectly normal to me.  the grooves in the road weren't an issue either..   can't believe how simple the istallation was also..  5 bolts from the transmission the 2 for the cross member,,   i'd recommend it to all.

[SPIDERMAN]

Just wanted to vent something on this issue. I've seen several products advertised that are knock-offs of the True-Track. Just enough of a difference to avoid a patent suit. That's total crap in my book; a legal form of ripping off True-Track. Pi$$es me off big time. I would like to ask that our site members not support these ripoff brands, but it's a free country and everyone can spend their money as they see fit.

I have been running the True-Track for a couple of years now and all of my riding buddies have them. We are all huge fans of the product and talk it up to anyone not using one. . Ease of installation, performance, quality, anyway you want to guage it, True Track is best. And the best part is if one of you wants to do the legwork as Beagle did recently, True Track will work with you on a group discount.

B B 

[Gone Fishin']

Anyone ever used True-Track on their Harley. It's not cheap ($395 msrp) so before I go throwing that kind of money down I want to get some real world reviews. Please share any information you may have. Did install it yourself? Was it difficult to install? Does it eliminate that terrible rear wheel wobble (they call it rear steer)? Pictures of any type would be helpful!!!

You may want to check this thread as well:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=21601.0

Ride Safely,
Louis

[Capo]

Hey B B,
Have you any thoughts to increased gear oil running temp with the Tru Track?

[SPIDERMAN]

Hey B B,
Have you any thoughts to increased gear oil running temp with the Tru Track?

I thought about this when I put the first one on my 03 SERK a couple years back, but never noticed any difference.

B B

[naitram]

wouldnt adding additional metal around the pan act as an additional heat sink

[SPIDERMAN]

wouldnt adding additional metal around the pan act as an additional heat sink

One would think so, but it doesn't appear to affect the oil temp. The "box" that goes over the oil pan is not a solid four sided affair anyway. I suspect some consideration was given to this since when I first saw this item it was indeed a full box that was shown.

B B

[sportygordy]

wouldn't adding additional metal around the pan act as an additional heat sink

I don't think the True-Track actually butts up to the trans pan, somone correct me if im wrong, their is an air pocked between the two. So i would think that the stock oil pan still does it's job effectively and probably with no notice to temp changes.

My wife rides a 2004 SERG Electra Glide (my old bike) and complains of wobble every time we get above 70 mph and in tight corning. Since this was my ride a few years ago, i know what she is talking about. I have not experienced any wobble at all on my 2008 UC, so the MOCO changes did something. I plan on installling the True Trac on her bike real soon. In fact, reading this forum, put a bug in me.. I'm going to order one up right now. I'll install it without telling her and let her put it to the test. Remember, she is a woman, so she complains about everthing. If the wobble disapears, we will know for sure. I'll post the results in a few weeks. We are planning a week trip up hwy one to Portland. Same rodes she complained about last year.

[SPIDERMAN]

I don't think the True-Track actually butts up to the trans pan, somone correct me if im wrong, their is an air pocked between the two. So i would think that the stock oil pan still does it's job effectively and probably with no notice to temp changes.

My wife rides a 2004 SERG Electra Glide (my old bike) and complains of wobble every time we get above 70 mph and in tight corning. Since this was my ride a few years ago, i know what she is talking about. I have not experienced any wobble at all on my 2008 UC, so the MOCO changes did something. I plan on installling the True Trac on her bike real soon. In fact, reading this forum, put a bug in me.. I'm going to order one up right now. I'll install it without telling her and let her put it to the test. Remember, she is a woman, so she complains about everthing. If the wobble disapears, we will know for sure. I'll post the results in a few weeks. We are planning a week trip up hwy one to Portland. Same rodes she complained about last year.

I've installed 6 of em and I assure you they do indeed "butt up" to the oil pan.

B B

[Cvostu]

connects right to the trans. pan         then to the cross member,.,,,,,   

[miker]

I used a

http://www.ridestr8.com/

Help nicely

[Coyote.]

Try switching your shocks out to Progressive 440's. Cures 98% of the high speed wobble issues and the bike corners much nicer, especially on rough roads. I think you would find you no longer need the tru track. I sure didn't..

[miker]

Try switching your shocks out to Progressive 440's. Cures 98% of the high speed wobble issues and the bike corners much nicer, especially on rough roads. I think you would find you no longer need the tru track. I sure didn't..

You gotta a good point, I just did it at the same time

[Coyote.]

You gotta a good point, I just did it at the same time

Yup, and even with Tru Track, you will want to change the shocks. Try the shocks first... It takes away all the "pucker" IMO! 

[sportygordy]

You gotta a good point, I just did it at the same time

To late, got a True Trac ordered up. I read a write up in one the bike mags awhile ago doing an install. The snap shots looked like True Trac didn't mate up to the trans pan surface. Know I'm a little concerned knowing it does but i guess no one is seeing heat issues. The 440 seem like a good idea too but I'm curious, don't they add a little more lift in aggressive mode over stock height?

[Coyote.]

Just like all performance suspensions, I think you will have less sag to start with. I ride pretty aggressively considering it's a bagger. All I can tell you is there is no comparison stock suspension with the 440's. If you ride easy, the stock stuff will be fine. I run curves and corners 20-25 over the posted speed. Before it was an issue, with the 440's not at all. The are stiffer though, but the rear wheel does stay in contact with the pavement.

[sportygordy]

wouldnt adding additional metal around the pan act as an additional heat sink

Awhile back there was discussion about True Track causing heat temps to raise because it blocked the cooling fins on the trans pan. Yesterday I saw an Electraglide with one of these installed by Terry Componets. www.terrycomp.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProdID=81
This looks like a True Track replica but they corrected the cooling issue. I just installed the True Track on my wife's bike and wish I would have seen this option before I went with the True Track. Beside the cooling issues, the Terry Componet version comes in silver to match silver coated engines. The black True Track really stands out on the silver coated trans. I plan to correct this with a powder coat job soon and there goes another $100 buck.
Anyone try the Terry Componets version?

[Talon]

There was also that guy TWR with a new one that mounts more like the RIDESTR8, I couldn't find his post. Mounts in place of the right side passenger peg mount, runs behind the pan so it won't interfer with you jack, or rub on speed bumps. I know a few guys had bought his product, but that's it.

[REGGAB]

There was also that guy TWR with a new one that mounts more like the RIDESTR8, I couldn't find his post. Mounts in place of the right side passenger peg mount, runs behind the pan so it won't interfer with you jack, or rub on speed bumps. I know a few guys had bought his product, but that's it.

Here you go.  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=21208.0  I have this setup, and I love it!  The bike goes where I tell it to go.  It's barely noticable in appearance, but when you first install and ride with it, the difference is dramatic.  I'm certain True Track and Ride Str8 are good devices, but the TWR device is GREAT! 

[sportygordy]

I have this setup, and I love it! 

Thats a nice options too, what is the cost of that one? Terry Componest runs $390.

[REGGAB]

Thats a nice options too, what is the cost of that one? Terry Componest runs $390.

Tracy was selling them here for $320 I believe.

[SPIDERMAN]

I have had the True Track on both my 03 SERK Elvis and on LD my 07 Faux CVO Road Glide and I am a HUGE fan. So far as the issue of the oil pan connector being a "heat sink "  I have not seen any evidence of this. Both bikes ran the same relative oil temps before and after the True Track was installed. As to the other similar items for sale. It is my opinion and only mine that they are all more or less copies of the True Track design. I believe the True Track was the original and others saw the potential and made enough changes to cover patent laws.Some enough so that one could argue they are not copies of the True Track (debateable IMO)  A couple seem like downright ripoffs and it's beyond me how they avoid being sued, but such is the free market. Maybe I'm old fashioned or perhaps just weird, but I don't believe in supporting people who copy other peoples ideas. Like I said, that's just a foible of mine. As such I strongly urge anyone looking to improve the handling of their Harley-Davidson motorcycle to buy the True Track. You won't be disappointed.

B B

[sportygordy]

You mean kind of like S&S,,,,, now they got away with murder..

[Hoist!]

You mean kind of like S&S,,,,, now they got away with murder..

Somebody had to make these things go fast!!!

Hoist!

[skreminegul07]

I have had the True Track on both my 03 SERK Elvis and on LD my 07 Faux CVO Road Glide and I am a HUGE fan. So far as the issue of the oil pan connector being a "heat sink "  I have not seen any evidence of this. Both bikes ran the same relative oil temps before and after the True Track was installed. As to the other similar items for sale. It is my opinion and only mine that they are all more or less copies of the True Track design. I believe the True Track was the original and others saw the potential and made enough changes to cover patent laws.Some enough so that one could argue they are not copies of the True Track (debateable IMO)  A couple seem like downright ripoffs and it's beyond me how they avoid being sued, but such is the free market. Maybe I'm old fashioned or perhaps just weird, but I don't believe in supporting people who copy other peoples ideas. Like I said, that's just a foible of mine. As such I strongly urge anyone looking to improve the handling of their Harley-Davidson motorcycle to buy the True Track. You won't be disappointed.

B B

My father was involved in one of these issues.  It would put you out of business as a small business owner in legal fees to sue for patent violation.  These suits go on for years.  If you are going against a large corporation with lots of lawyers, the standard defense is to show that you (Plaintiff) should not have been given a patent in the first place.  Government Patent Office searches are often shabby and careless when looking to see if your idea has already been filed.  Most of the time a well funded private search finds something very similar in some that way the nullifies your patent.  Don't forget that as soon as you file a patent application, the design is public record.  If someone can get your product to market before you, they make the money.  In today's society, its smarter to get the product out on the market at the same time patenting the design, once you've done a reasonable investigation of existing designs.  Being right doesn't mean you win.

[brewnut56]

check these threads:


http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=fltr_gen;action=display;num=1080279258

http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=eg_gen;action=display;num=1083421697

These links dont work??   

[Chief]

These links dont work??   

Being 4 years old, I don't doubt it. Four software years is like 52 human years.

[Talon]

There's a feature article in the July issue of American Iron on the True-Track. Just in case you want more info. Also some good info on cams.

[Cvostu]

i've had mine for 4 months now and i wouldn't want to have a bike without one.  the true track works great and i'd recommend it to everyone.don't miss the rear steer at all and just makes the bike feel like it handles like it's on rails.   it's a great item to have!

[SPIDERMAN]

i've had mine for 4 months now and i wouldn't want to have a bike without one.  the true track works great and i'd recommend it to everyone.don't miss the rear steer at all and just makes the bike feel like it handles like it's on rails.   it's a great item to have!

I agree 100%

True-track is the one, the original and still the best

But hey, it's a free market ecomony so buy whatever you choose

Wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings

B B
 

[skreminegul07]

Rode the dragon and survived.  I'll give some credit to True-Track.