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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2006, 11:23:49 AM »

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IMHO   NO!!!!!

The last trailer I had (before the toy hauler) was a 8.5 X14. I held two SEEG's with no problem. Even at 8.5 in width they can still touch if they start to move. I use ratchet straps only now with soft straps and Condor Wheel Chocks.

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I have to agree with Dawg. . . .  

Two things, they are close enough to the wall with the handle bars it leaves little room for maneuvering or strapping them down and you want room to be able to easily get around them and swing a leg up.  No question the wheel chocks will help but I would go for the width if it were me.  I also borrowed an 8.5 x 14 from a buddy for a long trip and it worked great.

Also, why limit yourself to the bikes on the width.  If you decide to sell the trailer the wider one will have more buyer interest than the narrow one.  Consider as well that in the 14' you get a dual axle with Featherlite which IMHO is a big plus for handling/stability.  


I’m going to jump on the wider is better bandwagon here with Dawg & R. A little more width for ease of loading and unloading as well as safe margin for movement along with a tandem axle is essential. Obviously what you will be pulling it with is also a factor. Friends of mine and I pull a 22 x 8 with rooftop air and it holds four dressers comfortably including our gear. Good wheel chocks such as the Bike Pro or (my preference) the Condor are also a necessity along with smartly placed tie down points.

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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2006, 01:34:13 PM »

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I can tell you from expereince that you may be able to get two full dressers in a 6' wide trailer but I wouldn't put my bike in there.  Not unless you want them to rub.  7' foot has to be a minimum.
Thanks for the info. [smiley=2vrolijk_21.gif] As I said it was an advertisement I read about being able to fit two dressers in a six-foot wide trailer.  [smiley=oops.gif] This just proves several things my parents told me when I was young.....

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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2006, 01:50:24 PM »

This is a great site!
Everyone subscribes to the bigger is better theory.
My 8x20 will haul all the bikes.
Try parking that big thing behind the powerstroke at Johnathans.
Not any fun!
For the minimum in size but the maximum in carrying capacity I still recomend a 7x12 for two dressers. And the lowhauler style still fits in the garage.

As we all know "size does matter".
If a man says that is not true then he probably has a tiny trailer.

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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2006, 03:47:36 PM »

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My 8x20 will haul all the bikes.
Try parking that big thing behind the powerstroke at Johnathans.
Not any fun!
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Chip,
You didn't do badly at all parking that truck/trailer. [smiley=2vrolijk_21.gif] You had a harder time convincing the clerk that you were taking/paying for two rooms w/those that were in your group/truck and deserved two parking spaces.

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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2006, 04:14:03 PM »

It's a trade off on the single/tandem axle thing...have had both on boat trailers.  If you need to manuveur in tight quarters, or worse, by hand, the tandem is a b!!ch unless you can get one set of wheels off the ground.  Also, the bigger the trailer, the more of a BAT you must have to pull it.  
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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2006, 04:59:15 PM »

Dakota,
I have a Haulmark Low Hauler 6X12 for my SEEG. It is perfect for one bike and I can easily move it around my garage because it is a single axle.  I can set it up for two bikes and have had an Ultra in it along with my SEEG.  All I had to do was take one saddle bag off each bike.  I would not want to do it every day but in a pinch it can be done.  I was going to get a 7x 12 but it was simply too heavy.
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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2006, 12:10:44 PM »

I have a "modified" Thule bike hauler.
It is 6.5' wide by 12', with a V nose.
6.5 is the minimum for 2 dressers.


The trailer came with the recessed chocks, I don't like those chocks, there is little room to "lean" the bike over after you get it in the trailer. And with the recessed chocks and lowered SEEG's, it is difficult to get the rigs set up. In fact you can't lean a lowered dresser over on the left side without being very careful of the faring. And it barely stands up on the stand, not enough lean. The recess is about a 1.5".

You can put 2 dressers in the trailer for travel, but you can't put 2 in on kickstands, which is something we did in Maggie Valley with our housemate Dick Tate. Had to take off one of my saddlebags and the tourpak, which gave me plenty of room. We were using my trailer as a garage.

I am currently using the Bike Pro chock. Works great, drive in step off, done. And rather then use the available "tie down" plates I drilled holes in the chock itself, eliminates the trip hazard when the chock is removed. The advantage to this is that you are strapping the wheel down and allowing the suspension to do it's thing. 2 bike pros would allow two bike to easily be stored overnight (without taking the bags off).

But if you want to use it like a garage with 2 bikes and you don't want to move the back bike out to get to the front bike then you need an 8' trailer

http://www.wikco.com/bpro1.html

I didn't do it yet, but when I am done I will have two Bike Pro chocks and 3 mounting plates in the trailer.

My mods to the trailer were minimal but one was substantial.

Look here for some pics info on mine and others here on the site.

http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1153247249/25#25

I ordered a Thule 3000 series low profile v-nose bike trailer. The advantage to this is that it has a drop axle and is very low overall height. This also makes for a low entry step and a "not as steep" ramp. The disadvantage is that there is only 5'6" of head room inside. So, I ordered it with a 6" extension in height, along with a door height increase, giving a full 6' of interior height.

There is another thread with all my trailer stuff here somewhere.

The Thule is an all aluminium, smooth skin (no rivets) one piece aluminium roof trailer.

Something to consider. The 12' comes with a single axle. Brakes are a $400 option. The 2 axle option, which comes with brakes and more then doubles the rated capacity is a $700 option, which is what I have. That is pretty much standard with most trailers.

With the gas door on the side I can reach the tank of a bike in the center.

The trailer tows like a dream and is very smooth riding. Of course I am towing with a 06 GMC diesel (not some wimpy Furd diesel truck here).

My trailer is probably the smallest you would want for 2 dressers. I will probably never haul 2, but I wanted that option and I did not want an oversize trailer hanging around my yard.

There are a lot of naysayers when it comes to trailering your bike, but, had it not been for the trailer, my wife would not have made it Maggie Valley. And with the 2 days of heavy rain we had I still had fun, I put almost 500 miles on the truck driving all around in the rain, some off roading too.



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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2006, 12:24:19 PM »

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I have a "modified" Thule bike hauler.
It is 6.5' wide by 12', with a V nose.
6.5 is the minimum for 2 dressers.


The trailer came with the recessed chocks, I don't like those chocks, there is little room to "lean" the bike over after you get it in the trailer. And with the recessed chocks and lowered SEEG's, it is difficult to get the rigs set up. In fact you can't lean a lowered dresser over on the left side without being very careful of the faring. And it barely stands up on the stand, not enough lean. The recess is about a 1.5".

You can put 2 dressers in the trailer for travel, but you can't put 2 in on kickstands, which is something we did in Maggie Valley with our housemate Dick Tate. Had to take off one of my saddlebags and the tourpak, which gave me plenty of room. We were using my trailer as a garage.

I am currently using the Bike Pro chock. Works great, drive in step off, done. And rather then use the available "tie down" plates I drilled holes in the chock itself, eliminates the trip hazard when the chock is removed. The advantage to this is that you are strapping the wheel down and allowing the suspension to do it's thing. 2 bike pros would allow two bike to easily be stored overnight (without taking the bags off).

But if you want to use it like a garage with 2 bikes and you don't want to move the back bike out to get to the front bike then you need an 8' trailer

http://www.wikco.com/bpro1.html

I didn't do it yet, but when I am done I will have two Bike Pro chocks and 3 mounting plates in the trailer.

My mods to the trailer were minimal but one was substantial.

Look here for some pics info on mine and others here on the site.

http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1153247249/25#25

I ordered a Thule 3000 series low profile v-nose bike trailer. The advantage to this is that it has a drop axle and is very low overall height. This also makes for a low entry step and a "not as steep" ramp. The disadvantage is that there is only 5'6" of head room inside. So, I ordered it with a 6" extension in height, along with a door height increase, giving a full 6' of interior height.

There is another thread with all my trailer stuff here somewhere.

The Thule is an all aluminium, smooth skin (no rivets) one piece aluminium roof trailer.

Something to consider. The 12' comes with a single axle. Brakes are a $400 option. The 2 axle option, which comes with brakes and more then doubles the rated capacity is a $700 option, which is what I have. That is pretty much standard with most trailers.

With the gas door on the side I can reach the tank of a bike in the center.

The trailer tows like a dream and is very smooth riding. Of course I am towing with a 06 GMC diesel [highlight](not some wimpy Furd diesel truck here).[/highlight]

My trailer is probably the smallest you would want for 2 dressers. I will probably never haul 2, but I wanted that option and I did not want an oversize trailer hanging around my yard.

There are a lot of naysayers when it comes to trailering your bike, but, had it not been for the trailer, my wife would not have made it Maggie Valley. And with the 2 days of heavy rain we had I still had fun, I put almost 500 miles on the truck driving all around in the rain, some off roading too.




Damn Porthole,
Must be tough going thru life not knowing whats best. ::)
And to top it all you can't spell! ;)

Although a great choice of bikes ! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]


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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2006, 12:27:52 PM »

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Damn Porthole,
And to top it all you can't spell! ;)



Ah come on Chip, I used the spell checker that I found last year and posted here (for Google) and it said I spelled everything just perfect  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

You must be using the wrong checker  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2006, 12:29:42 PM »

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Must be tough going thru life not knowing whats best. ::)


BTW, have you gotten all the bugs worked out of the TM bike? I haven't been around much lately so I am not up to date.
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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2006, 12:37:32 PM »

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BTW, have you gotten all the bugs worked out of the TM bike? I haven't been around much lately so I am not up to date.

Duane
Good job on the spelling on this post. ;)
Actually the Frontier motor is in pieces all over the country for a little massaging.
Gotta keep up with SE06. :(
All other issues resolved.

Well actually, I think I will try another brand of hidden antenna.
But thats a small problem.

Great looking trailer BTW! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Do they have a website?
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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2006, 12:40:49 PM »

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Good job on the spelling on this post. ;)

Well actually, I think I will try another brand of hidden antenna.
But that's a small problem.

Great looking trailer BTW! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Do they have a website?

Ah, redeemed?

I gave up on the hidden antenna, have a short one back on the bracket.

http://www.thuletrailers.com/motorcycle_trailers.asp

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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2006, 12:44:30 PM »

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Ah, redeemed?

I gave up on the hidden antenna, [highlight]have a short one back on the bracket.[/highlight]
http://www.thuletrailers.com/motorcycle_trailers.asp


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Thanks for the website.

That short black antenna is probably best.
When Otis was going to the beach with us he brought me one of those antenna's.
Worked perfectly on the SEEG.
Will probably go to that!

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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2006, 07:46:55 PM »

With a 7X14 V nose trailer, is it possible to put 2 baggers in staggered and let's say a Fatboy in the rear between them if needed?
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Re: Advice on an Enclosed Trailer
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2006, 07:57:33 PM »

I have a Haulmark 6X12, and it works very well.  I installed flush mount D-rings in the floor and a home made wheel chock made of steel tube.  I use hog ties on the front and tie down at the union of the engine guard and frame, and hog ties on the rear and tie down at the passenger footboard supports.  I also have two additional front tiedown points which I use to tie from the rider footboard supports.
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