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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2013, 10:16:54 PM »

Yup I know you got those 2 there, figured if things would fall in line for you that you would already be well on your way to getting them finished.

Looking forward to seeing how they came out.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2013, 12:36:44 AM »

Just Finished up a 124" Crate Motor
09 FLH
66mm Throttle Hog
S&S Stealth AC with taller Element
5.3 SE Injectors
D&D Boarzilla

. Looks like it runs strong  :cucumber:
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2013, 03:48:24 PM »

So would the low compression (10.2) with the 585 cam be a good choice for a RG touring bike. Then I'll need to decide what to do with the procharger?

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2013, 10:30:25 AM »

Sure going with the low compression engine would be a great choice. I have not use the 585 cam with a S/C but overall it is not out of the question as it has enough duration . I feel that since you have the 585 give it a try if it does not work well go from there. I would think that low boost with the 585 cam should put you in the high 180 range with ease.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2013, 10:42:50 AM »

I was just asking because that is one of the cam choices offered by S&S. Looks like my motor (built 124 with Tman's 662-2) is trashed. Not sure what happened but maybe some stuff on the cam side and the heads are good. So I need a motor for the bike. Got any suggestions where I can get a good price on a crate 124 of have someone to build it? Not sure if I going to use the procharger or not.
Its going into a 09 SERG with some custom frame work. Looking for lots of usable torque for 2 up touring but the prochager is cool. Just not sure how reliable it is. Just bought the bike and put a few miles and it blew up.

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2013, 10:53:11 AM »

the crate engine is a very good choice, adding a pro charger will up the power levels however nothing in the area that I would call low end tq. 
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2013, 11:27:04 AM »

So does that mean that trying to build a 124 touring motor with a procharger is a bad idea?

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2013, 11:50:37 AM »

I was just asking because that is one of the cam choices offered by S&S. Looks like my motor (built 124 with Tman's 662-2) is trashed. Not sure what happened but maybe some stuff on the cam side and the heads are good. So I need a motor for the bike. Got any suggestions where I can get a good price on a crate 124 of have someone to build it? Not sure if I going to use the procharger or not.
Its going into a 09 SERG with some custom frame work. Looking for lots of usable torque for 2 up touring but the prochager is cool. Just not sure how reliable it is. Just bought the bike and put a few miles and it blew up.

BigLew

FWIW
One of my club members had the 124 with turbo on his SERK.....blew it up between Vegas and Mesquite.
My 113 (detuned) ran just fine on the same trip. We were running just about 80-85 most of the way.
IMHO, his could not handle the heat in the desert.
We could not always get good gas.
If you are thinking touring......KISS.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2013, 12:08:35 PM »

I think the procharger would be fine with the intercooler and a good tune. just doesnt make a lot of torque at 3,000 rpms!

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2013, 02:12:03 PM »

Yes it would run fine if you kept it off boost with crap gas. Or just use a meth system,... we have been working with Snow systems for a long time, on bikes and automotive and along with diesels. Last turbo upgrade we did the meth system made a huge change in over all power , ease of tuning and it was not even close to being fuel picky.  Always options . :)
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2013, 02:18:26 PM »

Yea I understand that. I've done a few cars with the chargers. My concerns are czn I get enough torque at 3k to make a decient touring bike with the blower on it. Guess I'm looking at the best of both worlds. Dependable touring bagger that I can also from time to time have some fun with. Is that possible?

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #71 on: July 18, 2013, 09:43:56 AM »

Yes I do feel that it is something that can be done..., provided you can keep boost low and not turn it into a street strip style build. You can have something that will be a very nice mix between the two.
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #72 on: July 18, 2013, 05:40:42 PM »

Anyone compare the Tman 662-2 with the 640 that comes in the 124 crate motor? I ran the 662-2 in a 124 man it had a great lick and pulled out the top especially when we put the charger on it. But if I can get 135-40 ft/lbs in the 3-4500 range I might leave the blower off. Its cool but a lot of trouble. So how will those cams compare and sound?
Bike had custom pipes on it . I think it started with cycle shack's 2" head pipe. wonder if they will work

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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2013, 05:45:39 PM »

Look at the dyno sheet I posted we have another 3 just completed and 3 more to get going on. The 640 does very well and has a very broad power curve when matched with the correct items.  ;D
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Re: S&S crate 124 engine dyno
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2013, 05:55:19 PM »

I saw that, just wondering how it would compare with the 662-2 because that is what I had in the last 124?

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