Topic: LED Is there possibly a new option? (Read 10358 times)

nu_glider · « **on:** August 21, 2012, 09:48:24 PM »

Based on the pictures I have seen of the new 2013 Road Glide Custom CVO the MoCo now has an LED headlight option of its own. It is exactly what I have been waiting for. A MoCo solution that looks great and should be a great improvement over the stock lighting that should be a direct replacement for many Road Glides. So this morning I called my parts guru at our local dealer and asked him to do some research. Find the part numbers, pricing and any other available information. I'm sure this is will take some time to surface but I have waited over a year for this day.

GregKhougaz · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:58:56 PM »

There are 2 options now from Harley Davidson. Black and Chrome: $699. There are a few threads here in the Road Glide Custom, SERG and Electronic Toys ans Gadgets boards about them. You can also see them now on the Harley website. Employees at the dealership are usually the last to know.

SBB · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:25:35 PM »

Quote from: nu_glider on August 21, 2012, 10:19:44 PM

If I understand your statement there is currently a MoCo solution to add LED headlights on their website or in the P&A catalog.

If I'm not mistaken there is a SEARCH function on this site and the Motor Company site.
Try it, it works, at both places.
That's how I found this,
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448779926&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309042516&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309042516&locale=en_US&locale=en_US&bmUID=1345560211011&bmLocale=en_US.

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nu_glider · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:56:37 PM »

I appreciate your help, apparently you're just much better at this than me. I'm headed to my parts counter to stand in line to place my order.

motor1 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2012, 11:13:33 PM »

Unfortunately headlight is not being released until October.

faceracer · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2012, 11:50:56 PM »

Quote from: SBB on August 21, 2012, 10:25:35 PM

If I'm not mistaken there is a SEARCH function on this site and the Motor Company site.
Try it, it works, at both places.
That's how I found this,
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448779926&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309042516&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309042516&locale=en_US&locale=en_US&bmUID=1345560211011&bmLocale=en_US.

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That link is for the black model. There is a Chrome one also. Here is a link. Face

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448779925&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302491575&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302491575&locale=en_US&locale=en_US&bmUID=1345607347743&bmLocale=en_US

nu_glider · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2012, 10:57:34 PM »

thanks again, October is not that far off, compared to how long everyone has been discussing this.

nu_glider · « **Reply #7 on:** August 26, 2012, 12:57:04 PM »

Dealer attempted to order for me and it is BO until Oct '12 just as stated. I will wait patiently, seems like Lake Shore HD has the best pricing but did not list the Black and Chrome model yet.

Jerry/MD · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2012, 11:23:36 PM »

Quote from: GregKhougaz on August 21, 2012, 09:58:56 PM

There are 2 options now from Harley Davidson. Black and Chrome: $699. There are a few threads here in the Road Glide Custom, SERG and Electronic Toys ans Gadgets boards about them. You can also see them now on the Harley website. Employees at the dealership are usually the last to know.

I gotta say I am SHOCKED at the price! Sorry, I just can't justify it.

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2012, 10:13:13 PM »

I just replaced the MoCo originals with PIAA replacement bulbs. They have excellent output without crashing the bank account. They even allow you to select different color range for the bulbs. Be sure to purchase H4 bulbs rated in the 60/55 Watt range. (They will have the output equivalency of a bulb rated at 135/125 Watts.

The cost on Amazon was approx $37.00 each. After installation and reaiming the headlights, I am very happy with the output. I am also happy I didn't have to spend about $600 more for LED headlamps.

BTW . . . There were no modifications needed for this install.

OBB · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2012, 06:38:59 AM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 15, 2012, 10:13:13 PM

I just replaced the MoCo originals with PIAA replacement bulbs. They have excellent output without crashing the bank account. They even allow you to select different color range for the bulbs. Be sure to purchase H4 bulbs rated in the 60/55 Watt range. (They will have the output equivalency of a bulb rated at 135/125 Watts.

The cost on Amazon was approx $37.00 each. After installation and reaiming the headlights, I am very happy with the output. I am also happy I didn't have to spend about $600 more for LED headlamps.

BTW . . . There were no modifications needed for this install.

X2 on this. When I bought my sergu used back in April it already had these installed. Riding next to my buddy at night (sergu also) there's no comparison. I would say they give me as much light as the HIDs I have in all of our trucks. Money well spent.

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:48:57 AM »

Thanks OhioBellBoy . . .

BTW . . . Has anyone ever told you that you have quite possibly one of the finest motorcycles that HD has ever built. Of course I am not prejudiced in any way shape or form

porthole · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:56:59 AM »

Quote from: SBB on August 21, 2012, 10:25:35 PM

If I'm not mistaken there is a SEARCH function on this site and the Motor Company site.
Try it, it works, at both places.
That's how I found this,
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Your contradicting yourself there chipper.

Don't you remember what it was like when you first started to search for things and they didn't always pop right up

Sometimes it is a bit difficult to find the answer you are looking for when we have 1,040,549 Posts in 60,933 Topics by 18,278 Members

SBB · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:57:16 AM »

I have waited this long, a few more weeks will pass soon.
I like the look of the Harley LED's.
Have two sets on order.

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SBB · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:59:15 AM »

Quote from: porthole on September 16, 2012, 10:56:59 AM

Don't you remember what it was like when you first started to search for things and they didn't always pop right up

Sometimes it is a bit difficult to find the answer you are looking for when we have 1,040,549 Posts in 60,933 Topics by 18,278 Members

YUP!
Brian was right!

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Twolanerider · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:08:10 AM »

Quote from: porthole on September 16, 2012, 10:56:59 AM

Sometimes it is a bit difficult to find the answer you are looking for when we have 1,040,549 Posts in 60,933 Topics by 18,278 Members

Just think, it'd be almost twice that much if MFG hadn't left the way he did or if Howie had stayed

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SBB · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:12:03 AM »

Quote from: Twolanerider on September 16, 2012, 11:08:10 AM

Just think, it'd be almost twice that much if MFG hadn't left the way he did or if Howie had stayed .

Good point!

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AZMike · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2012, 05:29:12 PM »

I wonder if the kit includes instructions on how to make the garage door opener work with the new LED's installed.
I'm assuming that, similar to HID lights, these LED's draw a lot less power than the standard halogen lights so they would need a workaround for the opener just like what's needed if you replace the stock bulbs with HID's.

gpopvet · « **Reply #18 on:** September 28, 2012, 04:27:29 AM »

Just left Brian's Harley Davidson new LED's amazing.

OBB · « **Reply #19 on:** September 28, 2012, 05:14:47 AM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 16, 2012, 10:48:57 AM

Thanks OhioBellBoy . . .

BTW . . . Has anyone ever told you that you have quite possibly one of the finest motorcycles that HD has ever built. Of course I am not prejudiced in any way shape or form

Seems I've heard that before

I'd love to see the output of the LEDs but I'm not sure I'm sold on the looks of them. For that kind of money, I could buy plenty of the PIAA bulbs for mine. JMO.

nu_glider · « **Reply #20 on:** September 29, 2012, 09:06:04 PM »

GPOPVET -- First I want to say they look awesome. I was at my dealer today and they had two sets of the Chrome and Black on the wall ready to sell and install. My dealership has not installed a set yet, how many hours labor did they charge you to install? I got hold of the first couple of pages and saw that the outer fairing has to be removed and some minor modifications done. It looks like you have the Black and Chrome kit.

So tell us, how did they do at night?

gpopvet · « **Reply #21 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:07:58 AM »

Much wider view, my Ultra had them but not as bright. Labor was 1 hour taking fairing off not a big job for Harley mechanics.

Robmay · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:18:09 AM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 15, 2012, 10:13:13 PM

I just replaced the MoCo originals with PIAA replacement bulbs. They have excellent output without crashing the bank account. They even allow you to select different color range for the bulbs. Be sure to purchase H4 bulbs rated in the 60/55 Watt range. (They will have the output equivalency of a bulb rated at 135/125 Watts.

The cost on Amazon was approx $37.00 each. After installation and reaiming the headlights, I am very happy with the output. I am also happy I didn't have to spend about $600 more for LED headlamps.

BTW . . . There were no modifications needed for this install.

Is this the one?

http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-10904-H4-Intense-White/dp/B000MG40QW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349011011&sr=8-1&keywords=piaa+light+bulbs

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #23 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:22:55 AM »

Quote from: Robmay on September 30, 2012, 09:18:09 AM

Is this the one?

http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-10904-H4-Intense-White/dp/B000MG40QW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349011011&sr=8-1&keywords=piaa+light+bulbs

Yes, this is the one I installed. Actually, x2.

Robmay · « **Reply #24 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:01:22 PM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 30, 2012, 11:22:55 AM

Yes, this is the one I installed. Actually, x2.

Just ordered x 2 from Amazon. I will try these before $700 + install on the HD LED's. Thanks!

OBB · « **Reply #25 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:35:39 PM »

Quote from: Robmay on September 30, 2012, 06:01:22 PM

Just ordered x 2 from Amazon. I will try these before $700 + install on the HD LED's. Thanks!

You're gonna love them. At only 10% of the cost of LEDs, well worth the light output. Might not have the "cool factor" but the savings on these will allow you to spend it elsewhere.

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #26 on:** September 30, 2012, 10:19:26 PM »

Quote from: Robmay on September 30, 2012, 06:01:22 PM

Just ordered x 2 from Amazon. I will try these before $700 + install on the HD LED's. Thanks!

TIP . . . After installing the PIAAs, grab a buddy to help and check/adjust your headlight alignment. Mine came from the factory aiming pretty low. You will definitely get much better coverage with the headlights properly aligned.

Robmay · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2012, 06:37:40 AM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 30, 2012, 10:19:26 PM

TIP . . . After installing the PIAAs, grab a buddy to help and check/adjust your headlight alignment. Mine came from the factory aiming pretty low. You will definitely get much better coverage with the headlights properly aligned.

Yeah, mine are so low now my low beams barely exist and I ride with my high beams on and no one has flashed me yet. However, dealer checked them and said they were within spec....

tall drink of water · « **Reply #28 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:34:56 AM »

I picked my set of black LED head lights up from the dealer last week. Drop bike off tonight for installation. Think black will look better with my red/black 2011 cvo.

Robmay · « **Reply #29 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:15:58 PM »

Quote from: tall drink of water on October 01, 2012, 10:34:56 AM

I picked my set of black LED head lights up from the dealer last week. Drop bike off tonight for installation. Think black will look better with my red/black 2011 cvo.

Let's see a pic or two of that!!

nu_glider · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2012, 11:01:48 PM »

TALL DRINK - second the pictures, I'm also interested in how much labor/time your dealer charged. Mine was unsure just how much time to estimate since he has not done one yet. Thanks for you input

tall drink of water · « **Reply #31 on:** October 02, 2012, 10:10:55 AM »

My black glosss are being installed tonight.

Robmay · « **Reply #32 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:38:24 PM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 30, 2012, 10:19:26 PM

TIP . . . After installing the PIAAs, grab a buddy to help and check/adjust your headlight alignment. Mine came from the factory aiming pretty low. You will definitely get much better coverage with the headlights properly aligned.

At the risk of getting flamed by Chip for not using the search function....

Do I have to remove the fairing to install these bulbs?

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #33 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:24:22 PM »

Quote from: Robmay on October 02, 2012, 04:38:24 PM

At the risk of getting flamed by Chip for not using the search function.... Do I have to remove the fairing to install these bulbs?

No, There is a black plastic piece that surrounds the 2 headlamps. Carefully pop it off. There are 4 catches,; 2 on top and 2 on the bottom. I started from the bottom working it off. I used a wide blade screwdriver wrapped with a microfiber towel. Be very careful!!! I hope/wonder if someone has a better method for removal.

Once that is off there are four screws (2ea) that hold the lamps in the fairing. Remove them and the lamps will come out. Simply replace the bulbs and reassemble. The whole thing toook me about 30 - 40 minutes.

North Star · « **Reply #34 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:38:32 PM »

For pre-2010 bikes you do have to remove the fairing to replace the headlight bulbs.

Robmay · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:46:21 PM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on October 02, 2012, 06:24:22 PM

No, There is a black plastic piece that surrounds the 2 headlamps. Carefully pop it off. There are 4 catches,; 2 on top and 2 on the bottom. I started from the bottom working it off. I used a wide blade screwdriver wrapped with a microfiber towel. Be very careful!!! I hope/wonder if someone has a better method for removal.

Once that is off there are four screws (2ea) that hold the lamps in the fairing. Remove them and the lamps will come out. Simply replace the bulbs and reassemble. The whole thing toook me about 30 - 40 minutes.

Thanks GG. Done. Just took it for a spin. Much brighter (whiter) light but they definitely need adjusting. Any instructions on where the adjustment is? I assume, remove the bezel again?

Robmay · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:46:46 PM »

Quote from: North Star on October 02, 2012, 06:38:32 PM

For pre-2010 bikes you do have to remove the fairing to replace the headlight bulbs.

So, so glad I have a 2011!

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2012, 08:34:47 PM »

Quote from: Robmay on October 02, 2012, 07:46:21 PM

Thanks GG. Done. Just took it for a spin. Much brighter (whiter) light but they definitely need adjusting. Any instructions on where the adjustment is? I assume, remove the bezel again?

There is a section in the Owners Manual that covers this. Pages 199 - 202. The fairing and the bezel can stay on. Page 202 has a diagram that show where the adjusting screws are.

Robmay · « **Reply #38 on:** October 03, 2012, 09:46:10 AM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on October 02, 2012, 08:34:47 PM

There is a section in the Owners Manual that covers this. Pages 199 - 202. The fairing and the bezel can stay on. Page 202 has a diagram that show where the adjusting screws are.

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Robmay · « **Reply #39 on:** October 03, 2012, 08:17:47 PM »

Is this the adjustment hole(s)?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/88016107@N03/8052118755/

Grey Ghost · « **Reply #40 on:** October 04, 2012, 01:29:59 PM »

Quote from: Robmay on October 03, 2012, 08:17:47 PM

Is this the adjustment hole(s)?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/88016107@N03/8052118755/

Yep, There is a small hex-headed adjuster (I think mine were painted a bright green on the head) just inside the hole (one on each side of the fairing). My biggest problem was finding a socket small enough. Ended up finding one on a 1/4" drive deep socket set.

nu_glider · « **Reply #41 on:** October 07, 2012, 12:58:53 PM »

They look awesome! I rode last night after dark and they work better than expected. Expensive I admit but the price of admission was well worth it. Thanks to my mechanic, Lee Bomar at HD of North TX.

SEURG · « **Reply #42 on:** October 13, 2012, 02:39:10 PM »

Just installed the new bulbs. Can't wait to try them out tonight. Hopefully the $44 spent ends up saving me the $650 for LEDs!

porthole · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2013, 10:08:30 AM »

Quote from: SBB on September 16, 2012, 10:59:15 AM

YUP!
Brian was right!

Surprised I missed this. Brian was right about what?

bikerbob369 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 06, 2013, 06:01:30 PM »

Quote from: Grey Ghost on September 30, 2012, 10:19:26 PM

TIP . . . After installing the PIAAs, grab a buddy to help and check/adjust your headlight alignment. Mine came from the factory aiming pretty low. You will definitely get much better coverage with the headlights properly aligned.

Amazon says this part number is no longer available. Would one of these work instead?
http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-70456-Xtreme-White-Anti-vibration/dp/B000TK3U4O/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386370132&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=piaa+replacement+bulbs+H4+10904
or
http://www.amazon.com/15224-Style-Xtreme-White-100-Watt/dp/B00067BVDC/ref=au_as_r?ie=UTF8&Make=Harley%20Davidson%7C1187&Model=FLTRUSE%20CVO%20Road%20Glide%20Ultra%7C17653&Year=2011%7C2011&carId=002&n=15684181&s=automotive&vehicleType=49
or
http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-10704-Night-Tech-Upgrade/dp/B00544ZD86/ref=au_as_r?ie=UTF8&Make=Harley%20Davidson%7C1187&Model=FLTRUSE%20CVO%20Road%20Glide%20Ultra%7C17653&Year=2011%7C2011&carId=002&n=15684181&s=automotive&vehicleType=49

Author Topic: LED Is there possibly a new option? (Read 10358 times)

Jerry/MD