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[Ghost__Rider]

I have had two 2014 CVO's with these new Daymaker Headlamps. I absolutely hate them at night. They are fine going straight down the highway, but in the mountains or curvy roads I can't see around the corners enough to feel safe. I was wondering if anyone else has this feeling and have you changed to something else? I'm thinking about trying the new Daymaker Reflector LED Headlamps and AUX lamps. ANyone got any input?

[FinalShot]

Like you, I lost all visual reference with the projector style light on my 15 CVO. I bought a reflector style light and the adapter you will need. I haven't ridden at night in the twisties yet so I can't really tell you if it makes a difference. I can tell you that it doesn't have the same "punch" down the road as the projector does but is still pretty darn good.

My plan is to use my GoPro and take a before and after video of an area that I ride frequently.

[Ghost__Rider]

I ordered mine today. I hope they are better or I'm putting a regular lamp in. I hate these. I feel like a Horse with Blinders on in the curves.

[SE-Mike]

I've seen my buddy's projector LED and was not impressed, so when the Reflector LED came out I was excited to try it. It is much better than the stock headlight, but does not reach far enough down the road for me. I have HID lights on my other bike and really like the coverage and distance that they project, but don't like the power they draw. I was hoping the new LED would give me the light I needed without the power drain.

If you find your unhappy with the LED Reflector, you may want to look at a quality HID.

[DOWNTOWN DON]

Has anyone done an actual side by side comparrison between the daymaker and the phase 7 by truk lite? I've seen the you tube vids, but it's usually venders bragging up their own product. I have a phase 7 off my last cvo, but crashed the bike before really getting to try it out. Now my new cvo is going to have the daymaker on it from stock. I was gonna sell the phase 7, but not if it's better than the daymaker.

[skratch]

easy problem to solve.  get a roadglide   

my daymakers are great at night, whether on the straightaways, or the twisties....

[Chains]

I have the truck lite headlight and running lights, love them. Mine are about 2 years old.

[MrSurly]

In my non-scientific test, the Phase7 lamp was far WORSE than the DayMaker projector in the curves.
I had the dual bulb halogen in my 10 ultra CVO. I borrowed and tried the phase 7 lamp just briefly and absolutely hated it as soon as the road turned at all. That horizontal light pattern that was outstanding on the straights was horrid in any turn; a 30* lean and both the center of the road AND the inside of the turn were completely dark.
Put the dual bulb back in. I started hearing that the new projectors were better and I took a chance when a buddy was swapping his for the black versions. I got his HD projectors from his '14 ltd including the spots. OK, they are BETTER than the phase 7 in the curves, there is no doubt about this. However, they are still terrible compared to the dual-bulb for this. The spots help a lot but not enough.
The HD projectors are badass on the straightaways, tho.
I already have some kury fork mounted lamps and I'm going to upgrade them with their LED kit and I'm hoping they will fill in the blanks.


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[ultrarider123]

I will agree that the daymakers on the '13 back RG are the bees knees.  We installed a set on skunk ryders '12 and when he's behind me, I really don't need my headlight....it's that bright.  I broke down and bought the Kury phase 7 for my '12 SESG in August '13 and have been enjoying it ever since.  It was less expensive than the HD daymaker for my bike and I like the light pattern much better than the single daymaker.  It's still not near the headlight setup that is on Rick's '12 skunk but it's much brighter than the stock dual bulb.  It took me a bit to get it adjusted to my liking but after a bit of tinkering, it's working well with the way I have it adjusted.  I would have prefered to kept my dual bulb headlight and put LED bulbs (not available) or a brighter halogen but for the use I've gotten out of the phase 7, it has been worth it to me.

[Trapperdog]

Just for kicks, here's a comparison with pics on some of the lights mentioned
http://bogiesreviews.webs.com/Review%20-%20Phase%207%20LED%20Headlights%20&%20Passing%20Lamps.pdf

[wachuko]

I will agree that the daymakers on the '13 back RG are the bees knees.  We installed a set on skunk ryders '12 and when he's behind me, I really don't need my headlight....it's that bright.  I broke down and bought the Kury phase 7 for my '12 SESG in August '13 and have been enjoying it ever since.  It was less expensive than the HD daymaker for my bike and I like the light pattern much better than the single daymaker.  It's still not near the headlight setup that is on Rick's '12 skunk but it's much brighter than the stock dual bulb.  It took me a bit to get it adjusted to my liking but after a bit of tinkering, it's working well with the way I have it adjusted.  I would have prefered to kept my dual bulb headlight and put LED bulbs (not available) or a brighter halogen but for the use I've gotten out of the phase 7, it has been worth it to me.

Spot on... I rode my RK CVO with a friend that, at the time, had a 2011 Road Glide with the Daymaker lights.  The way the headlights in his bike lit up the road was amazing... much better than the one on my RK.

I now have the caliper mounted lights and also switched the turn signals for Custom Dynamics driving light turn signal combo...

But those older RG Daymaker lights were awesome...

[Chains]

mine are phase 5 I believe, not sure what the different phase generations did for lighting.

[ultrarider123]

.....and also switched the turn signals for Custom Dynamics driving light turn signal combo...

But those older RG Daymaker lights were awesome...

Back atcha on the C.D. halo turn signals.  They are bright enough to actually give me some front/side lighting.  While they aren't driving grade, they help visually to see and be seen.  Love my Custom D's.....

[FLSTFI Dave]

Had a 12 CVO Road glide with the Original Day Maker lights installed.  By far the best head light I have ever had on any bike.  Better than the new Day Makers lights that are on my 15 CVO Road Glide.  I would say my 15 has the second best lights I have had on a bike. 

The Day Maker on my CVO RK is a very good light, but does not compare to the lights on either road glide.  Its not the reflector Daymaker, but the first style.

[Puma]

I won't dispute the superiority of the double lights on the Road Glides, but I like the Daymaker headlight on my 2014 CVO King also. I should say I don't ride a lot at night and after sundown I try to avoid roads that I know have really tight dark turns, so for the riding I normally do at night this light is great. It lights at least three times farther down the road than my 2010 Heritage that had the stock halogen reflector and aux lights.

[wachuko]

I won't dispute the superiority of the double lights on the Road Glides, but I like the Daymaker headlight on my 2014 CVO King also. I should say I don't ride a lot at night and after sundown I try to avoid roads that I know have really tight dark turns, so for the riding I normally do at night this light is great. It lights at least three times farther down the road than my 2010 Heritage that had the stock halogen reflector and aux lights.

All we are saying is that the Daymaker lights in the older Road Glides (the daymaker lights that came out before the 2015 ) are the best of all that have come out so far.

I have an RK CVO as well... and side by side with the 2011 Road Glide with Daymakers...simply no comparison... That same guy upgraded his 2011 RG to a 2015 RG-S a few weeks ago, and the same thing... his new lights are not better than the ones he had on the 2011...  HD went backwards in light output or the design of the housing in the new RGs headlights... but they are not as good as the previous generation.

Anyway.... with the RK CVO stock headlight, and the auxiliary lights that I have, it is all good now. 

[YELLOWBIRD]

All we are saying is that the Daymaker lights in the older Road Glides (the daymaker lights that came out before the 2015 ) are the best of all that have come out so far.




X2!!!!!!!!!


 




YB

[FLSTFI Dave]

I won't dispute the superiority of the double lights on the Road Glides, but I like the Daymaker headlight on my 2014 CVO King also. I should say I don't ride a lot at night and after sundown I try to avoid roads that I know have really tight dark turns, so for the riding I normally do at night this light is great. It lights at least three times farther down the road than my 2010 Heritage that had the stock halogen reflector and aux lights.

I live way out, in the Sticks, about 20 miles from the nearest roads with street lights.  Its very dark with lots of curves.  The Daymaker single light like on my 13 CVO King and Kings before 15 are the best single light headlights in my opinion.  My wife has phase 5 led on her heritage and this is better.  I had HID and this is better.  So far the only thing better is the Road Glide original Daymakers

[charles05663]

All we are saying is that the Daymaker lights in the older Road Glides (the daymaker lights that came out before the 2015 ) are the best of all that have come out so far.

Maybe part of the redesign was to cut costs and increase profits and put out a lessor product.  I know that is out of character for HD though.

 

[FLSTFI Dave]

Maybe part of the redesign was to cut costs and increase profits and put out a lessor product.  I know that is out of character for HD though.

 

I could agree when we are talking the lights on the CVO.  But lets take the Road Glide in 13, only the CVO had LED Daymakers.  Now while its not quite as good a light as the original on the CVO, on the road glide and road glide Special it is far superior to any light that has been on it before.

Also Every 15 road glide I know that has been delivered has had to have the lights adjusted up, and that makes a huge difference.  My bike they were way low, same with my Wifes, same with another Lady my wife knows and a Guy I know.  Seems they come aimed very low from the factory.

[donvito]

What year did the CVO start coming with daymakers as oem? is there a projector led or HID available? Ive always understood that projectors if adjusted properly throw out more light?

[FLSTFI Dave]

What year did the CVO start coming with daymakers as oem? is there a projector led or HID available? Ive always understood that projectors if adjusted properly throw out more light?

For the Road Glide it was 2013.  My 12 had regular lights, and a friends 13 came with the Daymakers.  The original non reflectors are brighter than the ones on my 15 which are reflector.  I installed the day makers original style on my 12.

[MrSurly]

as an aside: While Christmas shopping I saw the Phase 7 pretty cheap here: http://www.leatherup.com/p/Cruiser-Motorcycle-Headlights/Kuryakyn-Phase-Seven-7-in.-L.E.D.-Headlight/321595.html
As stated, I'm not a big fan of it but many are, and the price seemed notable.

[Gnarl78]

I have a 2008 CVO Ultra and put HIDs into the dual halogen bulb housing. I like the light output and pattern. They are very bright day and night. For my passing lamps I have LEDs similar to the Trucklite Phase 6's. I put Custom Dynamics LED rings for my turn signals. I'm happy with this setup.

[MrSurly]

That sounds interesting. Can you post some pics? I'm also curious as to the "color" of the HIDs.

[DOWNTOWN DON]

I have a 2008 CVO Ultra and put HIDs into the dual halogen bulb housing.

Just curious, where did you mount the ballasts?

[FLHTCUSE7]

If you want good lights check out Clearwaters Erica lights. 6,000 Lumens per light.

I have a set on my 1200GS, cant get better lights.

[MrSurly]

Well, now that I've checked on the ERICAs, the HD projector seems quite the bargain.


I've looked through their site and cannot find the answer to a simple question: How many lamps are in a 'kit'?


They do look awesome. I currently have the Kury 3" fork-mounted lamps and am planning to get their led conversion kit (5035) for them. These other smaller clearwaters are looking pretty cool.

[Trapperdog]

The Clearwater light kits all come with a pair of lights. The Ericas are 6K lumens ea for a total of 12K lumens, but much too large for a fork mount. The Darlas at 2K lumens ea are the best choice for fork mounts. Each kit has an on/ off switch, a variable dimmer, and can be wired to the horn circuit so the lights flash with horn activation. Expensive, but top of the line parts and construction

[FLHTCUSE7]

Erica's are not cheap but then again I was looking for good lights, not lights that look good.

[Trapperdog]

Exactly, we have them on our R1200RT. The owner is a friend of ours

[FLHTCUSE7]

He build great stuff and kits. Took me two beer to install on the GS.  Neat thing on the GS is that the light controls are integrated into the BMW stock controls, very cool!. great service to by the way. Cant say enough good about these lights.

Several of my GS riding friends have these lights and they take a beating and continue on working.  Housing gets dented when you drop the bike in the rocks but that's it.

Exactly, we have them on our R1200RT. The owner is a friend of ours

[FLHTCUSE7]

This picture is the Ericas set for 10% with running lights. 100% burn your retina

[MrSurly]

"can be wired to the horn circuit so the lights flash with horn activation"

Now THAT is a really good idea.

[FLHTCUSE7]

Or you can set them to strobe with the horn. (That is how I set mine up)

"can be wired to the horn circuit so the lights flash with horn activation"

Now THAT is a really good idea.

[wachuko]

If you want good lights check out Clearwaters Erica lights. 6,000 Lumens per light.

I have a set on my 1200GS, cant get better lights.

Wow!  Those really turn night into day!!!