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Custom Vehicle Discussions => Screamin' Eagle® Road Glide® => Topic started by: lyn.husen on May 23, 2018, 09:36:59 AM
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Three years ago I decided I needed another Road Glide as spare for when my 2008 was down. I purchased a used 2009 FLTRSE3 Electric Orange 1 owner with 30,000 on it. At 6’3” I had to replace the bars & seat as my knees hit the bars & seat put me to far forward. Since then I have had lifters replaced due to one shearing in the first month. So total upgrades are as follows:
LA Choppers 16” bars
Dakota Digital Gauges
After market Stereo
V&H power duals
V&H HO slipons
Dragos 580 Cam for the 110
Custom Dynamics Contrast Cut Airhorn
Progressive Monotubes
Ohlins Rear Shocks
Power Vision Target Tune w/Wideband02 Sensors
Ultrakool 2.0 Oil Cooler
Anyway the other day I stopped by the local HD to take a test ride of a 2018 to appease my I think I need a new scoot frame of mind. Pretty much totally over it now as I wasn’t all that impressed.
Got back from the ride & didn’t see my Scoot in the lot, brought the fob in an asked the sales guy where mine was at. Was told they were going over it so the could give me a fair offer as a trade. Decided I would go ahead and see what they had to offer knowing full well I wasn’t in the market, manager came in & said they would give me $11,000 on a new 2018 CVO due to the fact that it wasn’t stock. To make a long story short I love my 09 & told him that’s ok I’ll keep what I have. He then goes but you could have your Dream Bike, I kinda chuckled and said I already do.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/9cffe367a12295b8c38220e1f58fff4b.jpg)
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I'm sure there are many on this site (and elsewhere) who would never part with their '09 Road Glide.
Beautiful bikes, for sure. :2vrolijk_21:
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Beautiful bike. To answer your original question, no! I thought making it your own was what Harleys are for.
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I'm sure there are many on this site (and elsewhere) who would never part with their '09 Road Glide.
Beautiful bikes, for sure. :2vrolijk_21:
True, although I did part with my 08 RG
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To answer your question I guess it boils down to what aspect would the question apply.....
If you are talking about making a bike more dependable, safer, or comfortable so that you have many more happy hours riding then spending money on mods is not a bad thing.
On the other hand everybody has to understand that the majority of money on mods is not recovered unless you are lucky and find some buyer that loves what you have done and is willing to pay what you think it's worth. Usually you get pennies on the dollar for mods. Also whether the mods take the bike away from stock it may limit the number of riders who may like what you have done. (ex. someone who is looking for a frame mounted fairing bike is probably looking for protection from the weather and putting high handlebars on that type of bike puts your hands and arms back into the wind and might deter some potential buyers, otherwise it may attract someone who likes the style if it hasn't gone out of style etc.)
The dealership or potential buyer may be thinking of all the money they will have to spend to bring it closer to stock or to change it to make it their own style.
Overall the current owner of anything thinks their item is always worth more due to the emotional investment and the potential buyer wants a bargain. It always comes down to supply and demand and I never plan to profit from any vehicle just enjoy it while I can and get the best price when I decide it's time to part with it.
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True, although I did part with my 08 RG
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The 08's were nice, but they're just not the same as the collectible '09's. There is another thread on this site that asks... "Are you keeping your '09 RG?"
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i'm real curious as to how they got your bike in the shop without the fob?
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i'm real curious as to how they got your bike in the shop without the fob?
I had to give them my keys in order to take the test ride.
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The 08's were nice, but they're just not the same as the collectible '09's. There is another thread on this site that asks... "Are you keeping your '09 RG?"
I read that post awhile back
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To answer your question I guess it boils down to what aspect would the question apply.....
If you are talking about making a bike more dependable, safer, or comfortable so that you have many more happy hours riding then spending money on mods is not a bad thing.
On the other hand everybody has to understand that the majority of money on mods is not recovered unless you are lucky and find some buyer that loves what you have done and is willing to pay what you think it's worth. Usually you get pennies on the dollar for mods. Also whether the mods take the bike away from stock it may limit the number of riders who may like what you have done. (ex. someone who is looking for a frame mounted fairing bike is probably looking for protection from the weather and putting high handlebars on that type of bike puts your hands and arms back into the wind and might deter some potential buyers, otherwise it may attract someone who likes the style if it hasn't gone out of style etc.)
The dealership or potential buyer may be thinking of all the money they will have to spend to bring it closer to stock or to change it to make it their own style.
Overall the current owner of anything thinks their item is always worth more due to the emotional investment and the potential buyer wants a bargain. It always comes down to supply and demand and I never plan to profit from any vehicle just enjoy it while I can and get the best price when I decide it's time to part with it.
I don’t really think that what I have done to has made it that much more valuable to anyone other than myself. Usually your lucky if you get 25% back on the mods you do. I guess the point I was trying to make is that just because I did mods to make it my own shouldn’t make it worth less than stock. I do agree that if trading it to a dealer you will take a hit on a trade, but as a dealer you should at least treat the customer with a little respect if you expect to make a sale. I don’t like the new style of the RG’s since they came back out in 2015, but I’m not going to complain to the dealer about it. Anyway just relating my last experience at my local HD Dealer.
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lyn, I have a question for you. Did you tell them it was OK to move/inspect/price your bike or did they take that on their own? Because if it's the first option, that's fine and dandy.
If it's the second option and it had been me in that position, I probably would have been asking forgiveness from the good Lord for saying some of the things I know I would have been mad enough to say. It's not their place to assume ANYTHING is OK just because you are riding one of their bikes. I would be hard pressed to ever go back to them for anything.
Had a car dealer do that to me a few years ago. They took a copy of my driver's license for me to test drive their car. When I got back, they had already run my credit and put a deal together. I did not give them permission to do either and nothing was implied that I was buying the car. Needless to say, I asked them for their paperwork, watched them shred my driver's license copy and made sure they deleted me from their system before leaving. I was not a happy camper.
By the way to answer your question, you did well to keep your '09 in my opinion....it's one of my favorite color combinations. As far at 25% return on your modifications, most dealers around here allow for around the 10% range.
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Haird, here’s the way it went down. They said they needed the bike, copy of DL& Insurance in order for me to test drive the bike of which I had no problem with. If they would of just done on their own without permission I would have had a problem with it.
It was worth it to finally find out if I really wanted to own an M8 or not. Now I do have to say I really do like the Gunship Gray paint almost as much as my Electric Orange, but not enough to get rid of her. Just something about the paint schemes on the 09.
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lyn, I would have told them that I have all the stock parts and will put them back on if they gave me $18,000 for it just to mess with them .. lol I think you made a good choice here. Next to my buddies grey '09 I like the orange next. You have a nice ride there...Catches your eye way more than a dingy grey...My optinion. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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I thought about it, but kind of like the no monthly payment situation & that extra $$$ can always go for upgrades or long trips. Also being 65 I can now be “the old guy on the TC” seeing how the M8’s are the new latest greatest.
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nice bike for sure, and 11k for trade is an insult. plus I think for now the TC may be the best thing HD has on the road ;)
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I looked up NADA base low retail, which is usually the most a dealer will put in a used bike, in REAL money. He may tell you he's putting more, but he is making it up on fianancing, or extended warranty or "Dealer fees". So on your bike it is $12125 tonight using a central florida zip code.
By the time he deducted for your handlebars, seat and windshield, not counting the aftermarket exhaust and the fact someone has "messed" with the computer,, the fact he offered you only a grand less I understand. Not saying I agree, just understand.
We spend big money for upgrades and it used to be OK with the average used buyers, but not anymore. They want a used bike nobody has messed with. I traded my bike just like yours on my 15 RGCVO, they looked at it, gave me a price for original equipment. I went home and spent two days taking stuff off and putting it back as stock as I could. Sold almost all the stuff I took off on here and ebay/craigslist and did OK in the end. Even ended up selling the TTS to the new buyer. So maybe you could try that.
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Maybe I phrased some things wrong in my original post. I only went in to test ride the M8 to prove to myself I didn’t need to get a new scoot, the dealer was the one wanting me to trade mine in. I just wanted to ride & M8 & letting them value mine was part of the requirements. Personally I’m glad I rode the M8, but I wasn’t really all that impressed by it.
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I traded in my '08 SERK Annie on my '09 SERG O/B.
When I took it in for the trade review, they said that it's not worth anything extra for any of my options, exhaust, tuner, tourpak etc. He said he would give me the same price if it were showroom stock.
The next day upon trade in it was "showroom stock". I got my deal and sold the remaining takeoff parts for around $2500. They actually gave me a good allowance, but I made out better with the re-selling of my parts.
I've not really seen anything that would make me "want" to replace my '09 Orange and Black beauty. I've got less than 19k miles on it and it's on my lift getting ready for my trek to ES in a couple weeks.
Your bike looks great, it's a keeper!
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A very wise man that runs the local independently owned bike shop by me one told me, if you put 5 thousand into a 2 thousand dollar bike, you still have a two thousand dollar bike.
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Well very wise man (my dad) also told me that the grass always seems greener on the other side, but what I’ve found out is that it rarely is. So I make a point of trying things out first like taking a test ride to see if it actually is. I never intended on buying new, never have & never will.
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Well very wise man (my dad) also told me that the grass always seems greener on the other side, but what I’ve found out is that it rarely is. So I make a point of trying things out first like taking a test ride to see if it actually is. I never intended on buying new, never have & never will.
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... And my Dad used to say a similar thing to me,
"Although the grass always appears to be greener on the other side, remember you still have to cut it!"
;D
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A while back I stopped in at the Dealer and the Blue 115th caught my eye. They looked over my 13 SERG and said we will you give you X, I don't recall something around 21K, but they were high on their bike. I said well none of the extras that are on my bike will go with it. I was surprised when they said why not? Just sell it to us like it is. At least they were not trying to dock me for mods.
Like others if I was ever to trade in or sell it, all the stock stuff with the exception of some engine internals will come off and be sold. I keep EVERYTHING that gets replaced. We all like our bikes our way - super rare to see any two that are truly the same, not sure I ever have after the owner has them a week or two.
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lyn, I have a question for you. Did you tell them it was OK to move/inspect/price your bike or did they take that on their own? Because if it's the first option, that's fine and dandy.
If it's the second option and it had been me in that position, I probably would have been asking forgiveness from the good Lord for saying some of the things I know I would have been mad enough to say. It's not their place to assume ANYTHING is OK just because you are riding one of their bikes. I would be hard pressed to ever go back to them for anything.
Had a car dealer do that to me a few years ago. They took a copy of my driver's license for me to test drive their car. When I got back, they had already run my credit and put a deal together. I did not give them permission to do either and nothing was implied that I was buying the car. Needless to say, I asked them for their paperwork, watched them shred my driver's license copy and made sure they deleted me from their system before leaving. I was not a happy camper.
By the way to answer your question, you did well to keep your '09 in my opinion....it's one of my favorite color combinations. As far at 25% return on your modifications, most dealers around here allow for around the 10% range.
It is absolutely illegal for anyone to run a credit check without your consent. HARD CREDIT CHECK, under the FCRA. but you better check that by doing the test drive that that does not constitute giving them permission. (By their company policy)
My understanding is you cannot give up this consent.
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Per NADA, low retail on a 2009 CVO RG is $11,300, average retail is $14,400. Around here that is what dealers use as a guide primarily and any extras or mods don't count, you are welcome to put your stock pieces back on as it will not change the price.
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... And my Dad used to say a similar thing to me,
"Although the grass always appears to be greener on the other side, remember you still have to cut it!"
;D
It’s been my experience that when the grass is greener on the other side of the fence it just means that there’s more fertilizer (bullchit) over there!
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Maybe I phrased some things wrong in my original post. I only went in to test ride the M8 to prove to myself I didn’t need to get a new scoot, the dealer was the one wanting me to trade mine in. I just wanted to ride & M8 & letting them value mine was part of the requirements. Personally I’m glad I rode the M8, but I wasn’t really all that impressed by it.
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I wish I could have kept them all as well...
03 Fatboy w/55k
08 Anniversary Street Glide w/22k
09 CVO RG (SILVER) w/36k
12 CVO RG (MAPLE) w/38k
But unfortunately space was a limiting factor for me...
Now, space is not as much the limiting factor as much as the lack of... well I guess its still space. I'm working on that now.
I have my '18, my '01 with the hack which is my daily ride and the wife's '11 Road King. Then there are cars, and trucks. ;D
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09 was the best year for the cvo road glide!
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09 was the best year for the cvo road glide!
No it wasn't :P
2000. Silly boy!
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No it wasn't :P
2000. Silly boy!
The '12 was the only one that didn't blow up... YET mileage-wise.. but the 01 has seniority age-wise... and its hauling around that extra #350.
So its hard for me to judge... :huepfenlol2: