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[Dr.D]

Any Harley that is not making a lot of noise has quit running. I have learned to live some rattle and shake since my bikes keep taking me down the road. The day they quit running i will consider the noises to have been a problem.

I guess there is a line dividing paranoia and prudent concern. Probably more like a huge gray sea.

[Twolanerider]

Running thicker and thicker fluids to quiet noises isn't a good answer btw.  It tends to remind me of the old days when folks trying to peddle old clapped out cars or trucks would load up the trans and rear end with heavy gear oil or even grease, and load up the engine with that super thick STP.


Jerry

Those weren't even my favorites Jerry.  Can remember as a early teenage kid working in a Texaco station old timers telling tales of whale oil and bringing in fine sawdust to ask to be dropped in noisy manual transmissions and rear ends.  I still get a kick thinking about all the fine special use products that an old line filling station still had on the shelf in the early 70s that were throwbacks from as far back as the 40s and 50s.  Wildly speculative suggestions of amazing claims. 

It was all too often so much bubkus.  But it was interesting.  In the same way that the lottery is taxes for the arithmetically challenged the various product claims about fancy spark plugs, goober sized plug wires, whale (or other non-synthetic) oils and intake manifold/carburetor venturi caps (et.al.) illustrate why advertising is such a lucrative endeavor.

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

PLEASE don't start that synthetic oil stuff again.  Trust me, the SYN3 in his engine is almost exactly the same viscosity as the HD360 dino oil - not just the SAE rating of 50 weight, but the actual viscosity measured in centistokes at 100°C (212°F).

Running thicker and thicker fluids to quiet noises isn't a good answer btw.  It tends to remind me of the old days when folks trying to peddle old clapped out cars or trucks would load up the trans and rear end with heavy gear oil or even grease, and load up the engine with that super thick STP.


Jerry

Service manual for 2000 Softail; (which BTW, runs cooler than it's 110" counterpart)
Page 1-11

Table 1-1. Recommended Oil Grades

H.D. Multi-grade SAE 10W40 for below 40*
H.D. Multi-grade SAE 20W50 for above 40*
H.D. Regular Heavy SAE 50W for above 60*
H.D. Extra Heavy SAE 60W for above 80*     
Scott

[sadunbar]

Service manual for 2000 Softail; (which BTW, runs cooler than it's 110" counterpart)
Page 1-11

Table 1-1. Recommended Oil Grades

H.D. Multi-grade SAE 10W40 for below 40*
H.D. Multi-grade SAE 20W50 for above 40*
H.D. Regular Heavy SAE 50W for above 60*
H.D. Extra Heavy SAE 60W for above 80*     
Scott

Didn't the MOCO swear off all synthetic oil's twelve years ago - back in 2000?  Wouldn't you expect a Twin Cam 88 to run cooler than a Twin Cam 110?  What year did the MOCO acknowledge the superiority of synthetic oils (what year did they started marketing SYN3 oil)?

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Syn 3?
You mean "the one size that fits all 3 holes, oil".
Kinda' reminds me of the Shovel days where 50W was used for the engine, and the gearbox.
In my opinion, the started selling it too soon, but now we will be stepping into the oil-head engines, which will cool the temps off, maintain viscosity better, and lifter hydrology, but, oh, wait, what about oil leaks now?
It'll never end.............
Scott

[DESERTBEAR54]

What about Saw Dust mixed with Syn 3??

[Twolanerider]

What about Saw Dust mixed with Syn 3??

Seems like a waste of good sawdust....

[Trapperdog]

I seem to recall banana peels in the differential and (manual) trans.  Oatmeal in the radiator for leaks.  Sounds like breakfast

[VANAMAL]

Now that they make cars so good you never need to work on then we all run out and buy harleys so we will have plenty to work on!

[Grey Ghost]

Thanks to all for your replies and information . . . I rode my clattering bike to the dealer this afternoon to talk about the problem. Not a pleasant experience . . . I received quite a number of lectures on everything from how terrible these sort of forums are, how terrible Syn3 is, how terrible AmsOil is, how terrible a rider I am  and that everything will be OK until I get to my 1k service and they will let me know then if there is anything wrong. I couldn't even get the Service Manager to walk out and listen to the bike. I will have to call for an appointment to get a 'tech' to do that.

So . . . In search of a new dealer!!

BTW . . . Does anyone have feedback on the cost for the 1k Service?

Grey Ghost

[HOGMIKE]

Thanks to all for your replies and information . . . I rode my clattering bike to the dealer this afternoon to talk about the problem. Not a pleasant experience . . . I received quite a number of lectures on everything from how terrible these sort of forums are, how terrible Syn3 is, how terrible AmsOil is, how terrible a rider I am  and that everything will be OK until I get to my 1k service and they will let me know then if there is anything wrong. I couldn't even get the Service Manager to walk out and listen to the bike. I will have to call for an appointment to get a 'tech' to do that.

So . . . In search of a new dealer!!

BTW . . . Does anyone have feedback on the cost for the 1k Service?

Grey Ghost

Good luck with that!
I travel about 160 miles to a dealer I can trust.
 

[bigdave110]

Thanks to all for your replies and information . . . I rode my clattering bike to the dealer this afternoon to talk about the problem. Not a pleasant experience . . . I received quite a number of lectures on everything from how terrible these sort of forums are, how terrible Syn3 is, how terrible AmsOil is, how terrible a rider I am   and that everything will be OK until I get to my 1k service and they will let me know then if there is anything wrong. I couldn't even get the Service Manager to walk out and listen to the bike. I will have to call for an appointment to get a 'tech' to do that.

So . . . In search of a new dealer!!

BTW . . . Does anyone have feedback on the cost for the 1k Service?

Grey Ghost

Sorry about how the Dealer treated you.
Even though I was pissed my motor let loose, I was supper happy how my dealer took care of me.
They gave me no chit at all, said it was covered and would fix with no prob, didn't ask how I drove it, what oil I used or any crap like that.
And they said all that before I said I was gonna trade it.

Plus my Dealer gives you the 1,000 service with a purchase.

You may need to drive some to find a good Dealer, but will be very happy when you do.
It can make a bad situation a lot better IMHO.
 I do agree with Mike, they are hard to find!!!!

Big Dave

[sadunbar]

BTW . . . Does anyone have feedback on the cost for the 1k Service?

Grey Ghost

Wouldn't know...  I've never paid for one and never will.   

[glens]

Does anyone have feedback on the cost for the 1k Service?

Depends on some stuff, but probably will be a couple hundred fifty.

[Grey Ghost]

Then I suppose $430 is a little out of line