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Title: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: Fullsac Performance on February 13, 2019, 11:28:57 AM
Just finished up a basic Stage I kit for a multiple repeat customer on his brand new (54 miles) 2019 114 Street Glide. Typical bolt ons, MX Pipe, 2.0 baffles in the stock 114 mufflers, Hi flow AC. TTS Mastertune. Didn't make any baseline pulls as the customer was looking to get back on the road asap. This one sure made the TQ early. 115 Ft pounds at 1800 RPM!

Special Thanks to Tom Turner of So Cal for continuing to ride with a Fullsac!

Steve@fullsac.com
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: fastfreddy on February 13, 2019, 04:55:17 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: JCZ on February 13, 2019, 08:56:06 PM
That looks good Steve.  Got that low end grunt. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: Tobias7000 on February 17, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
Steve, why is my CVO 117 Limited putting out such low numbers stock?  Maybe I answered my own question.  What are your thoughts on this baseline?  The dealer says a tuner and Street Cannons are the answer. 
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Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: hawgzilla on February 17, 2019, 11:29:50 AM
Not Steve but yours is quite typical of a stock factory tune.  The results he posted are with a good tune and good mods.
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: fastfreddy on February 17, 2019, 11:43:22 AM
 and I will add that the dealer dose not have the answer to more power and performance..... more noise maybe
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: Fullsac Performance on February 17, 2019, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: Tobias7000 on February 17, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
Steve, why is my CVO 117 Limited putting out such low numbers stock?  Maybe I answered my own question.  What are your thoughts on this baseline?  The dealer says a tuner and Street Cannons are the answer. 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190217/274f367b080b3884707338b5e78ef410.jpg)

Looks pretty typical for stock. I attached a before and after dyno chart from a 2019 CVO117. The base line was with the stock headpipe, our 2.0 baffles, no tuning. The final pull was with the addition of the MX Pipe and TTS tuning, no other changes. Your not going to make a lot of progress until you loose the stock cat header.

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Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on February 17, 2019, 08:14:55 PM
Quote from: Tobias7000 on February 17, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
Steve, why is my CVO 117 Limited putting out such low numbers stock?  Maybe I answered my own question.  What are your thoughts on this baseline?  The dealer says a tuner and Street Cannons are the answer. 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190217/274f367b080b3884707338b5e78ef410.jpg)


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Dealer is trying to make money, not power.  Dealer is keeping it warranty legal.  They HD street tuner, EPA legal can do very little to improve performance, it has to meet EPA requirements. 

Best bang of the money is the Fullsac MX headpipe, the Fullsac baffles size of your choice, tech mat and the TTS tuner.  That really woke my 18 CVO road glide up.  Gained 9 HP and 10 Torque over stock.  You could feel the difference, especially in the RPM range most people ride.

With TTS, you can flash the ECM back to stock, before you take it to the dealer.  Once done at dealer reload your tune.
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: joe98 on February 22, 2019, 08:19:03 PM
Great gains for a basic stage 1 .  Gotta be thrilled with the improvements... :orange:
Nice work Steve.... :beerchug: :beerchug:
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: mark on February 22, 2019, 08:23:36 PM
Steve, anymore thought on doing anything for the BMW K1600?  Exhaust, tune...??
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: Fullsac Performance on February 23, 2019, 09:37:26 AM
Quote from: Mark on February 22, 2019, 08:23:36 PM
Steve, anymore thought on doing anything for the BMW K1600?  Exhaust, tune...??

Sales dipped hard in 2017 with the introduction of the M8 platform and new warranty concerns. Seemed like a good time to look at new avenues with the BMW. The dip sure didn't last. We are slammed again building Harley parts and looking at a record year. Not sure if the BMW parts will ever see light or not if this keeps up.

Steve@fullsac.com
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: trwtow on February 24, 2019, 06:44:16 PM
have a 19 cvo roadglide coming in april wanna use mx headpipe would you suggest 2.25 or 2.0 baffles thanks terry
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: Fullsac Performance on February 25, 2019, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: trwtow on February 24, 2019, 06:44:16 PM
have a 19 cvo roadglide coming in april wanna use mx headpipe would you suggest 2.25 or 2.0 baffles thanks terry

Hi Terry

We sell far more 2.25 baffles than 2.0. Most prefer the more aggressive sound of the larger core. My personal preference is always dictated by best performance. With my MX header, the 2.0 baffle with Techmat blankets will make slightly better low end power with less DB level than the 2.25. For me that's win win. Don't overthink it, the power and sound level gap between the two is not very wide.

Steve@fullsac.com
Title: Re: 2019 114 stage I Dyno Test. Fullsac MX Pipe-2.0 baffle
Post by: trwtow on February 25, 2019, 06:33:53 PM
thanks steve I will be ordering soon