Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[naitram]

Raven Metallic

[naitram]

Golden White Pearl

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Pics...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[FLSTFI Dave]

I really like the White.  The 121 in the ST is not a VVT motor.  It does have more HP and Torque than the CVO Road Glide, redline is moved up to 5,900 RPM.  Front suspension is fully adjustable, where is the CVO Road Glide is not.  Rear is remote rear is also fully adjustable.  It add Track mode to the ride modes also.  It is lighter than the CVO road glide.

[mjb765]

No passenger pad or pegs??? 

[Twolanerider]

No passenger pad or pegs???

Some of us can remember when CVO equated to "throwing the catalog at it" from the P&A catalog.  Now even paint costs extra.

[bigC]

No passenger pad or pegs???

Nope, you are correct. Also no way to add a tour pack.

[FLSTFI Dave]

That is correct, no passenger pegs or pillon.  No place to mount Hwy pegs either.

[mjb765]

That is correct, no passenger pegs or pillon.  No place to mount Hwy pegs either.

From the pics I have seen it looks like the holes are still there for pegs, but I could be wrong.....and no way to put a removable tour pack either??   So a touring bike that you have to ride alone and can't tour with???  A $42k bar hopper......

[mjb765]

Some of us can remember when CVO equated to "throwing the catalog at it" from the P&A catalog.  Now even paint costs extra.

Yep..and now it comes with less customization, a copy of the catalog and a higher price tag

[kojak]

Yep..and now it comes with less customization, a copy of the catalog and a higher price tag

You can definitely go down the money pit to make this bike a 2 up tourer.

[Cvostu]

 No rear speakers???   

[Twolanerider]

No rear speakers???   

It's got almost as much rear speaker as it does windshield...

[OBB]

That is correct, no passenger pegs or pillon.  No place to mount Hwy pegs either.

Ciro makes a great mount for highway pegs. Mounts to the floorboard mount. You'll scrap your cans before those mounts.

[FLSTFI Dave]

You can definitely go down the money pit to make this bike a 2 up tourer.

My bet is the people that  buy this bike continue down the high performance path rather trying to make it a good bike for touring.

Being non VVT, you could bolt HD 135 cylinders on it, good cam, HPI intake and so on.  Nobody has VVT cams yet, fueling and S&S working on them.

[CVCVORG]

 I confirmed you can add the docking points and tour pack.  Just need a separate bracket to mount shock reservoir or relocate them.

Also the parts catalog has a passenger pillion.

[kojak]

My bet is the people that  buy this bike continue down the high performance path rather trying to make it a good bike for touring.

Being non VVT, you could bolt HD 135 cylinders on it, good cam, HPI intake and so on.  Nobody has VVT cams yet, fueling and S&S working on them.

Someone will do it, lol! Let’s see, relocate the rear shock reservoirs, docking kit, tourpak mounting kit, tourpak and hardware, tourpak lighting and backrest pad, heated seat and harness, backrest mounting kit and backrest,  redo the floorboards and add passenger floorboards, heated grips ( probably would need to change bars due to the risers) and I’m just getting started without touching the stereo and the pipes, lol!

[FLSTFI Dave]

Someone will do it, lol! Let’s see, relocate the rear shock reservoirs, docking kit, tourpak mounting kit, tourpak and hardware, tourpak lighting and backrest pad, heated seat and harness, backrest mounting kit and backrest,  redo the floorboards and add passenger floorboards, heated grips ( probably would need to change bars due to the risers) and I’m just getting started without touching the stereo and the pipes, lol!

I'm sure a couple will. That money will add up very fast to do it.  Still think most will go performance bagger route.

[kojak]

And I forgot you have to buy the heel shifter!

[BigLew55]

And I forgot you have to buy the heel shifter!

...don't have to take off the heel shifter.   

[FLSTFI Dave]

...don't have to take off the heel shifter.   

And I forgot you have to buy the heel shifter!

I would have to buy the heal shifter.  Thats the only way I up shift except on my Pan America, and I find my self trying to do it on my PAS.

[acevtwin]

Some of us can remember when CVO equated to "throwing the catalog at it" from the P&A catalog.  Now even paint costs extra.

My 2000 Screamin' Eagle Road Glide came with a Rider backrest, a passenger backrest AND a detachable chopped tourpak.
Things sure have changed.

[Twolanerider]

My 2000 Screamin' Eagle Road Glide came with a Rider backrest, a passenger backrest AND a detachable chopped tourpak.
Things sure have changed.

2001 kept everything the 2000 had and added the (often failing) multi-disk CD player in the tour pak.  Lowers on all of them.  Lots of other smaller goodies.  Still riding my red 2000. 

[CVCVORG]

I thought they might have used the lithium battery for eight savings, but no deal, same old battery.

Holes are still there in the frame for passenger pegs.

If it came with a few more options, like heated grips and speakers in the bags, I could convince myself to take the plunge.  But I’ll likely spend $15 less on a 2024 Road Glide and add 128” Fuel Moto kit and a sound system from Volunteer Audio or Sinister Sound

[GregKhougaz]

And the winner is...

2024 Harley-Davidson CVO Road Glide ST vs Indian Challenger Elite - The Ultimate Bagger Comparison

[Ironhorse]

My 2000 Screamin' Eagle Road Glide came with a Rider backrest, a passenger backrest AND a detachable chopped tourpak.
Things sure have changed.

And now you pay more to get less. Thank you Harley-Davidson.

[Twolanerider]

And now you pay more to get less. Thank you Harley-Davidson.

The 2000 CVO Road Glide's MSRP was $23k if I recall correctly.  Five years later the 2005 CVO Electra Glide was $30k.  Both were great bikes and topped out relative to their time. 

The Fed's CPI calculator says $23,000 from January of 2000 is $41,795 in money from December 2023.  It also says $30,000 from January of 2005 is $48, 255 for this same past December. 

FWIW, the government's CPI calculator doesn't have a dropdown to add surcharges for paint...

[kojak]

I think low 40’s is fine for a cvo, my problem began when they started exceeding $50-$55k plus all the other add-ons. I bought my 22 cvo rgl which has every option under the sky used with only 900 miles on the odometer for $15k less than if I had bought it brand new.

[DRT2STREET]

Picked this up last week
I have put 150 miles on it so far
Im still in the break in period and trying to stay under 3500 rpms
wow even at that...bammm
I will say, other than the ridiculously quiet exhaust, the bike is flawless.
Technology works great and the acceleration is insane.
Suspension is super easy to tune and the rider position is aggressive.
Sure no 2 up seat, but possible if you really want a passenger.
I did break down and throw a set of Kromewerks 202645's on it.
What a difference

[kojak]

Congrats on your new cvo!

Picked this up last week
I have put 150 miles on it so far
Im still in the break in period and trying to stay under 3500 rpms
wow even at that...bammm
I will say, other than the ridiculously quiet exhaust, the bike is flawless.
Technology works great and the acceleration is insane.
Suspension is super easy to tune and the rider position is aggressive.
Sure no 2 up seat but possible if you really want a passenger.
I did break down and throw a set of Kromewerks 202645's on it.
What a difference

[DRT2STREET]

Congrats on your new cvo!

Thank Kojak
 
Cannot say enough good about it

[kojak]

I sat on that exact model couple of weeks ago. For a factory performance bagger, it was very well done. Amazing isnt it how quickly you ditched the titanium tip mufflers they sell standalone for $1250, lol!

[DRT2STREET]

I sat on that exact model couple of weeks ago. For a factory performance bagger, it was very well done. Amazing isnt it how quickly you ditched the titanium tip mufflers they sell standalone for $1250, lol!

Yes
It sounded like a sewing machine to me b4 the switch
Been used to Vance & Hines 2-1 with no cat on my streetglide.
You gotta let the cages know ur coming and believe me, those $1200 titanium mufflers suck
so now they sit in a box and my bike sounds like a Harley
 

[FLSTFI Dave]

Yes
It sounded like a sewing machine to me b4 the switch
Been used to Vance & Hines 2-1 with no cat on my streetglide.
You gotta let the cages know ur coming and believe me, those $1200 titanium mufflers suck
so now they sit in a box and my bike sounds like a Harley
 

Congratulations on the new CVO.  That's sad about those mufflers.  I wanted to hear them and if good get them, as they look nice.

[DRT2STREET]

Congratulations on the new CVO.  That's sad about those mufflers.  I wanted to hear them and if good get them, as they look nice.

Dave
Your telling me, disappointment for sure.
Modifying them to sound better looked like major drama which is why i said...good bye and got the Khromewerks, which evidently sound straight up awesome and look like they were made for that bike.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Dave
Your telling me, disappointment for sure.
Modifying them to sound better looked like major drama which is why i said...good bye and got the Khromewerks, which evidently sound straight up awesome and look like they were made for that bike.

I have TAB performance B.A.M sticks with Zombie baffles on my 23 CVO, love the sound.  Wish those SE had a good sound.

[pj57]

I think low 40’s is fine for a cvo, my problem began when they started exceeding $50-$55k plus all the other add-ons. I bought my 22 cvo rgl which has every option under the sky used with only 900 miles on the odometer for $15k less than if I had bought it brand new.

Here’s the price tag on a Glide ST at Harley of Central Texas (Austin). Wish I could but my old man body and budget won’t allow. The fine print says that price doesn’t include TTL, setup, etc.

[OBB]

Here’s the price tag on a Glide ST at Harley of Central Texas (Austin). Wish I could but my old man body and budget won’t allow. The fine print says that price doesn’t include TTL, setup, etc.

Nothing like trying to milk every nickle they can out of someone that doesn't know any better.

[kojak]

Here’s the price tag on a Glide ST at Harley of Central Texas (Austin). Wish I could but my old man body and budget won’t allow. The fine print says that price doesn’t include TTL, setup, etc.

I would never ever buy a bike from a dealership that has any kind of dealer markup much less  than a $10k dealer markup on MSRP. We have 10 dealerships give or take in the 100 mile radius of the DMV area, there are several I have never bought a bike from because of exactly this.

[pj57]

I would never ever buy a bike from a dealership that has any kind of dealer markup much less  than a $10k dealer markup on MSRP. We have 10 dealerships give or take in the 100 mile radius of the DMV area, there are several I have never bought a bike from because of exactly this.

You’re right, when I lived in the DMV I was spoiled. I could always find a part or bike in stock that I was looking for somewhere close.Waugh HD in Orange was my favorite.

[kojak]

You’re right, when I lived in the DMV I was spoiled. I could always find a part or bike in stock that I was looking for somewhere close.Waugh HD in Orange was my favorite.

Yeah, Boss Waugh was one of a kind. He sat at the front desk and greeted all his customers. I chatted with him many a time when we lived in the Charlottesville area.  I once passed him riding down to Daytona Bike Week when he was riding down on his trike. he was 80 years old that year if I remember right.
https://dailyprogress.com/news/community/orangenews/news/don-waugh-remembered/article_21272392-412b-11e9-a84f-dbfc707a4ea9.html

[Fired00d]

You’re right, when I lived in the DMV I was spoiled. I could always find a part or bike in stock that I was looking for somewhere close.Waugh HD in Orange was my favorite.

Yeah, Boss Waugh was one of a kind. He sat at the front desk and greeted all his customers. I chatted with him many a time when we lived in the Charlottesville area.  I once passed him riding down to Daytona Bike Week when he was riding down on his trike. he was 80 years old that year if I remember right.
https://dailyprogress.com/news/community/orangenews/news/don-waugh-remembered/article_21272392-412b-11e9-a84f-dbfc707a4ea9.html

"Big Daddy" Don Waugh definitely was one of a kind... it was a joy to talk to him when going to his store. It was a true old school dealership where the owner was a rider/motorcyclist. He sold the dealership a few years before he passed and name has changed to Stonewall H-D. They are moving the dealership out of Orange into Greene County on Route 29. KC if you remember from your time in the area the new dealership will be a little south of Route 33 on the southbound side of Route 29.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d