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CVO Technical => EVO => Topic started by: Hoist! on September 19, 2007, 05:14:33 PM
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Well, I just got made an offer I can't refuse, to CVO my '85 EVO FXWG! I just ordered a 110" Rev-Tech engine (same specs as my SERK, 4.375" stroke x 4.0" bore) 110 HP, complete with charging system, carb, ignition, all the covers, etc.; new 6-speed trans; new Heavy Duty clutch; inner and outer primary's; new comp sprocket, 1.7 KW starter, etc. A complete conversion package from the crappy tapered keyway'd shaft 4-speed setup, to a modern splined 6-speed setup. Everything you need to replace the old stuff, complete. Get this...$5700.00!
I just saved about 3 grand by doing it this way vs. using the S&S 113 and buying everything separate. So with the money I saved, I can now finish the rest of the bike to bring it up to CVO standards!
New PM Calipers and new Rotors, and send forks to Traxxion for AK-20 conversion and new BiTubo Rear Shocks. That should do it.
The whole conversion should come in under 10 grand installed!
One of the best bikes HD ever made will now get CVO treatment and be made even better. If my SERK works out as planned, I'll have 2 of the best bikes that HD wished they could make! ;)
Looks like it's time to sell the Pro Street! ::)
Hoist! 8)
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LOL, Howie! You ain't right putting $10K into an '85, LOL! That's what I like about you, though. You do things for the passion, not 'cause they're logical. Sorta like flying to Memphis after your SERK broke down, just so you could be with us! :2vrolijk_21:
Be sure and take some before and after photos. You know the drill . . .
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LOL, Howie! You ain't right
Brian
Thought I would quote you on the important part of your post!
True, true, very true!
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LOL, Howie! You ain't right putting $10K into an '85, LOL! That's what I like about you, though. You do things for the passion, not 'cause they're logical. Sorta like flying to Memphis after your SERK broke down, just so you could be with us! :2vrolijk_21:
Be sure and take some before and after photos. You know the drill . . .
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Hey Brian, you know I ain't right man! :2vrolijk_21:
I love that bike and it's going to the grave with me! Try this for starters. It has the pics of my '85 FXWG and my 89" EVO Pro Street.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=9528.msg150977#msg150977
You can use these as the before pics for now. I'll get more before I take it apart. It's gonna be better than ever now!
I tell you what else ain't right. I called my friend back and told him that I'll have a spare 4-speed/Evo drivetrain now. I asked him to find me an old rigid frame and front end and I'm also gonna build a 4-speed Evo Chopper with a 200 tire! Why the hell not! ;)
And as for the passion for this.........................................I LOVE THIS CHIT! :o
Hoist! 8)
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The occasional trips to NYC are going to be a lot more pleasant what with a spare bike all CVO'd up to ride while there :drink: :huepfenlol2: .
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Howie sounds like fun. Are you planning to wrench these 2 projects yourself in your garage? If so I will come up on weeknds and give you a hand. Later,Q
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The occasional trips to NYC are going to be a lot more pleasant what with a spare bike all CVO'd up to ride while there :drink: :huepfenlol2: .
Bring it on Don. We'll be waiting for you!
Hoist! 8)
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Howie sounds like fun. Are you planning to wrench these 2 projects yourself in your garage? If so I will come up on weeknds and give you a hand. Later,Q
Not this time John. My friend has a shop, and is getting me this stuff at cost and installing it. Some mods have to be made to the bike to accept this drivetrain. I'll leave it to to experts. My friend told me to throw my tools away years ago. ;D
But with the stuff I yank out, I was thinking of throwing together a little rigid chopper. I might mess with that one myself. And you're certainly welcome to give me a hand if I get that one going! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Not this time John. My friend has a shop, and is getting me this stuff at cost and installing it. Some mods have to be made to the bike to accept this drivetrain. I'll leave it to to experts. My friend told me to throw my tools away years ago. ;D
But with the stuff I yank out, I was thinking of throwing together a little rigid chopper. I might mess with that one myself. And you're certainly welcome to give me a hand if I get that one going! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
Howie,
Sounds great, look forward to seeing the finish product, both of them!
Ed :pepper:
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Howie,
Sounds great, look forward to seeing the finish product, both of them!
Ed :pepper:
Thanks Ed! :2vrolijk_21:
The new Drivetrain should be in next week, but if my SERK's not ready for Neal's, I'll be bringing this bike up, and wait until Nov to start the work. I might wait anyway, as Twincam (Randy) is planning on coming to NYC first week of Nov. on business. I'll need a second bike to show my CVOHarley guests around the City, won't I? ;)
Hoist! 8)
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More POWER to ya , I loved my FXDWG3 but needed the bagger, if I ever get to a point in life I can get another I will
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More new chit for my '85 CVO FXWG project. I found this really cool front end for $950. Ordered it today. When it comes in, it gets shipped directly to Traxxion for AK-20 cartridge fork conversion. The original WG front end will be used for my cheapo chopper project. This is the new front end description from CCI:
"Front End Assemblies
Custom Chrome® 'Deluxe' Front Fork Kits with Billet Triple Trees and TÜV Approval Kits feature stunningly-styled chrome billet triple trees with a smooth top tree and no stem nut for the cleanest look possible. This is achieved by having the head cup tension adjustment located under the bottom tree. The distinctive beveled edges of the trees have a unique look that's hard to beat. Every kit comes complete with our chrome or polished FXST style 1984 thru 1999 dual or single disc fork sliders and tube assemblies. Each kit includes the Timken bearings, dust shields, jam nuts, pinch bolts, fork stops, slider bushings, seals and retaining clips. Single Disc Front End Kits."
Still trying to confirm fit of the FL 300 mm BiTubos for use with this bike. (anyone know?) I also ordered new PM cailpers front and rear, Russell front and rear floating rotors, new wiring harness complete, new Speedo and ignition switch. I'm using the 10" WO 10" apes I have on 6" risers. I think I'll get new hand and foot controls too. :o
I'm stripping the rest of the bike down and having the frame and swingarm repowdercoated. New bushings/bearings for the swingarm. I think I got everything. Did I miss something? :nixweiss:
Everything that's being replaced will be used for my cheapo chopper project. This way I'm not just replacing working stuff with new. I'll be able to build a new '85 CVO FXWG, while having almost everything I need to build the cheapo chopper. Sounds like a good plan to me, even though ya'll, Binx included, thinks I've lost my mind! Well I have, but that's besides the point. I'll have the baddest '85 FXWG ever built, along with the baddest SERK3 ever built. They'll sit alongside my 89" Evo Pro Street and my new 80" Evo cheapo chopper! My stable will then be complete! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Rat rap that clutch and hand shift the Cheepochop! Keep it up, it is helping my cause Bro!!
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Miker
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Rat rap that clutch and hand shift the Cheepochop! Keep it up, it is helping my cause Bro!!
:drink: :drink: :drink:
Miker
Thinking about that miker! I might be a little old for hand shifting! ;D The 4-speed drivetrain will be the complete original stock setup from my '85. But I'm looking into jockeying it! I think right now, I'll only need a frame, tins (Frisco'd sporty tank and flat rear fender-no front fender), wheels, rear caliper, a nice Metal Flake seat, and rail sissy bar for it, and I'll have all the parts. :o
Don't wanna get carried away with the cheapo chopper too much here. That's a subject for a whole new thread! :D
This is gonna be the coolest $3000 chopper you've ever seen though! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Hoist! 8)
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More new chit for my '85 CVO FXWG project. I found this really cool front end for $950. Ordered it today. When it comes in, it gets shipped directly to Traxxion for AK-20 cartridge fork conversion. The original WG front end will be used for my cheapo chopper project. This is the new front end description from CCI:
"Front End Assemblies
Custom Chrome® 'Deluxe' Front Fork Kits with Billet Triple Trees and TÜV Approval Kits feature stunningly-styled chrome billet triple trees with a smooth top tree and no stem nut for the cleanest look possible. This is achieved by having the head cup tension adjustment located under the bottom tree. The distinctive beveled edges of the trees have a unique look that's hard to beat. Every kit comes complete with our chrome or polished FXST style 1984 thru 1999 dual or single disc fork sliders and tube assemblies. Each kit includes the Timken bearings, dust shields, jam nuts, pinch bolts, fork stops, slider bushings, seals and retaining clips. Single Disc Front End Kits."
Still trying to confirm fit of the FL 300 mm BiTubos for use with this bike. (anyone know?) I also ordered new PM cailpers front and rear, Russell front and rear floating rotors, new wiring harness complete, new Speedo and ignition switch. I'm using the 10" WO 10" apes I have on 6" risers. I think I'll get new hand and foot controls too. :o
I'm stripping the rest of the bike down and having the frame and swingarm repowdercoated. New bushings/bearings for the swingarm. I think I got everything. Did I miss something? :nixweiss:
Everything that's being replaced will be used for my cheapo chopper project. This way I'm not just replacing working stuff with new. I'll be able to build a new '85 CVO FXWG, while having almost everything I need to build the cheapo chopper. Sounds like a good plan to me, even though ya'll, Binx included, thinks I've lost my mind! Well I have, but that's besides the point. I'll have the baddest '85 FXWG ever built, along with the baddest SERK3 ever built. They'll sit alongside my 89" Evo Pro Street and my new 80" Evo cheapo chopper! My stable will then be complete! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Howie, if you wanted a new bike....... :nixweiss:
I thought you loved that bike man? Now there won't be anything left of it.
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Howie, if you wanted a new bike....... :nixweiss:
I thought you loved that bike man? Now there won't be anything left of it.
Don, the way I figured it, the bike needed some attention. It was starting to add up when looking at restoring it. Also, too much inferior chit that needs updating anyway. For 10 grand, I'll have a new 110", 6-speed, CVO style, rigid mounted setup on my 4-speed frame, with title! I'll have the best of everything. Didn't want a rubber mount or Softail, so this is the real only option. And to get a new Hot Rod Street Bike for 10 Grand! Man you can't beat that with a stick! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Just got off the phone with Dan of Traxxion. Great news! BiTubo makes 301 mm shocks for 4-speed frames. So you know, they are different from our current FL shocks. They work on FX or FL's '73 to '86, but not beyond. But BiTubo makes them, so I ordered a set for the '85. I'll ship the 2 fork legs to them for the AK-20 conversion, and they'll ship everything back to me at one time.
As far as I know, I'll have the only 4-speed frame bike set up w/AK-20's and BiTubos! CVO style baby! ;D
Hoist! 8)
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Don, the way I figured it, the bike needed some attention. It was starting to add up when looking at restoring it. Also, too much inferior chit that needs updating anyway. For 10 grand, I'll have a new 110", 6-speed, CVO style, rigid mounted setup on my 4-speed frame, with title! I'll have the best of everything. Didn't want a rubber mount or Softail, so this is the real only option. And to get a new Hot Rod Street Bike for 10 Grand! Man you can't beat that with a stick! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Was just yanking your chain pal. Had realized some simlar math. If that 10k range works out it's a heluvan upgrade for that level of expenditure. Can't wait to see the end result.
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Well I didn't plan it this way, but now I have 2 builds going at once. Vern from North Shore Motorcycle in New Hyde Park, NY is doing both of them. My SERK is described under the "Cybil" thread in the SERK Section. The CVOing of my FXWG will go on here.
The new RevTech Driveline came in. 110" Evo engine; 6-speed splined shaft transmission; complete primary assembly including heavy duty clutch assembly, comp sprocket, inner and outer primary covers, chain adjuster and chain; 1.7 kw starter; all the hardware and miscellaneous stuff. The new WG front end should be in anytime now. The forks will be sent to Traxxion for the AK-20 when it comes in. The BiTubos have shipped from Italy, and should be here soon too. I told Dan to hold them til the forks are done, and ship everything together. The new PM calipers, Russell floating rotors, and new hand and and foot controls should be here soon too. The rear Thunderstar wheel showed up today. Hopefully we'll have everything for the bike in before Thanksgiving. Then I'll bring the bike in for the rebuilding. I'll keep you guys posted!
I thought about this long and hard, and decided I loved this bike too much not to make it new again. You can't get this frame and it will make for quite a unique bike. Anyone can own a Superglide. But only I can build an '85 CVO FXWG! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Definitely, I think a blog would be a great place for you. That, afterall, is what you're doing here, blogging.
http://www.blogger.com
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Definitely, I think a blog would be a great place for you. That, afterall, is what you're doing here, blogging.
http://www.blogger.com
:indian_chief:
That would be perfect.
"In simple terms, a blog is a web site, where you write stuff on an ongoing basis. New stuff shows up at the top, so your visitors can read what's new. Then they comment on it or link to it or email you. Or not."
Good idea Chief.
Also should we wait till it's done to explain that no matter how much money is spent it will never be a CVO.
You would think someone would know better than that.
And besides, considering the track record with that 07 CVO there isn't a lot of hope.
We can only hope the HVO turns out better.
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I'm not interested in furnishing any info outside this forum. If you're not interested in the subject, don't read it. If others aren't interested, just let me know. I won't share my experience with the group. Sounds simple enough to me. :confused5:
Hoist! 8)
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how many times have you guys complained about Hoist's threads.
he's too wordy
i cant read it all without getting bored
but you keep coming back and reading......
and you keep makeing the same replies......
you dont like his posts, dont read them.
i'd bet more people are sick of seeing those posts then have a problem with Hoist's
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Aye Aye! Ride him like a bike they do....
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I'm not interested in furnishing any info outside this forum. If you're not interested in the subject, don't read it. If others aren't interested, just let me know. I won't share my experience with the group. Sounds simple enough to me. :confused5:
Hoist! 8)
Fine! I make a suggestion that I think would help people that are intersted in keeping up with what's going on in a more compact and researchable manner and you just piss all over it. FYH!!!
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Fine! I make a suggestion that I think would help people that are intersted in keeping up with what's going on in a more compact and researchable manner and you just piss all over it. FYH!!!
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Taking this pretty personal, huh Chief. I never say that to my friends. It tells me something about you.
Hoist! 8)
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Well I didn't plan it this way, but now I have 2 builds going at once. Vern from North Shore Motorcycle in New Hyde Park, NY is doing both of them. My SERK is described under the "Cybil" thread in the SERK Section. The CVOing of my FXWG will go on here.
The new RevTech Driveline came in. 110" Evo engine; 6-speed splined shaft transmission; complete primary assembly including heavy duty clutch assembly, comp sprocket, inner and outer primary covers, chain adjuster and chain; 1.7 kw starter; all the hardware and miscellaneous stuff. The new WG front end should be in anytime now. The forks will be sent to Traxxion for the AK-20 when it comes in. The BiTubos have shipped from Italy, and should be here soon too. I told Dan to hold them til the forks are done, and ship everything together. The new PM calipers, Russell floating rotors, and new hand and and foot controls should be here soon too. The rear Thunderstar wheel showed up today. Hopefully we'll have everything for the bike in before Thanksgiving. Then I'll bring the bike in for the rebuilding. I'll keep you guys posted!
I thought about this long and hard, and decided I loved this bike too much not to make it new again. You can't get this frame and it will make for quite a unique bike. Anyone can own a Superglide. But only I can build an '85 CVO FXWG! ;)
Hoist! 8)
A very unique bike for a very unique rider ;D
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Sounds like an ambitious project. It will be great to see it completed (with lots of progress pics). Hopefully this post will remain on the lighter side rather than getting into a pi$$ing match! :P
Dave
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Best to ya on this build, Howie! Sounds VERY exciting. Can't wait to see the end product! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Some progress on this bike too now. The BiTubo's are in. The new front forks are in, and were shipped down to Traxxion for the AK-20 conversion. By the time we get Cybil finished, all of the parts for this bike should be here, and we can tackle transforming this bike into a modern version of a brand new CVO style '85 FXWG! Then I can start building the 4-speed rigid Evo Choppa with all the take-offs from the WG! The fun never ends! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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sounds like it will be a screamer,,,( BiTubo's )not familiar with this one.....help a brutha out,,,and that traxxion stuff,,,is it worth the extreemly high price tag??
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sounds like it will be a screamer,,,( BiTubo's )not familiar with this one.....help a brutha out,,,and that traxxion stuff,,,is it worth the extreemly high price tag??
Got both from Traxxion. The BiTubo's are Italian sportbike type shocks, and are the best I've ever felt. And the Traxxion AK-20 cartridge conversion is the cat's ass! Well worth the $$$. Between both of these, I've never ridden a HD that rides and handles like my SERK does. I don't think I'll ever not have these on any bike I own now! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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TODAY'S UPDATE:
UPS is delivering the new Traxxion equipped front end and BiTubos to me tomorrow. The entire drivetrain is waiting. New hand and foot controls, new matching rear wheel, new PM brakes, new tires! :2vrolijk_21:
As soon as the Cybil gets completed (hopefully by the end of the year), I can bring the '85 WG in for her transformation! We're stripping it down completely, welding on any tabs or plates needed to add the 110" 6-speed, new front end, etc, and sending the frame and swingarm out for powdercoating. When it gets back, we'll assemble it with all the the new parts, and a brand new wiring harness! :)
I'll have a brand new bike for under 15 Grand! And so much better than any new bike I can buy today! And I'll also have enough parts that all I'll need is a frame and tins, to have all the parts I'll need to build a cool little rigid! :o (Geez, just what my back needs! ::) )
Stay tuned for progress on this bike! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Cant wait ,get them parts down here!! ,well do it ourselfs ;D,,we will be doing burnouts by the new year on her!! :o,,cant wait to see it ,,,we will FOR SURE do some break-in miles 2gether ,till then ,headpan
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Hand shifted lil rigid....?