Well my goodness what a difference a year makes. It appears so far that the Vance & Hines/Indian Race team have found the special sauce. And are whipping some serious ass.
Indian took first and second place in both races at Daytona. Then Indian took first and second place in race 1 at Road Atlanta (Harley took thrid). Then Indian swept the podium in Race 2. Wow, clearly Indian is on a roll. I have read that Terry Vance of Vance & Hines took over the Indian race team and re-designed a completely new bike from the ground up. Well what ever Indian has done it is working spectacularly.

Harley better go back to the drawing board quickly.

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Yeah, a dealer has some sway over Harley's decisions in the 2 year factory warranty period. They have gotten more stringent in the past few years.

Oh boy yes they have.

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Also Harley replaced (under original factory warranty) my entire motor 110 ci of my 2015 CVO Streetglide because the umbrella valves failed causing oil to spew out of the breather and scar the cylinder walls. It had an S&S 475 cam in it at the time.

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Yeah, a dealer has some sway over Harley's decisions in the 2 year factory warranty period. They have gotten more stringent in the past few years.

Okay, now it makes perfect sense. A dealer who installs an aftermarket cam/tuner etc on a SE motor or kit should take the responsibility of stepping up when there is a problem with the motor. Harley would most certainly not cover it even if the bike was under warranty time period. Since your bike is 5+ years old and has plenty of miles on it since you had the upgrade done at purchase, the CNA person is getting squirelly. Any way, best of luck. Keep us updated on the fix.

You may be 100% correct and I may be chit out of luck. I don't blame the dealer because I chose the cam. Interesting you mentioned tuner. That was the very first thing the CNA inspector checked was the tuner and making sure it hadn't been modified. Harley came under FTC sanctions a while back. I don't remember how long ago. Because Harley was voiding warranties solely and completely based on an aftermarket part being installed. Even though the aftermarket part was not the culprit of the damage. I am no lawyer by any means. But supposedly the Magnusson-Moss Warranty act of the 1970's dictated that warranty companies must prove an aftermarket part was the cause of said damage to deny a claim.

Also Harley replaced (under original factory warranty) my entire motor 110 ci of my 2015 CVO Streetglide because the umbrella valves failed causing oil to spew out of the breather and scar the cylinder walls. It had an S&S 475 cam in it at the time.

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I had them do the front forks on my 2022 CVO RGL. I've got 20k+ miles on those forks and really like the improvement. Still running Legend Revo A's in the rear, happy with them as well.

Okay, now it makes perfect sense. A dealer who installs an aftermarket cam/tuner etc on a SE motor or kit should take the responsibility of stepping up when there is a problem with the motor. Harley would most certainly not cover it even if the bike was under warranty time period. Since your bike is 5+ years old and has plenty of miles on it since you had the upgrade done at purchase, the CNA person is getting squirelly. Any way, best of luck. Keep us updated on the fix.

Yes, purchased the 2021 CVO new from local dealer. They took bike from floor to shop to install 131 kit. And that's a great question....."what failed first". I don't think anyone can concretely prove what failed first. Yes I'm sure a master mechanic or perhaps a metallurgist could give a reasonable theory about which failed first. But I don't think anyone can prove what failed first. I could be wrong. Cam bearing exploded for lack of a better word. The lifters were flattened. Cam itself had intense scarring on the lobes. The hole where the cam bearing goes was hogged out so to speak. The cylinder walls were scarred. 

So what happened first? I truly don't know.

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So it wasn't an HD camshaft. If it wasn't an HD cam, did the installing dealership warn you of the possibility of claim denial?
It would be nice to know if having an HD camshaft would have made a difference.

It was a cycle-rama 512 cam. No dealer didn't warn me about possible non-warranty coverage.

The CNA ( extended warranty company) supervisor i spoke with changed his tune in mid conversation.  First he was lobbying that the cam caused the malfunction thus since cam was aftermarket deny claim. Then when I pushed back and said there was no way to prove the cam was the root of the problem. He tried to support his claim that the cam destroyed the cam bearing thus causing all the subsequent damage. I pushed back harder saying there was no way in hell CNA or any one could prove that. And under the federal Magnusson-Moss Warranty act of the 1970's unless you could prove the aftermarket part started, caused all the damage you couldn't deny the claim. Then, right then the CNA changed his tune and said. By merely having an aftermarket part voided the contract.  I told him I believe he was wrong and violated the federal act. So here we are.

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Is this on the 2021 SESG with the dealer installed 131? When you say motor exploded, was it failed lifters or oil pump?

Yes, purchased the 2021 CVO new from local dealer. They took bike from floor to shop to install 131 kit. And that's a great question....."what failed first". I don't think anyone can concretely prove what failed first. Yes I'm sure a master mechanic or perhaps a metallurgist could give a reasonable theory about which failed first. But I don't think anyone can prove what failed first. I could be wrong. Cam bearing exploded for lack of a better word. The lifters were flattened. Cam itself had intense scarring on the lobes. The hole where the cam bearing goes was hogged out so to speak. The cylinder walls were scarred. 

So what happened first? I truly don't know.

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Some buddies and I rode down to Freebornes in Laurel Springs NC yesterday. None of us had been down there in a few years and the weather here was absolutely fabulous for April. After a delicious lunch, we rode down the Parkway to RT 16 and back up across The Back of the Dragon to Tazewell, stopping at the Dragon Store for a refreshing beverage before heading back to the bunker.

Just over 207 miles on a sunny Saturday in the beautiful hills of WV, VA and NC with good friends and good food. Who could ask for more?

So it wasn't an HD camshaft. If it wasn't an HD cam, did the installing dealership warn you of the possibility of claim denial?
It would be nice to know if having an HD camshaft would have made a difference.

Hence my question. The 131 kit I had on my 2017 cvo limited came with a SE 517 cam.