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CVO Technical => Milwaukee-Eight => Topic started by: muddypaws on August 07, 2017, 08:04:20 PM
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How many turn on the system to turn the rear cylinder off when the motor is hot in traffic? It makes the bike sound like crap.
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Rear is on in our "winter" and off in summer. Definite heat reduction when off.
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I use it. Don't care how bad it sounds. :o
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Have never used in on my 15. Even living in Florida bike has never felt hot enough to turn it on.
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Always on. On the M8 (unsure about the TC) it actually increases the idle speed a bit which is OK as the normal idle seems a bit low to me.
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I was a necessity on my 2007 and the 2012, both of which were only air cooled (not the dual cool system). Out of habit, I have it active on the new bike and notice it comes on sooner, but there is no real heat issue, I just have it on. The sound doesn't bother me, but on the older bikes it put out a pretty foul stench...haven't noticed it on this one yet.
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I leave mine on. It's a Harley, I already know it's crap
How many turn on the system to turn the rear cylinder off when the motor is hot in traffic? It makes the bike sound like crap.
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How many turn on the system to turn the rear cylinder off when the motor is hot in traffic? It makes the bike sound like crap.
ETMS is always off on my bike. I try not to get in traffic.
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It's on on my bike. I do agree, It does sound like crap.
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on!
The D&D sounds horrible when it kicks in.
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I replaced the Harley ECM with Thunder Max, which disables the EIMTS. Thunder Max compensates overheating by changing the mixture. I logged into my ECM and you can see the logged temps and number of times the heads were at certain temps. I have hit 264 degrees 4 times (105 ambient air temps), long before the warning light comes on to warn you of heat or risk auto shutdown.
I have a D&D 2-1 and Fat Cat tail, always sounds great~! plus, this combination with TM auto tune increases horsepower from the standard 65 to 95.
Chuck
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First off I don't own a M8 and don't foresee one in my future, the HD EMITS is configured one way, not very well explained by the technical writers. Then there is the way TTS is configured for this feature.
I have my ancient HD with TTS tune in open loop at idle at 13.6 for a reason, I've got the EMITS enabled but have never noticed it going to skip fire mode. When I do get caught in situations where at a standstill I simply turn my engine off, yeah I know it's hard on the starter but that's what I choose to do.
YMMV
TN
I'm sorry my idle is set at 13.8, just paying attention to detail here. :orange:
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Always keep mine off paranoid about a failed compensator and like others mentioned try and avoid traffic.
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EMITS Disabled on mine. Never been enabled on the '15. Been caught in Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg traffic a few times in July. Radiator fans kick on so cooling accomplished. I don't/didn't like the 1940's John Deere tractor sound/feeling of the EMITS when it worked on my '12.
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Always keep mine off paranoid about a failed compensator and like others mentioned try and avoid traffic.
what effect would the eitms have on the compensator?
I leave mine on, but traffic here is not so bad. I don't notice it that often.
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Have to ask, what is the deal on rear cylinder cut-out effecting compensator?
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My theory (and yes only a theory) is when EITMS is active it is the equivalent of you trying to pedal a bicycle with only one foot on a pedal. I think that puts a tremendous strain on the crankshaft and the compensator.
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Compensator is used as a shock absorber between drive train and clutch. If bike is not in gear is not under a load. When rear cylinder is shut down, it's function is basically that of an air pump. Not aware of any excess stress on crank or compensator due to rear cylinder shut down.
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Compensator is used as a shock absorber between drive train and clutch. If bike is not in gear is not under a load. When rear cylinder is shut down, it's function is basically that of an air pump. Not aware of any excess stress on crank or compensator due to rear cylinder shut down.
Right, and the cylinder is not really shutdown, just the injection is stopped and so as you say it's just pumping air so mechanically with regards to the drive train it's the same as during ignition.
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I'm having a FuelPak installed next week and wonder if that disables it. I had turned mine off on the 2014 Limited but then again, I had a FuelPak on that too.
I do notice the cooling fans run frequently on the 2017 CVO, whereas the 2014 Limited's fans rarely ran. I'm thinking they lowered the temp activation. Anyone else notice that?
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In 2015 they changed the threshold so the fans will come on at an outside air (ambient air) temp of 80 degrees, regardless of engine temp.
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Thanks! Good to know. I guess the real issue is oil temp and I don't have a temp guage yet.
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I'm having a FuelPak installed next week and wonder if that disables it. I had turned mine off on the 2014 Limited but then again, I had a FuelPak on that too.
I do notice the cooling fans run frequently on the 2017 CVO, whereas the 2014 Limited's fans rarely ran. I'm thinking they lowered the temp activation. Anyone else notice that?
Am currently in Blueridge Georgia riding the curves on vacation. Friend of mine is with me on his M8 107 EITMS enabled. My 2015 110 disabled for the first time this week because it sounded like it was coming apart each time it kicked on at the beginning of our trip.
I notice that when we stop and shut down, his fans will always be running. Mine will either run for half the time or not at all. Don't plan on turing mine back on.
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I have a fuel pak. . I do use the the feature because it's so hot here. . It works fine. You shouldn't have problems problems due to that. . Stuart