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CVO Technical => Twin Cam => Topic started by: Pan1 on August 31, 2017, 09:47:39 PM

Title: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Pan1 on August 31, 2017, 09:47:39 PM
Looking for recommendations on a HD CVO 110 upgrade using the HD 117 kit. The bike is a 2015 CVO RG  with Fullsac DX pipe on high flow mufflers. I'm looking for the torque and hp to be down in the rpm range around 2,500 rpm. Which cam pulls better down low?
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: cvosjoe on August 31, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
Looking for recommendations on a HD CVO 110 upgrade using the HD 117 kit. The bike is a 2015 CVO RG  with Fullsac DX pipe on high flow mufflers. I'm looking for the torque and hp to be down in the rpm range around 2,500 rpm. Which cam pulls better down low?
585 would be better for the rpm range you use and will work well with the compression the kit pistons are rated at. I  would suggest a .030 or .027 head gasket. Depending on where the piston sits in the hole should get you around 10.2 to 1 static.

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Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Mr D on September 01, 2017, 12:25:08 AM
Looking for recommendations on a HD CVO 110 upgrade using the HD 117 kit. The bike is a 2015 CVO RG  with Fullsac DX pipe on high flow mufflers. I'm looking for the torque and hp to be down in the rpm range around 2,500 rpm. Which cam pulls better down low?

If you're leaving the heads alone, I'd recommend a TTS 150
Works very well with the 117 drop kit
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: VANAMAL on September 01, 2017, 12:28:56 AM
I think the 259 runs fine.A bonus is that the top end is quiet. Im real happy with my 117 kit
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Mr D on September 01, 2017, 12:31:04 AM
I think the 259 runs fine.A bonus is that the top end is quiet. Im real happy with my 117 kit

259 @ 10.8 runs real good, likes compression
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: HD Street Performance on September 01, 2017, 10:16:17 AM
Correct
What 585 are you refering to?
Tman, S&S, SE?
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Pan1 on September 01, 2017, 12:13:14 PM
Thank you for the responses . I am seeking comparison of HD SE cams
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Johnny Walker on September 01, 2017, 12:47:17 PM
Correct
What 585 are you refering to?
Tman, S&S, SE?

Please forgive me for jumping in here on someone else's thread but I have a question. I have a 2013 CVO Road King with the Screaming Eagle 110. I have the Cobra Powerflo 4 1/2" slip on's and the Cobra FI200 Powerpro Black tuner and K&N Air Cleaner. I am going to have some warranty work done to replace the lifters. Since they are going to replace the lifters I want to also upgrade the cam without touching the heads or valve springs. I plan on decatting my existing headers. I'm not a hot rodder by any means but do like to roll on some power from time to time. Very seldom to I ever hit 4000 rpm.  With that being said what cam would you recommend to give me the most power without having to change valve springs ? Thanks..
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: HD Street Performance on September 01, 2017, 01:42:54 PM
Thank you for the responses . I am seeking comparison of HD SE cams
The SE 585 with no kit changes other than the tune will better match your needs.
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Johnny Walker on September 01, 2017, 01:47:15 PM
Than you for your help. If I already have the Cobra black tuner will I still need a tune ?  From what I understand, and I'm not really all that knowledgeable in these areas, won't the tuner take care of any necessary adjustments?
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: HD Street Performance on September 01, 2017, 02:05:18 PM
Tuners of this type will only trim fuel. Consider a tts or power vision and a professional dyno tune. All areas get a dressed properly with a flash over the original map.
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Johnny Walker on September 01, 2017, 02:24:56 PM
Tuners of this type will only trim fuel. Consider a tts or power vision and a professional dyno tune. All areas get a dressed properly with a flash over the original map.

Ahhhhh, ok.. Guess I just threw away a bunch of money on a tuner I thought would do more.. damn.. lol  Thanks so much for your help..If I get a dyno tune after installation of the 585 cams will the Cobra tuner that I have be of any use at all ?
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: HD Street Performance on September 01, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
It will help get the fuel closer but not exactly right. It does not even monitor or use the AFR values based on the O2 sensor readings.  :nixweiss:
The further you move away from stock spec the worse this tuner will work. Another big disadvantage is no memory. Turn the key off and values of changes are lost and on the next fire up they must be learned again. This can take a while on a non-stock spec motor.

The 585 is a short cam and will need timing changes which this tuner will not handle.

Tell us where you are at and maybe I or another user can suggest a dyno shop to help guide you.
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Johnny Walker on September 01, 2017, 11:30:17 PM
Nashville TN area.
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: georgw221 on September 02, 2017, 07:30:39 AM
Nashville TN area.
Give Sheffer Performance a call He's in Evansville In , One of the best around!! You can also find him on Facebook. or Call @ 812-401-8863
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Johnny Walker on September 02, 2017, 09:04:31 AM
Thank you so much for your help.. it's greatly appreciated.. Deuces
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: HD Street Performance on September 02, 2017, 10:25:11 AM
Give Sheffer Performance a call He's in Evansville In , One of the best around!! You can also find him on Facebook. or Call @ 812-401-8863
+1
Good tuner and worth the ride
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Johnny Walker on September 02, 2017, 11:51:54 AM
 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: Mr D on September 02, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
Nashville TN area.

 :2vrolijk_21: https://www.facebook.com/jandbperformance/

Brandon is a vendor here too
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: cvosjoe on September 03, 2017, 08:52:03 PM
:2vrolijk_21: https://www.facebook.com/jandbperformance/

Brandon is a vendor here too
He tuned my 117. 141HP 145TQ
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: HD Street Performance on September 03, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Yep another good one
Title: Re: 259e or 585 cam
Post by: RoadDawg on September 07, 2017, 08:56:15 AM
I have the 259 cams that came with the kit. Dyno shows a 119 tq. at 2500 rpm.