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Title: 124 build
Post by: goop on December 05, 2017, 11:49:20 PM
I have a 2016 cvo street glide I'm doing motor build with Drago's bike works. I'm going with a P3R crank with Carrillo rods. Drago's domed pistons. S&s cylinders. Drago's 630 cam also having the heads done to there 2.8 spec. Hoping to be in the 135+ on HP and TQ. What ya guys think
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on December 05, 2017, 11:52:00 PM
Also updating the clutch basket and clutch. Going with a 49 tooth clutch gear and a compensator eliminator
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: yobtaf103 on December 06, 2017, 01:55:06 AM
I have a 2016 cvo street glide I'm doing motor build with Drago's bike works. I'm going with a P3R crank with Carrillo rods. Drago's domed pistons. S&s cylinders. Drago's 630 cam also having the heads done to there 2.8 spec. Hoping to be in the 135+ on HP and TQ. What ya guys think

Sounds a mighty solid bottom end that, so as @Dragos go all in & get him to fit up an Aerocharger setup instead !!
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Unbalanced on December 06, 2017, 03:29:03 PM
I have a 2016 cvo street glide I'm doing motor build with Drago's bike works. I'm going with a P3R crank with Carrillo rods. Drago's domed pistons. S&s cylinders. Drago's 630 cam also having the heads done to there 2.8 spec. Hoping to be in the 135+ on HP and TQ. What ya guys think

On the wife's 124 I just did a similar build and was very close to the 135 squared number with a dragula pipe.   The only difference was I used his piston as a flattop and the 640 S&S Cam, Plate and pump.   The build is on here somewhere.   The compression was set to low 190's cranking and used MVA heads reworked by Sachs.   Are you putting in the 2.120 valve to close the valve to throat in your head?

Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Unbalanced on December 06, 2017, 06:15:15 PM
Also updating the clutch basket and clutch. Going with a 49 tooth clutch gear and a compensator eliminator

What clutch are you going with?
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on December 06, 2017, 07:11:41 PM
Aim clutch, was thinking of using the evolution clutch setup but was told it's a hard clutch to squeeze. I don't think we are going with the 2.1 valves
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Unbalanced on December 06, 2017, 08:12:50 PM
Does Frank have your crank or motor/bike yet?

Aim clutch, was thinking of using the evolution clutch setup but was told it's a hard clutch to squeeze. I don't think we are going with the 2.1 valves

If you are doing the complete Aim CF2 you might consider buying the 400 spring as well as the 480 to play with it.   Also recommend ordering the orange and white springs if you don't get them it might help setup the clutch. 

the larger valve 2.120 or 2.150,  if you are doing the headwork should help make power as you have a better valve to throat ratio.   Might want to check with Frank on that one.   I thought he did the 2.150 with 1.635 combo, but you'd need to validate with him.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on December 07, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
unbalanced- frank laughed when i called him and asked about the valve size. i see you 2 know each other well lol. yes he is going with the 2.150-1.650 valves. frank is a great guy to deal with and a wealth of knowledge. i love talking to the guy everytime i go there. not to mention looking at all the cool builds
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: hrdtail78 on December 07, 2017, 11:37:09 AM
Did you ask for Carrillo's?  I thought Frank usually used a different rod w/ PR3's.  Build looks good and best of luck to ya.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Unbalanced on December 07, 2017, 03:50:09 PM
Did you ask for Carrillo's?  I thought Frank usually used a different rod w/ PR3's.  Build looks good and best of luck to ya.

He is defaulting to the ultimate rod now, wasn’t a lot of data at the time so I asked for the Carrillo’s.   I will try the Ultimate Rods next go around to have a “comparison” point of view and save some bucks.   

Are the Carrillo’s overkill on the street prolly, but after all the money spent felt it was a nominal cost based on they had good feedback.


Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: hrdtail78 on December 07, 2017, 04:26:44 PM
Hytech rods from Randy have always been Ultima's.  Dark horse has been using them for years also.  I have them in 3 of my bikes.  I don't have an opinion on overkill or which is better.  I know I haven't had a problem.

Scuttlebutt?  I have been told that the ultima's aren't as hard so they tend not to break like Carrillo's, but I have been told a lot of things.  I asked because I thought Frank was using Ultima, and maybe he switch because he saw something.  Was hoping that wasn't the case.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on December 07, 2017, 05:04:56 PM
i maybe miss speaking then. what ever rod he puts in im sure is going to be what he thinks is best and im ok with that.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Unbalanced on December 07, 2017, 05:52:15 PM
Ultima is his Rod of choice


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Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on January 18, 2018, 08:53:03 AM
there she is ,in all her glory.  :pepper: she so pretty
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Scott7d on January 18, 2018, 11:29:23 AM
Almost looks too good to use!  8) Can't wait to see the results!
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: BigLew on January 18, 2018, 12:27:39 PM
Yeah me too!

BigLew
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: prodrag1320 on January 18, 2018, 12:37:43 PM
I have a 2016 cvo street glide I'm doing motor build with Drago's bike works. I'm going with a P3R crank with Carrillo rods. Drago's domed pistons. S&s cylinders. Drago's 630 cam also having the heads done to there 2.8 spec. Hoping to be in the 135+ on HP and TQ. What ya guys think

I would hope for more than that,im getting 132/141 on my 2002 RG with a 124" we built with our 110 heads,10.0-1 compression & S&S .570 cams,a VERY mild 124" build
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on January 18, 2018, 07:21:09 PM
If I'm higher on the numbers that would be great.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: mike jesse on January 18, 2018, 08:23:11 PM
I was on the PR3 web site recently and they want you to send them your old flywheels in.
What for?
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: HD Street Performance on January 19, 2018, 09:45:56 AM
Mike
As Harry, he told us in another post the P3R flywheels were 100% new parts. They were probably salvaging the shafts by machining but I think today that is no longer the case and thankfully so the stock sprocket shaft isn't that robust.

Clarified by Harry and Jason
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: hrdtail78 on January 19, 2018, 06:57:25 PM
I think he was also using the washers on either side of the rod bearing.  I was told he doesn't need them anymore.  Probably just needs to up date his site.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: Unbalanced on January 19, 2018, 10:46:53 PM
I think he was also using the washers on either side of the rod bearing.  I was told he doesn't need them anymore.  Probably just needs to up date his site.

Asked P3R about this.  His reply on the above 2 posts.

All the parts are new, I need to revamp the web site, I do NOT need cores anymore I needed the cores before for the washers but I ended up designing my own and had them made, I never built one flywheel without a set of washers

If you have any questions please give P3R a call
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on January 20, 2018, 12:13:28 AM
i did not have to send mine in.
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: HD Street Performance on January 20, 2018, 10:30:35 AM
Thanks Harry
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: mike jesse on January 27, 2018, 12:16:14 AM
Now I know. ;D
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: yobtaf103 on January 27, 2018, 11:02:00 AM
Crank Porn methinks 8)
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on February 15, 2018, 03:41:56 PM
i got my motor back yesterday from dragos now time to install it. cant wait
Title: Re: 124 build
Post by: goop on February 26, 2018, 07:40:07 AM
i got the motor and everything back in. only hicup was front head right side coolant pipe did not want to fit with the s&s throttle body 58mm throttle hog. with a little tweeking of the pipe i was able to make it work. bike fired right up. doing the heat cycles. should be able to take it for a easy spin tomorrow.