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CVO Technical => Twin Cam => Topic started by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:43:53 PM

Title: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:43:53 PM
Boxes arrived today from TMan.  Decided last winter that this was the old Road Glides last summer without a top end rebuild.  Enough miles on the bike that it's time.  Stupid (probably) to spend a ton on nearly 20 year old bike.  Love the bike so, screw it, did it anyway.

Engine has been stock as long as I've had except for small Mackie cam that went in right after I got the bike.  Whenever I get time to swap the parts this winter it won't be stock anymore.  All work built around using the TMan 625s. 
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:44:31 PM
Diamond cutting and powder coating.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:45:57 PM
It's a multi-stage powder coat that color shifts a little depending on light intensity and angle.  Hit it right there's even an almost pearl effect on the wider surfaces.  Thinkin' I'm going to like it a lot once installed.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:47:11 PM
Heads worked for the Harley automatic compression releases.  Just going to wire them off the starter circuit.  It's the easier option.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:48:21 PM
Paid them just a little extra not to use their standard beehives.  I know, fine nearly all the time.  Had one break years ago though.  Will avoid it when I can after that.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:48:53 PM
They do nice looking machine work.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 22, 2018, 11:51:33 PM
Turned out to be a poor angle to show.  But with the light straight on the engine parts color is a fair match to the darker Midnight Red that is the predominant color on the bike. 

Have a darker red air cleaner cover that was powder coated as a spare when I built the Road King.  If the Luxury Rich Red in the stock cover ends up not being a good complement when the parts are actually in side by side may swap air cleaner covers.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: ultrarider123 on August 23, 2018, 07:08:53 AM
Looking forward to this build.....as I know you are, too.... :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Dan_Lockwood on August 23, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
Them thar parts are purty... :)
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Mano on August 23, 2018, 11:32:44 AM
 :vrolijk_11:.  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Ghost Rider on August 23, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
Let me know when you start that project so I can bring over a 6 pack of Stella and watch.   :2vrolijk_09:
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 23, 2018, 02:36:52 PM
Let me know when you start that project so I can bring over a 6 pack of Stella and watch.   :2vrolijk_09:


Maybe Thanksgiving break?  Some long weekend.  Hell, maybe tonight.  I don't know. 

Actually can't be tonight.  Other parts have to get here first....   
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: BostonboyDH on August 23, 2018, 03:29:54 PM
Twolane,  With what I've seen you put together Wille G should have hired you as his replacement!!! 
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Ironhorse on August 23, 2018, 04:47:08 PM
Does the colored powder coating on the juggs help with cooling, heat dissipation?
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Finster101 on August 23, 2018, 05:56:14 PM
Does the colored powder coating on the juggs help with cooling, heat dissipation?

No but it does make it cooler.   8)
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: iski on August 23, 2018, 09:32:36 PM
It's a multi-stage powder coat that color shifts a little depending on light intensity and angle.  Hit it right there's even an almost pearl effect on the wider surfaces.  Thinkin' I'm going to like it a lot once installed.

Nice.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 23, 2018, 10:22:39 PM
Sure looks good Don. Going to be a perfect match for your bike. Can't wait to see the outside
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 23, 2018, 10:26:50 PM
Twolane,  With what I've seen you put together Wille G should have hired you as his replacement!!!


Not sure I could have followed in Willie's footsteps.  After all, I don't need to put skulls on a jock strap... :drink:
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 23, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
Does the colored powder coating on the juggs help with cooling, heat dissipation?


Mark, any difference is minimal.  The original powder coating is removed before the new goes on.  So while the new coat may be slightly thicker it's not as extreme as one might initially think.  In this case it's a two stage powder/clear so, again, a little additive difference.  Not extreme though. 

The other engine I did in this way I was curious about.  So took a few temp measures on different days before disassembly and kept track of the data.  Then after the engine was built took measures again on days of comparable weather.

In the before and after comparison I did see slightly more heat.  In comparisons that were admittedly difficult to keep precisely even I did see that slightly greater heat after those rides that were as comparable as I could make them.  Even then, however, I could not blame all of the relatively small difference I saw on the powder coat work since part of the engine work included work that raised the compression and changed other factors in the engine that, by themselves, would have generated more heat/power.

It'll be the same with this one.  Going from a basically 95" engine with a small cam to 98" with compression up around 10.2:1 and the 625 cams.  Even if the stock powder coating were still in place the engine would generate a little more heat.

My only actual concern with the heat question though is that the first generation SERGs didn't come with an oil cooler.  I've never had reason to add one.  With this bit of engine work it's something I might end up doing.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 23, 2018, 10:46:41 PM
Sure looks good Don. Going to be a perfect match for your bike. Can't wait to see the outside

That is definitely affirmed my friend.  Still have to get a cam plate and oil pump on the way.  After that all the parts will be in hand.  Then will just need to find or make a happy weekend to give the bike it's goodies.  Really looking forward to feeling the difference in the before and after ride.  I'm a big fan of the performance profiles of the bikes I've ridden built correctly around this cam.  So it's like the old Carly Simon song; "Anticipation...."  :2vrolijk_21: .
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: BostonboyDH on August 24, 2018, 01:40:40 PM

Not sure I could have followed in Willie's footsteps.  After all, I don't need to put skulls on a jock strap... :drink:

     :D :D :D
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 24, 2018, 06:00:58 PM
That is definitely affirmed my friend.  Still have to get a cam plate and oil pump on the way.  After that all the parts will be in hand.  Then will just need to find or make a happy weekend to give the bike it's goodies.  Really looking forward to feeling the difference in the before and after ride.  I'm a big fan of the performance profiles of the bikes I've ridden built correctly around this cam.  So it's like the old Carly Simon song; "Anticipation...."  :2vrolijk_21: .

That cam has been on my thoughts also to replace the one in the 117, just not sure if its enough bang for buck to make the change. Hope your happy weekend comes soon for you
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: yobtaf103 on August 24, 2018, 07:54:15 PM
Looks a fine build you got going on there twolane,
my fav cam done a 110 bolt-on  96" Fatboy, also in my 117 CVO softail
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Scott7d on August 24, 2018, 09:42:24 PM
Congratulations on the new parts! My friends give me Hell for spending what I do on my bike. I've put more into it than what it's worth. But when you find "the one", resale value isn't a concern. We work to have fun! Hope the build goes well.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: Twolanerider on August 24, 2018, 11:08:49 PM
Congratulations on the new parts! My friends give me Hell for spending what I do on my bike. I've put more into it than what it's worth. But when you find "the one", resale value isn't a concern. We work to have fun! Hope the build goes well.

I understand and that really is the way I am with this old Road Glide.  It is so dialed in to me.  Bars, seat, windscreen, everything.  There's nothing with it I am dissatisfied with and I so completely distrust the MoCo's new efforts.  It's not difficult to maintain and I know every nut and bolt and wire tie on the bike.  Is it worth (to most) spending a few grand on?  Course not.  Worth it to me though.  The bike makes me happy.  It's all good.
Title: Re: Parts to Make Your Special Places Tingle (in a good way)
Post by: BostonboyDH on August 25, 2018, 12:13:15 AM
  Your model is the Godfather to them all and it is distinctly yours!!!!