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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2015, 07:14:20 AM »

I'll take that RED line all day, that penis line means nothing in the whole scheme of things, unless your using it to try and sell something.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2015, 08:12:31 AM »

Are the mufflers the Mellow Crushers??

Not sure which Crusher Steve put on this recent build but mine are the Mellows.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2015, 08:22:55 AM »

mellow or non mellow they both make the same power so dont not stress over that. Those are the non mellow.

Undestand even the one with the dip is a freaking rocket ship to ride..  But when you line them all up and say do a roll on at 2750 , not much is going to change be a darn good race.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2015, 08:50:14 AM »

Thank you Steve I did not know the numbers were the same between Mellow and Non-Mellow
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2015, 09:23:20 AM »

You are welcome, I did testing on both set of mufflers on a 103 with 54 cams.. It had true dual head pipes and I ran both set back to back after I had tuned the bike. It had non mellow as my t est pipes are mellows.  Test mufflers have come in handy.

Below is another 113 that we did. I was tuning with the mufflers he brought that had a 2.0 core It was giving me fits. I spent a bunch of time checking things as I had never seen a bike do this. It would start the pull and feel like it was breaking up. I checked all kinds of things it had a killer clutch in I banged in the heaviest springs,  swapped plugs and wires .. In the end the muffler was the issue.. It had a 2.0 core and the core was 20+ inches long however it was only louvered for maybe 10 inches at the end..  I swapped out for my test crushers.. and what you see is a back to back.. I would not have believed that a muffler would do that.. I have seen some odd test's but this one was bugger.   

Now I will add that the muffler worked very well on the bike as both a 103 and 107 with 555 and 777 woods cams. The final runs are with a woods 777 cam. But once we took the engine to 113 CI the mufflers where not up to the task.. For the record they where not fulsac mufflers. Steve and I did have a long talk about it he saw the graphs and I sent him pictures of the baffle as well.. He did comment that the style of baffle that I had in this muffler was not the best based on his own testing.







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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 01:25:06 PM »

Thanks for the "real world" testing and data :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2015, 04:31:39 PM »

Just did this one today.. 103 our 577 cam customer did the install bone stock engine cam swap only.. I tuned the Rinehart and then swapped the pipe for the rush 2-1. Goes to show when " you hear about peak numbers " that maybe there really is more to it then just that.

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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2015, 07:22:46 PM »

Is that standard or wrath ?
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2015, 07:52:46 PM »

Steve , would like to see a X pipe form TH how would compare to others, I am sure will beat all of them ...  ;D
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2015, 08:09:02 AM »

STD rush 2.5 baffle  as for the thunder header Would be a great test have to wait and see who has one on a 110 that we take to 113 with our cam.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2015, 08:34:09 AM »

Just did this one today.. 103 our 577 cam customer did the install bone stock engine cam swap only.. I tuned the Rinehart and then swapped the pipe for the rush 2-1. Goes to show when " you hear about peak numbers " that maybe there really is more to it then just that.



Steve, was the Rinehart a 2X1 ? Wondered how they tune.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2015, 09:49:13 AM »

Yes it was a 2-1 pipe on a 103. They tune ok no real issue there but I have to say I have tuned them on everything from 95 inch bikes to 124 and never seen a build yet that I fell in love with the curve.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2015, 07:37:14 PM »

Yes it was a 2-1 pipe on a 103. They tune ok no real issue there but I have to say I have tuned them on everything from 95 inch bikes to 124 and never seen a build yet that I fell in love with the curve.

Thanks, what I had heard.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2015, 12:53:43 PM »

I see Harley riders swapping mufflers all the time based on sound alone and never think a minute about how they might affect the motor. Tuning reports like these ought to make a guy think twice about how important sound is.
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Re: Budget 113 builds
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2015, 08:14:06 AM »

Steve, would the Rush with a 2" baffle help the low end tq a little? Would be a few decibel's quieter too.
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