Topic: Dyno Tuning Without a Tuner? (Read 9457 times)

Puma · « **on:** August 07, 2015, 04:24:14 PM »

You saw that subject right. There's a new indy shop here in NJ that is advertising free Dyno tune with the purchase of a full exhaust and installation. They are saying you don't need to buy any "expensive devices" just a licensing fee. I'm sure someone knows what they are talking about. Educate me on what they are using and is it a real tune or just a download like they do at the stealers? I think most of these guys were dealer mechanics who quit to start their own place after a dispute with the owner.

grc · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2015, 04:50:19 PM »

Do a search for Direct Link. I think that's what you're talking about.

Jerry

Puma · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2015, 05:11:48 PM »

Quote from: grc on August 07, 2015, 04:50:19 PM

Do a search for Direct Link. I think that's what you're talking about.

Jerry

Thanks Jerry. I haven't talked to anyone at this new place yet, but that is probably what they use. Some quick research turned up a few disadvantages. One is that you are limited as to where you can get things adjusted later on. But it does seem to do the job.

grc · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2015, 05:14:40 PM »

Btw, if you never plan to have the desire to use your tuning software to look around, or tweak a setting in the ECM, or do a V-tune type of thing, perhaps the Direct Link thing would be OK. However, you don't get the actual VCI like you do with a TTS or PV or SEPST, all you get is a USB key that is locked to your ECM. The other box that's required is owned by the folks who do the tuning. So you will want to know who else will be able to work with your tune besides the folks who sold it to you. As long as you have that USB key, in theory any Direct Link equipped tuner can use that key plus his box to change your tune or do a new one. You will be required to buy the USB key, plus pay for the tune. I have no idea what they charge for the key, but it's likely to be slightly less than buying the TTS/PV/etc. systems. Otherwise, I can't see how they could claim an advantage with their system.

I'm betting we have some folks on this site who do tuning and who are set up with the Direct Link system. Hopefully they will give you an honest appraisal of the pro's and con's.

Jerry

tdkkart · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2015, 05:33:38 PM »

A business, or a private person for that matter, can do this now with a Power Vision tuner.
Buy a PV tuner yourself, and then for $199 you can buy "licenses" for as many bikes a you want to tune, online, in just a few minutes.
So yes, if you have a dyno and a shingle to hang over the door of your building, you can be a "tuner" with just one PV unit and a computer. Charge $199 for a license and dyno time by the hour.

CVOStreetglide · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:29:07 PM »

Here you go.....

http://technoresearch.com/sitetest/Products-DirectLink.html

FWIW: Rosa's Cycles in New York moved to this solution from the TTS.

Regards

Jerry

Unbalanced · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2015, 10:02:57 PM »

Eddfive owns the DynoDifference down in Texas and he uses this software and the others out there to tune the HD ecms. Hopefully he will chime in on this thread as he tunes with many of the different ECM tuning software available.

http://www.thedynodifference.com/

Masterblaster · « **Reply #7 on:** August 08, 2015, 09:01:29 AM »

Ed is the best tuner I ever used, for my last 4 Harley's, until I moved to Texas this year I would ride to his shop from Miami just for a tune. He is giving me advice to go to direct link this time and thats what I will do with my, new as of yesterday, CVO Ultra. He is a good guy to talk to before doing mods to see what combos he has seen work the best.

Quote from: Unbalanced on August 07, 2015, 10:02:57 PM

Eddfive owns the DynoDifference down in Texas and he uses this software and the others out there to tune the HD ecms. Hopefully he will chime in on this thread as he tunes with many of the different ECM tuning software available.

http://www.thedynodifference.com/

Beak Boater · « **Reply #8 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:31:50 AM »

Quote from: Masterblaster on August 08, 2015, 09:01:29 AM

Ed is the best tuner I ever used, for my last 4 Harley's, until I moved to Texas this year I would ride to his shop from Miami just for a tune. He is giving me advice to go to direct link this time and thats what I will do with my, new as of yesterday, CVO Ultra. He is a good guy to talk to before doing mods to see what combos he has seen work the best.

That's a long ride for a tune when Doc's Performance is in Clermont Fl.(lol) But everyone has their own favorite tuner.

CVOStreetglide · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2015, 02:51:48 PM »

Quote from: Beak Boater on August 08, 2015, 11:31:50 AM

That's a long ride for a tune when Doc's Performance is in Clermont Fl.(lol) But everyone has their own favorite tuner.

+10

East Coast · « **Reply #10 on:** August 09, 2015, 08:45:35 PM »

My bike was tuned using the Direct Link. The USB key which is linked to my ECM cost me $350 bucks. Understand with this tuning software the owner cannot access or make any changes to the tune without the VCI which is very expensive. If you need the tune tweaked or should have a tuning issue back to the tuner you go.

mjb765 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 09, 2015, 08:48:23 PM »

Quote from: East Coast on August 09, 2015, 08:45:35 PM

My bike was tuned using the Direct Link. The USB key which is linked to my ECM cost me $350 bucks. Understand with this tuning software the owner cannot access or make any changes to the tune without the VCI which is very expensive. If you need the tune tweaked or should have a tuning issue back to the tuner you go.

Rosa's?

East Coast · « **Reply #12 on:** August 09, 2015, 08:58:55 PM »

grc · « **Reply #13 on:** August 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PM »

Quote from: East Coast on August 09, 2015, 08:45:35 PM

My bike was tuned using the Direct Link. The USB key which is linked to my ECM cost me $350 bucks. Understand with this tuning software the owner cannot access or make any changes to the tune without the VCI which is very expensive. If you need the tune tweaked or should have a tuning issue back to the tuner you go.

To me that is a huge negative to this system versus something like a TTS or PV. You're paying almost as much for a USB key as you would pay for one of the other systems that give you complete control. I sure hope the people who use this are fully satisfied with the tune and the guy doing the tune, because unless you have other good tuners within reasonable distance that use DL, the guy doing this tune can hold you hostage. No Thanks!

Jerry

tdkkart · « **Reply #14 on:** August 09, 2015, 10:52:52 PM »

Quote from: grc on August 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PM

To me that is a huge negative to this system versus something like a TTS or PV. You're paying almost as much for a USB key as you would pay for one of the other systems that give you complete control. I sure hope the people who use this are fully satisfied with the tune and the guy doing the tune, because unless you have other good tuners within reasonable distance that use DL, the guy doing this tune can hold you hostage. No Thanks!Jerry

Agreed, might as well be tied to the stealer by a cord........

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