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[cudacurlee]

I've been trying to find time to read thru the entire saga for the 117 upgrade.... took today off work so I can get parts, but have a slew of questions... has anyone thrown this kit in a full dresser? My 110 did not like the Vegas heat, are there adherent issues with this upgrade and heat? I was going to stick with the stock cams, and I've already updated the cam bearings and the Feuling oil pump upgrade. I'm about to walk out the door to go see MOCO and was trying to arm myself with a little knowledge, but I only made it to page 56 of this thread...

[HD Street Performance]

No heat problems if you have head fans, a proper tune and compression that is reasonable corrected fo cam. The 117 can run cooler than stock.

[cudacurlee]

I believe the tune may have been my issue. its always run hot and when it cracked the jug, it was only 85 degrees. melted my throttle wires and boiled out my clutch oil. Anyone put the kit on an ultra?

[Eddie Haskell]

 Plenty of these kits on baggers, READ THIS THREAD
 

[CHH_Badkarma]

Tune, oil cooler (oil bud or equivalent) and you should be fine even where you live

[cudacurlee]

been sifting thru the threads for two days now... great info on here. seen a lot of breakouts from NY and PA, one in Florida, not so much Vegas or AZ. Might all be for nothing, seems I cant get the $$ to upgrade

[stratplexi]

Gents, read the entire thread and it seems the consensus is the 259 cam would prefer a little more compression than 9.9 the 117 kit provides. Also, seems as though the SE lifters may be suspect.  My 2014 CVO Road King goes into the dealer this Friday for a set of apes and I am on the fence on doing the 117. I already have a race tuner, fulsac 2.25” baffles and i have cut the cat out of the stock headpipe. Bike is strong but would like to have more if I dont sacrifice reliabilty or low end torque. While I ride local, i also tour on this bike. Wife and I take trips with the bike fully loaded and need reliability. I am considering doing the 117 kit but swapping out the head gaskets for .030 cometics to bump compression to 10:1 or 10.1:1. Also would go S&S premium lifters instead of kit lifters. Finally, would consider going to a 2” baffle instead of the 2.25” that I currently have to pick up more low end torque. Please let me know your thoughts on these changes to the kit and whether or not this is a good approach to mitigating the weaknesses in the kit and satisfying my goals. My dealer is doing a special through the end of Feb. with 20% off any parts they install and the labor and dyno tune is $1200. Seems like a great deal to me.
Thanks!

[Yellow09SERG]

Gents, read the entire thread and it seems the consensus is the 259 cam would prefer a little more compression than 9.9 the 117 kit provides. Also, seems as though the SE lifters may be suspect.  My 2014 CVO Road King goes into the dealer this Friday for a set of apes and I am on the fence on doing the 117. I already have a race tuner, fulsac 2.25” baffles and i have cut the cat out of the stock headpipe. Bike is strong but would like to have more if I dont sacrifice reliabilty or low end torque. While I ride local, i also tour on this bike. Wife and I take trips with the bike fully loaded and need reliability. I am considering doing the 117 kit but swapping out the head gaskets for .030 cometics to bump compression to 10:1 or 10.1:1. Also would go S&S premium lifters instead of kit lifters. Finally, would consider going to a 2” baffle instead of the 2.25” that I currently have to pick up more low end torque. Please let me know your thoughts on these changes to the kit and whether or not this is a good approach to mitigating the weaknesses in the kit and satisfying my goals. My dealer is doing a special through the end of Feb. with 20% off any parts they install and the labor and dyno tune is $1200. Seems like a great deal to me.
Thanks!

For what I am reading in your post you really might prefer the SE585. It plays well with only a .030 head gasket change. It may not produce the big hp numbers that some show, but the torque curve that you use to ride will more than make up for the missing ponys

[HD Street Performance]

The shape of the curve will be strongly influenced by the pipe.

[abolen]

That sounds close to what I got on my FatboyS. 118hp and 127 torque.  I did not do anything with the heads. That bike comes with CVO heads and the Harley shop told me no need to change them. I still wonder if I should have some head work done. The Harley shop dyno guy was horrible and only got 110 hp and 110 torque. I had to take it to an aftermarket shop to get it straightened out.

[HD Street Performance]

That result is slightly generous with an STD VS SAE correction. Another pipe example. That torque dip could be cured at the bottom. Headwork will add 7-10hp with that same combination. The pipe changed will add more and change the shape of the curve to come on sooner and add more torque overall under the curve.

[Yellow09SERG]

That sounds close to what I got on my FatboyS. 118hp and 127 torque.  I did not do anything with the heads. That bike comes with CVO heads and the Harley shop told me no need to change them. I still wonder if I should have some head work done. The Harley shop dyno guy was horrible and only got 110 hp and 110 torque. I had to take it to an aftermarket shop to get it straightened out.

Is that the 585 or the 259? Peak numbers don't look bad even STD vs SAE, and the dip may not be a bother to you with the lighter weight of the Fatboy, but from what I read from stratplex he is bagger and running 2up, touring. Being below 100 from 2500 to 3000 is the place where that motor will spend its life. As Don said, if that dip is bothering you a pipe change might really help that as well as peak numbers to some degree. Either way enjoy your build, your the only one it has to please. 

[stratplexi]

For what I am reading in your post you really might prefer the SE585. It plays well with only a .030 head gasket change. It may not produce the big hp numbers that some show, but the torque curve that you use to ride will more than make up for the missing ponys

Thanks for feedback. Would the 585 need the 58 mm throttle body or would stock CVO throttle body be ok. Thanks

[Yellow09SERG]

Thanks for feedback. Would the 585 need the 58 mm throttle body or would stock CVO throttle body be ok. Thanks

I couldn't give you a fact based answer on that one. I am running a 58 and all the guys that I know are running the 58's so have no honest answer for you

[stratplexi]

I couldn't give you a fact based answer on that one. I am running a 58 and all the guys that I know are running the 58's so have no honest answer for you

Many thanks...will talk to the mechanic before making final decision. I just dont want to leave any tq. on the table between 2000-3000 RPMs. Thats in the sweet spot on the super slab. Thx